Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[scaredyclassic]

wjich is kind of an honor.

[svelte]

[quote=njtosd] Why can’t we find candidates who haven’t made suspicious amounts of money in real estate (or trading cattle), who don’t say racist things or stupid things like “I short circuited” and who don’t set my teeth on edge. I am hoping someday for a candidate that I am excited about . . .[/quote]

We do get good candidates sometimes. Problem is there are plenty of people like this that get to help pick our candidates:

Watch these Trump supporters agree that putting shock collars on Mexicans is a great idea

We could make a similar video on idiot Democrats too.

I’m not sure what the solution is. Education is a part of it, but no matter how many classes you send some folks too, they’re still going to be a few eggs short of a dozen.

[scaredyclassic]

50 perc of the country is in the bottom half of the class

[njtosd]

[quote=scaredyclassic]trump is literally the biggest douchebag ever in the history of mankind.[/quote]

Ok, I’ll admit it. I saw Sausage Party and one of the characters was, literally, a douche. Now I see a little animated character in my head when you say that.

[njtosd]

[quote=svelte][quote=njtosd] Why can’t we find candidates who haven’t made suspicious amounts of money in real estate (or trading cattle), who don’t say racist things or stupid things like “I short circuited” and who don’t set my teeth on edge. I am hoping someday for a candidate that I am excited about . . .[/quote]

We do get good candidates sometimes. Problem is there are plenty of people like this that get to help pick our candidates:

Watch these Trump supporters agree that putting shock collars on Mexicans is a great idea

We could make a similar video on idiot Democrats too.

I’m not sure what the solution is. Education is a part of it, but no matter how many classes you send some folks too, they’re still going to be a few eggs short of a dozen.[/quote]

This gets back to my point above. These are 5-6 of the million little Hitlers. There is no way the Republican Party had enough influence to create those people. There are LOTS of them and Trump is what they want.

What I found interesting outside of the obvious was (1) they liked the fact that he wasn’t a typical politician, and (2) they saw it as an opportunity for “change” ( much like Obamas campaign). As I said, Americans don’t like what the establishment is offering.

And scaredy is right – no matter how much you educate people, we have a lot of Americans who are idiots. And their votes count. You don’t need that video – there are all kinds of examples of man on the street quizzes where random people say New England is a state or who don’t know where Canada is on a map.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=njtosd]

This gets back to my point above. These are 5-6 of the million little Hitlers. There is no way the Republican Party had enough influence to create those people. There are LOTS of them and Trump is what they want.
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The Republicans party embraced the little Hitlers and enabled them by talking to them in code for decades. Those Hitlers used to in the Democratic Party which disavowed them before they moved over to the GOP.

Don’t you think that Sarah Palin enabled them to go mainstream in the GOP? She elevated the culture of the ignorants.

[njtosd]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=njtosd]

This gets back to my point above. These are 5-6 of the million little Hitlers. There is no way the Republican Party had enough influence to create those people. There are LOTS of them and Trump is what they want.
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The Republicans party embraced the little Hitlers and enabled them by talking to them in code for decades. Those Hitlers used to in the Democratic Party which disavowed them before they moved over to the GOP.

Don’t you think that Sarah Palin enabled them to go mainstream in the GOP? She elevated the culture of the ignorants.[/quote]

I know of a pharmaceutical company who had a Viagra-like compound long before Viagra. The marketing people didn’t think it would sell …. Pfizer clearly proved them wrong. Marketing types (such as political parties) often get this stuff wrong. They view the US through a their own lenses. There are a lot of people In this country that are not interesting to the media, they are not popularized through the media and they have a different viewpoint. They may well have related to Sarah Palin (although she is no more stupid than Biden). In my opinion, like Jed Clampett, Trump has stumbled update upon an oil well.

[Anonymous]

Biden has has one of the most impressive resumes in politics today. The guy has accomplished a lot.

If he did it all while being as stupid as Sarah Palin, I’m even more impressed.

[bearishgurl]

This thread is ridiculous. Why doesn’t someone create a thread entitled, “Reasons I cannot vote for HRC?”

Ahem …. for the record, “Trump supporters” are neither “stupid,” “racist,” “bigoted,” “little Hitlers,” “uneducated” or “low-information voters.”

They are of every race, every age and every educational level. I know this to be a fact amongst people in my “sphere” here in SD County. That “sphere” includes people from “professionals” on down thru the ranks.

And they (OR myself, for that matter) have never been “afraid of competing” for jobs we are qualified for. However, no US resident can compete with the typical $2.20 hr manufacturing wage in MX (in US currency) or a $7-8K year manufacturing wage in China (for 52 – 50+ hr workweeks??). OR with job applicants living in MX and working in SD every day but commanding a lesser wage for the same work …. because they can survive on it and we can’t.

Everyone is free to believe all the crap that spews out of the MSM all day every day. It’s a free country. However, we all know that the “fat lady” still hasn’t even stepped onstage, yet.

I am beyond disgusted seeing repeated posts here from Piggs commiserating with each other on how “dumb” and “crazy” 1/3 to 1/2 (or more) of the US electorate is for supporting Trump and simultaneously “patting each other on the back” for supporting HRC. It’s insulting and also shows their attempts at constantly seeking validation for their own beliefs (a bit of insecurity on their part, perhaps?)

FlyerInHI/brian, are you listening??

I didn’t realize this forum was “partisan” but to the naked eye it has clearly appeared so as of late.

It would be more helpful to readers if posters would just stick to the important issues at stake in this presidential election and dump the “presidential personality contest.” Hillary can’t win that one, either :=0

[njtosd]

[quote=harvey]Biden has has one of the most impressive resumes in politics today. The guy has accomplished a lot.

If he did it all while being as stupid as Sarah Palin, I’m even more impressed.[/quote]

Biden: not too bright, admitted plagiarist, prevaricator about his academic record and slanderer:

http://mentalfloss.com/article/28826/9-presidential-candidates-who-werent-great-students

In addition, he baselessly accused the truck driver involved in the crash that killed his wife and daughter of doing so while intoxicated (accusing him of “drinking his lunch”). In fact, the truck driver was found to have been faultless in the crash, no alcohol involved and there was no basis for a prosecution – http://www.cbsnews.com/news/driver-in-biden-crash-wanted-name-cleared/

Before you say he made as mistake, Biden is an attorney and knows the rules about slander. He’s an embarrassment no matter how you slice it.

As I’ve said to Brian, simply identifying as one party or the other doesn’t make someone good or bad. Obama doesn’t seem to love him, but you do, so you must have the inside track :). Favorite Biden quote from 2007:

In the article published Wednesday, Biden is quoted evaluating presidential rivals Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, former Sen. John Edwards, D-North Carolina, and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois. His remarks about Obama, the only African-American serving in the Senate, drew the most scrutiny.

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

Of course, there was significant backlash over those words and he backpedaled mightily : http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama/

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=bearishgurl]It would be more helpful to readers if posters would just stick to the important issues at stake in this presidential election and dump the “presidential personality contest.” [/quote]

Idunno, when a presidential candidate is an obviously deranged aspiring fascist who literally cannot even spell… I guess I see that as important.

BTW… me a few weeks ago in a comment to you:

[quote=Rich Toscano]And I’ll admit to some personal bias here, but it doesn’t help that so many of your novel-length comments these days are impassioned defenses of that goose-stepping canned ham who you inexplicably think would be a good president.
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And your reply:

[quote=bearishgurl]Well, Rich, I actually haven’t commented on why anyone would make a good president so I don’t know where you are seeing that.
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So is this you “not commenting” again on who would be a good president?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Rich Toscano][quote=bearishgurl]It would be more helpful to readers if posters would just stick to the important issues at stake in this presidential election and dump the “presidential personality contest.” [/quote]

Idunno, when a presidential candidate is an obviously deranged aspiring fascist who literally cannot even spell… I guess I see that as important.

BTW… me a few weeks ago in a comment to you:

[quote=Rich Toscano]And I’ll admit to some personal bias here, but it doesn’t help that so many of your novel-length comments these days are impassioned defenses of that goose-stepping canned ham who you inexplicably think would be a good president.[/quote]

And your reply:

[quote=bearishgurl]Well, Rich, I actually haven’t commented on why anyone would make a good president so I don’t know where you are seeing that.[/quote]

So is this you “not commenting” again on who would be a good president?[/quote]Rich, how are any of my posts here actually stating who would “make the best president?” Have I made such a post? Have you?

I think it is insulting to half the country to have a few posters on this forum who repeatedly call out Trump supporters as somehow dumb and deranged just to make themselves feel more “superior.”

My understanding was your forum was not partisan … and you have stated publicly here that don’t want any “left-right slapfests” (your words) carried out on it.

When a poster insults the intelligence of voters because they didn’t vote for his/her “preferred candidate,” that is the same thing in my mind.

They don’t even have to discuss the candidate themselves but instead overtly put down half the country’s electorate and it has a worse effect than attacking the candidate outright (which is to be expected).

Remember, I WAS a Dem for over 32 years when I recently re-registered as a Rep. I was a Dem activist in SD County for nearly nine years, working on several local campaigns. If anybody knows what the Dem electorate consists of (especially here in SD County), it’s me.

I can assure everyone here that Dems hail from ALL walks of life …. including and highly representative in the working class, the “2nd Amendment people,” the “welfare queens and kings” and the “uneducated,” etc.

I for one am tired of reading here that Trump supporters should all be pigeonholed all into neat little boxes which bear little resemblance to who they really are by know-nothings masquerading as Dems living their lives vicariously through their armchair amusements.

I’m certain that it’s caused several longtime posters to just abandon the forum …. or at the very least, stop posting because they can’t discuss the reasons why they will vote for Trump without being called a “bigot” or “racist.”

[svelte]

[quote=bearishgurl]
Ahem …. for the record, “Trump supporters” are neither “stupid,” “racist,” “bigoted,” “little Hitlers,” “uneducated” or “low-information voters.”

They are of every race, every age and every educational level. I know this to be a fact amongst people in my “sphere” here in SD County. That “sphere” includes people from “professionals” on down thru the ranks.
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I’m not sure I trust the judgment of someone who misuses quotation in virtually every sentence and definitely every paragraph written. Why why WHY do you take extra time to quote things that aren’t quotes? What does it possibly buy you?

Italics and bold I get – I think you overuse them, but I get it. But the quotes? Come on!

When I think of how much extra time you take to bold, quote, and italics it boggles my mind.

[quote=bearishgurl]
I didn’t realize this forum was “partisan” but to the naked eye it has clearly appeared so as of late.
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You are certainly quite partisan on here yourself, Miss Molly. Don’t go wagging that finger in anybody else’s face.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=svelte][quote=bearishgurl]
Ahem …. for the record, “Trump supporters” are neither “stupid,” “racist,” “bigoted,” “little Hitlers,” “uneducated” or “low-information voters.”

They are of every race, every age and every educational level. I know this to be a fact amongst people in my “sphere” here in SD County. That “sphere” includes people from “professionals” on down thru the ranks.
[/quote]

I’m not sure I trust the judgment of someone who misuses quotation in virtually every sentence and definitely every paragraph written. Why why WHY do you take extra time to quote things that aren’t quotes? What does it possibly buy you?

Italics and bold I get – I think you overuse them, but I get it. But the quotes? Come on!

When I think of how much extra time you take to bold, quote, and italics it boggles my mind.

[quote=bearishgurl]
I didn’t realize this forum was “partisan” but to the naked eye it has clearly appeared so as of late.
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You are certainly quite partisan on here yourself, Miss Molly. Don’t go wagging that finger in anybody else’s face.[/quote]”Partisan” (in quotes) in this case, means the forum appears to have a definite Dem leaning. That doesn’t mean that there are more Piggs on it who are planning to vote Dem in November. What it means is that most of the Piggs who regularly post here are patting each other on the back for leaning Dem and some of them have been insulting posters who stated they planned to vote R.

The quoted material in the above paragraph are direct quotes from posters on this (and other threads) on this forum when describing R voters. Don’t let my italics (used for emphasis) and occasional bold (oft used to show the part of another post I’m replying to) bother you, svelte. I type plenty fast and it is no problem for me to use italics/bold. I’ve seen other posters here who often type their entire posts in italics and no one seems to be bothered by it.

[Rich Toscano]

My only “leaning” is against your buddy Trump. It’s not because of what party he’s in, but because he’s a bullying, blatantly lying, probably psychotic halfwit.

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