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June 19, 2016 at 12:50 PM #798846June 19, 2016 at 3:39 PM #798847
SK in CV
Participant[quote=PCinSD]Again, there’s no shame in simply saying you no longer feel the quotes by FIH are racist. It’s ok. But if Trump said that same shit, you’d be screaming racism from the rooftops. You’re either a fraud, a hypocrite, or both.[/quote]
There’s no shame in simply acknowledging you’re a dick. You’ve proved it over and over in this thread. Why don’t you just admit it? You’re a dick. You know that, right?
June 19, 2016 at 4:48 PM #798850PCinSD
Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=PCinSD]Again, there’s no shame in simply saying you no longer feel the quotes by FIH are racist. It’s ok. But if Trump said that same shit, you’d be screaming racism from the rooftops. You’re either a fraud, a hypocrite, or both.[/quote]
There’s no shame in simply acknowledging you’re a dick. You’ve proved it over and over in this thread. Why don’t you just admit it? You’re a dick. You know that, right?[/quote]
LOL, you are really one butthurt dude. You may want to cry more. I can go on busting you up, hypocrite. Does this work when you argue in real life?
June 19, 2016 at 8:48 PM #798851Participant[quote=PCinSD]LOL, you are really one butthurt dude. You may want to cry more. I can go on busting you up, hypocrite. Does this work when you argue in real life?[/quote]
Is that what you fantasize about? Imagining you’re busting people up in online discussion groups? Grab a tissue dude. Your load is shot and it couldn’t even hit the screen. Trump guy, aren’t you?
June 19, 2016 at 9:51 PM #798852Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=PCinSD]LOL, you are really one butthurt dude. You may want to cry more. I can go on busting you up, hypocrite. Does this work when you argue in real life?[/quote]
Is that what you fantasize about? Imagining you’re busting people up in online discussion groups? Grab a tissue dude. Your load is shot and it couldn’t even hit the screen. Trump guy, aren’t you?[/quote]
Damn. You mad. Sorry your bff is racist.
June 19, 2016 at 10:35 PM #798853bearishgurl
ParticipantLOL! Just stop! We have here two “attorneys” here at their worst, folks … arguing for the sake of arguing … and I understand PC’s point, btw.
SK has also accused me on this forum of being a “racist” simply by virtue of my admission here that I voted for Trump in the primary. While spewing these indignities, he should be aware that I reside in one of the most diverse communities in SD County. My youngest kid, who graduated from “local” public HS two years ago, is now at a public university in East LA (the most “diverse” campus in the entire 23-campus system, btw) and I could have moved on at that point (relocated). However, I have plenty of “home equity” and am still here. Ask yourselves why, people. Could it be that I have lived in this area of SD County since August of ’86, moving here from SD metro (city proper)? For the record, that was nearly 30 years ago, folks. The truth is, I’m “comfortable” here, know well the “lay of the land” and am admittedly somewhat “territorial.”
And Mr. PC (pablo) has accused me in the past here of not hearing in SD domestic courtrooms what I have personally witnessed and heard with my own ears coming out of (female) judge’s mouths.
It’s all okay and I hold nothing against either of you. But bear in mind that I have as long of a memory (or longer) than both of you, combined :=0 And you can’t take that away from me. SK, you need to chill and not automatically assume that anyone who wants to vote for Trump is a “racist.” It’s not what you think … not by a long shot.
If I was a “racist,” I would have defected to an area of the state or region of the country where more of my own “peeps” reside the day after my youngest kid graduated from HS (and I am of mixed heritage, btw). Um, but … alas, I haven’t. What does that tell you? And no, I do not have a drop of Hispanic blood in my body. But here I am! I’m down here in SD South County groveling with “Hispanics” (full, half, 1/4, who cares?) and others (Filipinos) who are beyond disgusted with the routine of the local “illegal immigrant” or simply “daily-border-crossers” successfully availing themselves of US benefits played out over the last 2+ decades and wouldn’t mind seeing a nice, tall (preferably brick or block) wall built at the border … all the way to the ground, where northbound humans can’t slip under it every.single.day. like they are at present.
I know this might be a stretch for some folks (SK?) to believe around here, but not everyone who votes for Trump is a “racist.” Nor is Trump a racist. Far from it. He’s trying to have conversations with the American public and the press re: the detrimental effect that illegal immigration has on the states and the country but some people don’t want to listen. This group can selectively not listen to him or put in earplugs, for all I care. He’s trying to have conversations re: the role some of the immigrants allowed into this country played who adhere to the Muslim religion who are terrorists-in-the-making or would-be-terrorists (if a little something happens in the US that goes against their “grain”). He is absolutely in the right to question why we are allowing into the country all these people who can offer us nothing except their presence, especially since all other countries in the world do not allow into their countries even one-tenth of the immigrants the US allows in. And for what? What do all these groups DO for us Americans? Would the Piggs expect to be welcomed with open arms into another country with a path to “citizenship” whilst collecting cash, food and medical aid from that country (or charities from that country)? Ummm, I think not!
The US is not a “dumping ground” for all the (disenfranchised) people from other countries who want to permanently live here. ESPecially if they don’t have the means to do so and/or (secretly) want to emigrate to the US solely to spread their (incompatible, non-western) religious beliefs and customs to Americans and also onto their own offspring, later born in the US (ex: delusional father of recent Orlando shooter). Our country can’t even properly take care of its own. Thus, we have no business trying to save other countries from themselves, IMO. Trump has the b@lls to discuss what no other presidential candidate has addressed before while campaigning. It NEEDS to be addressed and I, for one, am glad he has brought up these issues. Illegal immigration has (fiscally) broken the State of CA in many prior Junes (end of the state’s fiscal year) and will continue to do so. The cost of having this group in our country is enormous and growing and impacts the ability of the states and the country to repair/replace its badly worn infrastructure, among its addressing its many other pressing domestic issues …. ALL of which require BILLIONS to fix!
Trump has been asking very valid questions that have needed to be addressed for decades and the “Hillary supporters” (who want to maintain the status quo) are shooting the messenger by insinuating that everyone who wants to discuss these valid concerns are “racists.” Of course, that is their perogative. It’s a free country and thus, they can vote for Hillary. And Trump supporters can certainly vote for Trump.
No one is a “racist” here.
June 19, 2016 at 10:41 PM #798854spdrun
ParticipantBorders are artificial and arbitrary. Why does someone have more right to live in a given place if they were born there, vs not being born there?
Plenty of native-born Americans contribute little to society, some are even criminals, but they luck happened to win the lucky sperm/ovum jackpot by being born on US soil. Thus they can be here by default.
Why should one feel closer to people who just accidentally happened to be born in an area controlled by the same government? It seems like a pretty daft way to pick whom you feel a commonality with or closeness to.
Maybe I’m just not wired to feel nationalism and patriotism.
June 19, 2016 at 11:07 PM #798855Participant[quote=spdrun]Borders are artificial and arbitrary. Why does someone have more right to live in a given place if they were born there, vs not being born there?
Plenty of native-born Americans contribute little to society, some are even criminals, but they luck happened to win the lucky sperm/ovum jackpot by being born on US soil. Thus they can be here by default.
Why should one feel closer to people who just accidentally happened to be born in an area controlled by the same government? It seems like a pretty daft way to pick whom you feel a commonality with or closeness to.
Maybe I’m just not wired to feel nationalism and patriotism.[/quote]spd, it is impossible for any one country to take care of everyone else in the world who wants to come to that country. The reason so many Americans are out of work is because their (prior) jobs were “outsourced” to countries with much cheaper labor.
Regardless of how you feel about native-born Americans currently collecting cash aid, I can tell you that the vast majority of these recipients don’t really want to (and deeply resent “big-brother” minding their personal business for them, in doing so). They want a JOB paying a living wage. Or the equivalent to TWO or more JOBS held by family members in one family residing together to pay enough for them to reside together. So many of those living-wage jobs in smaller cities and towns across America (and even large cities, such as Detroit) have been “outsourced” in recent decades to cheap labor in other countries.
This does NOTHING for Americans’ earning potential or their way of life.
I personally have a problem with Chinese factories who have made money hand over fist manufacturing “engineered” or “laminate hardwood floors” for YEARS for giant US retailer Lumber Liquidators using (toxic) formaldehyde in the process. That’s disgusting and never would have happened had the flooring been manufactured inside the borders of the US.
June 19, 2016 at 11:11 PM #798856ParticipantI repeat, the US does NOT OWE other countries’ would-be ex-pats ANYTHING! We don’t OWE their people residency … or citizenship … or ANYthing!
We don’t owe would-be immigrants to the US jack sh!t!
June 19, 2016 at 11:32 PM #798857Participant[quote=spdrun] . . . Maybe I’m just not wired to feel nationalism and patriotism.[/quote]Yes, I am an (admitted) US “Nativist.” I have been stopped at dozens of (continually moving) east-west “border checkpoints” NUMEROUS times within the US in my (interstate) travels and had my trunk and trailer searched by US Border Patrol as well as dogs sniffing around my tires every.single.time. I pass thru their (moving) checkpoints 2-4x year. And I have never carried drugs (or ingredients to “make” drugs) or tried to smuggle any “illegal immigrants” in my trunk into the country! G@ddammit, I’m an American … with proper ID … traveling on a east/west interstate in MY OWN COUNTRY! I should not have to put up with this NONsense! It is BULLsh!t! And what for? Because we have illegal immigrants pouring into the country (just like Trump discusses), many with heroin, meth (or the ingredients to manufacture meth) hidden in their vehicles.
Why should I have to pay the penalty?? I, as a native American citizen, should be allowed to travel freely within my OWN COUNTRY! Does anybody here object to that??
June 19, 2016 at 11:40 PM #798858ParticipantThe reason so many Americans are out of work is because their (prior) jobs were “outsourced” to countries with much cheaper labor.
Outsourcing and immigration are separate issues.
I personally have a problem with Chinese factories who have made money hand over fist manufacturing “engineered” or “laminate hardwood floors” for YEARS for giant US retailer Lumber Liquidators using (toxic) formaldehyde in the process. That’s disgusting and never would have happened had the flooring been manufactured inside the borders of the US.
US firms have never done harm?
Ever heard of the Michigan PBB incident?
How about the Macondo oil spill?
Or formaldehyde in good ‘ol US-made plywood in the 80s?June 19, 2016 at 11:50 PM #798859ParticipantWhy should I have to pay the penalty?? I, as a native American citizen, should be allowed to travel freely within my OWN COUNTRY! Does anybody here object to that??
I agree. Shut down the checkpoints: they’re un-American. Legalize most drugs. Let non-functional addicts either get treatment or croak, their choice. The lives of trashy people who are stupid enough to get hooked on hard drugs are not worth the cost of the “War on Some Drugs” nor the destruction of civil liberties that it entails.
But do you really believe for a moment that Trump will shut down the checkpoints? He’s shown his true colors (authoritarian piece of dogshit) on many occasions. He’s also a cop-hugger. You think he’d be willing to put Federal cops out of work by making their work redundant?
If so, I have a bridge to sell you.
June 20, 2016 at 2:14 AM #798861FlyerInHi
GuestThe road stops have nothing to with unauthorized immigrants. They have to do with drug running to flyover country where drug abuse is booming. The dealers go where demand is. Cops can also confiscate and keep money they find on people and in cars.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/asset-seizures/BG, If you drive a new car, you have much less chance of getting stopped. The police target old cars like your old Lexus. Your want profiling the Trump way? You got a taste of it.
BTW, unauthorized immigrants are not pouring into the country as net migration from Mexico is down. And Syrian refugees are not coming in tremendous numbers — just a few thousands so far. Trump lies so much and you believe him.
Canada, Germany, Sweden accepted many more refugees. We should do much more commensurate with the size of our population.
June 20, 2016 at 6:23 AM #798863carli
ParticipantBG, do you realize how out-of-touch your comment is, about being afraid of immigrants who “want to emigrate to the US solely to spread their (incompatible, non-western) religious beliefs and customs to Americans and also onto their own offspring, later born in the US”??
Um, wasn’t that what our country was founded on? Freedom of religion and all that?
If they weren’t so frightening, comments like yours (mimicking Trump’s) would be truly comical.
Of course our country needs to guard against terrorists, but that does not extend to keeping out people of “incompatible non-western religious beliefs.” And please, do tell, what are those religious beliefs that are incompatible with those of us in the U.S.??
And you wonder why people consider you ignorant and racist.
June 20, 2016 at 6:29 AM #798864
CoronitaParticipant[quote=carli]BG, do you realize how out-of-touch your comment is, about being afraid of immigrants who “want to emigrate to the US solely to spread their (incompatible, non-western) religious beliefs and customs to Americans and also onto their own offspring, later born in the US”??
Um, wasn’t that what our country was founded on? Freedom of religion and all that?
If they weren’t so frightening, comments like yours (mimicking Trump’s) would be truly comical.
Of course our country needs to guard against terrorists, but that does not extend to keeping out people of “incompatible non-western religious beliefs.” And please, do tell, what are those religious beliefs that are incompatible with those of us in the U.S.??
And you wonder why people consider you ignorant and racist.[/quote]
For me, I would be slightly terrified if the majority of the Americans are like BG. But, frankly I have faith there are more people in this country are more like my neighbors and people like you Carli. I just need to be reminded of that every so often. Thanks.
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