Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[FlyerInHi]

BG, I read your trump comment on the other thread.

What do you mean by unsustainable ideology. On the republican side? How will
Trump change it?

[Coronita]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Dukehorn]When bearishgurl speaks, I think of this:

As a lifelong citizen of the US I am beyond embarrassed by the protesters out in force against our good governor, George Wallace. In my travels across the country, people have always said that the good people of Alabama are very genteel and kind, and what has happened these past few weeks makes our state look so chaotic and ill-served especially trying to negotiate pass those Negros out on the streets disturbing the peace with their anti-segregation talk. WTF? Why a black woman going to white school. What is the world coming to?

This whole sordid mess plays into what Wallace was saying “In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.”!! That’s the truth!!

Black, Muslims and Hispanics need to understand the message and accept it peacefully. Good lord, disturbing the peace and forcing our policemen to actually use their dogs. Poor things… It’s all so disgusting.

And “good riddance” to those other folks who think otherwise I hope they die in an earthquake or during the end of times.. Bunch of crazy hippies and liberals. Now we have to spend tax dollars to control these heathens and minorities. It is utterly ridiculous.” Stupid healthcare. Utterly ridiculous. Food stamps. Utterly ridiculous. This country’s gone to @#$@, only white people who contribute should vote.[/quote]Ummm, Dukehorn, your “creative” rant here has absolutely nothing to do with what I said in my post. It is quite telling though about YOU and YOUR mindset … the way you slanted it.

Why don’t you consider getting out on the road this summer and “exploring this great country of ours?” You might learn a few things in the process.[/quote]

He could, but with Trump as president, chances are, they’ll ask to see his papers. Because he’s not white.

[FlyerInHi]

It’s well known that minority men driving older cars cross country will get stopped by local police looking for drugs and to confiscate cash, especially with CA plates

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/25/how-oklahoma-cops-took-53000-from-a-burmese-christian-band-a-church-in-omaha-and-an-orphanage-in-thailand/

[Hobie]

Thanks for the tip Brian. I’m going to buy a Prius and drive without worry. Dang profiling.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]It’s well known that minority men driving older cars cross country will get stopped by local police looking for drugs and to confiscate cash, especially with CA plates[/quote]This is just one (of many) reasons why this country needs a “tall, beautiful wall” on it’s southern int’l border. I myself have traveled the I-8/I-10 east-west routes many times and have been stopped each and every time (1-3 stops per direction) since 9/11/01 by border patrol and customs agents looking for drugs. I ALWAYS travel with documents and have never been pulled into “secondary” but have had my trunk searched, my trailer searched and each and every time have had my tires/wheels sniffed out by dogs and have even been asked for ID/docs a few times. I have also (repeatedly) been asked, “What’s your nationality?” and “Where are you headed?” (eastbound lanes, only). And I’m an American, born in the US! I feel that by being required to submit to this treatment (and delays), my right to freely travel in my own country is being hampered and that these measures the Federal Govm’t is taking on roads NOT entering/leaving MX may actually be unconstitutional.

I don’t think “CA plates” or “older vehicles” have anything to do with it (MX plates, yes). I think a bit of “profiling” IS used by these border patrol agents (i.e., the “driving while brown” syndrome). But, in my experience, the private vehicles they are most interested in are windowless vans, cars with large trunks (esp trunks which give the appearance of being “weighted down”), pickups with locking tonneau covers, towed covered boats and towed closed trailers. I’ve even seen a group of Japanese tourists in a large rented luxury sedan (from LAX?) get pulled into secondary on I-8 in AZ!

I don’t understand why the border patrol’s “makeshift moving highway stops” are not set up on the dusty roads leading to/from MX instead of the (eastbound/westbound) interstates. It makes no sense to me.

[Coronita]

After reading this thread again, I am convinced once people get above a certain age like 50ish+, some people exhibit having a few screws loose and could arguably be qualified as certified nuts.

Old age probably brings out the wacko conservatism in people. Not all conservatism is bad. But some of this stuff is just way out in bumpkinville, along the lines of lizards and too many walls. Just saying.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu]After reading this thread again, I am convinced once people get above a certain age like 50ish+, some people exhibit having a few screws loose and could arguably be qualified as certified nuts.

Old age probably brings out the wacko conservatism in people. Not all conservatism is bad. But some of this stuff is just way out in bumpkinville, along the lines of lizards and too many walls. Just saying.[/quote]flu, you’re undoubtedly headed in that direction and I hope everything works out for you between now and then and you can “retire” with no worries. Some of the comments you’ve posted here re: discrimination of everyone who is not “white” is not only wa-a-a-ay off the mark but can be construed by a relatively sane reader to be just a wee bit on the “nutty” side :=0

Why don’t YOU try this little experiment. Get out on the open road this summer, make hotel reservations somewhere along I-10 in AZ or NM and observe how you’re “treated” by the PTB at their “makeshift traffic stops.” Then come back and report to the Piggs.

Oh… and don’t forget your traveling docs to travel in your OWN country!

[FlyerInHi]

BG, it’s not just border patrol stopping people. It’s local police who stop people because federal law since 9/11 allow the police to stop travelers and confiscate cash. The cash doesn’t need to the returned even is the defendant/victim is not convicted. It’s a revenue thing for small town police and there is a cottage industry of private consultants advising law enforcement.

I know a gambler who routinely carries $50,000 or more between CA and Nevada. I told him to be very careful while driving.

[Coronita]

Convenient how no Canadian will ever get stopped crossing a state border in the u.s., even if they happened to enter illegally.

Well, at least not the light skinned colored ones.

[svelte]

[quote=flu]After reading this thread again, I am convinced once people get above a certain age like 50ish+, some people exhibit having a few screws loose and could arguably be qualified as certified nuts.
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I think a couple of signs of that are “use” of phantom quotes when they are actually quoting no one and bold text to inject emphasis.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, I read your trump comment on the other thread.

What do you mean by unsustainable ideology. On the republican side? How will
Trump change it?[/quote]No. On the dem side. As a nearly lifelong dem, it seems all the (taxpayer-funded) programs that were created in the past decade or so have done nothing but created a sense of “victimhood” among many Americans who made poor decisions in their lives. However, I don’t blame Obama entirely (I actually voted for him twice). I primarily blame the Dem-controlled Congress of his first 4 years in office.

Examples: HAMP, HARP, bank bailouts (enabling “short sales” which let the defaulting borrower keep the assets [ie vehicles] which they bought with the $$ from their defaulted-upon mortgage), “foreclosure moratorium” legislation, healthplan subsidies, “stimulus payments” (in the form of tax refunds) and later, all the various Federal student loan “repayment plans” (on the slow-motion train, while SL borrowers owing $75K to $250K created families, shopped ’til they dropped and generally lived above their means, claiming a “high debt level”). This includes the Federal REPAYE plan, signed into law by President Obama (with potential “loan forgiveness” in the end):

see: https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/about/announcements/repaye

I just have a few questions about who is actually “deserving” of this largesse and how it is all adding to our country’s huge deficit.

Why should a family who couldn’t even remotely qualify for their mortgages/cash-out refis/HELOCs under “normal” criteria in 2006 still be able to reside in the same home today which they are financing with a 40-year “mod” set at an artificially-low, fixed interest rate of ~2% (with possible “loan forgiveness” now or in the future)! What gives THEM the right to park their Mercedes in the driveway (which they purchased with their ill-gotten “home equity” obtained on a mortgage against “their” home which they quickly defaulted upon)? And why is this so when that home is still, to this day, wa-a-ay out of their league, considering that their income today isn’t much more (or is actually less) than it was when they took out their ill-fated mortgage? Many in this group actually consider themselves “victims of the `foreclosure crisis'” because they were in danger of losing their homes!! Whose fault was that? There are still a LOT of these home”owners” around!

Then we have millions of “former students” who have been working in the profession they majored in in college for one to even three decades who have repeatedly consolidated their loans and even defaulted on them, yet own luxury vehicles and real estate and had kids all the while paying little or nothing on their student debt. Now they’re crying “victim” because their student loan creditors and Sallie Mae are hounding them and attempting garnishments on their salaries with thousands in interest and penalties added to their (now aged) debt. Um, what did they expect? Some of these student debtors (who obtained a degree in middle age) are now 50-65 years old! Why does THIS group believe they are somehow “exempt” from paying for their education while others paid as they went thru college or paid off their student loans as soon as possible after graduation? Why is it everyone else’s fault that many of these SL debtors can’t get good jobs because they majored in the “wrong field” or didn’t finish college? And if they couldn’t “afford” an expensive, private school, why did they choose to attend one??

And being a gubment “retiree,” I’ve seen the absolutely devastating effects of the “illegal alien” problem up-close and personal in CA for the past 3+ decades. Since this group is “assisted” by state govm’t thru primarily “unfunded mandates,” their presence has been driving our hospitals, cities, counties and state coffers into the ground. I’m well aware that a very large percentage of our state prison inmates happen to be “illegal aliens,” costing CA a fortune to feed and house. I am also of the (correct) belief that they are taking up many thousands of public school seats (in SD and Imperial Counties) as well as thousands of seats in CA CC’s (hundreds of seats in CA’s public universities). Their tuition is mostly ALL paid for by CA and Federal taxpayers whose OWN children could be denied attendance/admission at same schools and institutions due to “impaction.”

I’ve tried to assist a lot of people over the years (in an effort to help them recover from their stupidity) and have heard so many “victim” stories that I’ve become immune to it. It seems a significant portion of the able-bodied adult population today considers themselves a “victim” of some sort who needs a “bailout” because the MSM (and the internet) are constantly hawking various forms of gubment “bailouts” to Joe and Jane 6p. I think this pervasive “victim” culture was brought on by the existence of the “bailout programs” invented and administered by the Federal Govm’t under a Dem-controlled Congress and presidency.

Yeah, I feel Trump (with the help of “experts” in the field) can reform a lot of the US Homeland security policies and procedures and also successfully repeal/replace the ACA (although this may take a little longer). I feel he will also bring back a significant amount of living-wage jobs to US soil which will eventually lift all boats and rid us of this pervasive sense of “victimhood” among America’s able-bodied adults.

He’s the only candidate willing to tackle these thorny issues. I actually AM a Dem at heart but feel that the Dem-controlled Congress in combination with a Dem president has royally screwed up a lot of things for honest American citizens who played “by the rules” and created (unwittingly or not), a pervasive “victim culture” among many Americans.

I feel it is now time for a change … even for just 8 years. There is so much reform needed at all levels of govm’t but the presidency is a good place to start and Hill (w/her longtime “partner in crime,” Bill, in the background [pun intended]) isn’t going to address any of these pressing issues.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=svelte][quote=flu]After reading this thread again, I am convinced once people get above a certain age like 50ish+, some people exhibit having a few screws loose and could arguably be qualified as certified nuts.
[/quote]

I think a couple of signs of that are “use” of phantom quotes when they are actually quoting no one and bold text to inject emphasis.[/quote]Yes, I’m known to use quotes around words in posts describing issues which are offensive and/or disgusting to me. They are not quoting anyone. Sorry if it offends you or anyone else, svelte.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu]Convenient how no Canadian will ever get stopped crossing a state border in the u.s., even if they happened to enter illegally.

Well, at least not the light skinned colored ones.[/quote]How do you know that, flu? There ARE officers along our northern borders who ask to see documents of those crossing into the US, even if they ARE Americans.

Again, you’re basing your assumptions on skin color. Canadians are of all races and colors.

[FlyerInHi]

BG; you’re driving an old big Lexus.
The profiling is people driving old cars worth only a few thousand $. The assumption is the cars are worth little so drug dealers don’t care is they forfeit the vehicles.

BG, flyover country is the highest growth in drug consumption. Businesspeople always seek out marginal growth.

I think trump building a beautiful wall to keep out the drugs is so funny. He should tell the people who lose their teeth to drugs to stop consuming.

[flyer]

Personally, regardless of the assumed age of the poster, and although I don’t always agree, I think it’s interesting to read all opinions. Judging whether someone is right or wrong is merely another personal opinion–and not necessarily a fact.

With all of our differences, the one, and possibly only, great common denominator in life is that no one lives on earth forever, but it is interesting to watch the show along the way.

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