Qcom to cut 2000 jobs ?

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]Yes, as stated previously.

Why is teacher or professor such a marginalized occupation in the US?[/quote]

I actually know a math teacher who went into IT.

Because American teenagers are insolent little monsters. And their parents are needy wackjobs who go off if their kids are not treated special.

[Anonymous]

[quote=spdrun]Yes, as stated previously.

Why is teacher or professor such a marginalized occupation in the US?[/quote]

You didn’t give example, you just said “from working at Bell labs to Teaching”.

Teaching what? What motivated them to change, unable to get an engineering job? Didn’t like their job? Couldn’t hack it?

[Anonymous]

Nothing wrong with teaching. Point is, real engineers are motivated by using their analytical skills to solve complex problems.

Being a teacher does not provide this same mental challenge. While teaching may be a rewarding career, I can’t fathom a real engineer getting any job satisfaction from teaching HS kids. Plus salary dropping in half would be a deal breaker for most.

[FlyerInHi]

My cousin’s husband was laid off as an engineer years ago. He could not find a job and ended up teaching adjunct, part-time, at community college. Petty much taking early retirement.

Why could he not find a job? Because he’s a loud month opinionated guy and he carries himself that way. No doubt he’s very intelligent (book smart) but he lacks the specialized skills, and he’s likely not qualified to fit into a dynamic environment.

His son, also an engineer, told him so. But he doesn’t believe his own son and keeps on railing that a certain president has driven the economy into the ground. To him, the recession is still going on.

[spdrun]

Translation: he doesn’t deal well with idiots who deserve a smacking. I bet he’s having more fun teaching (and has more time on the side to pursue his own projects) than working as a corporate slave.

[spdrun]

While teaching may be a rewarding career, I can’t fathom a real engineer getting any job satisfaction from teaching HS kids

One can still do engineering, on their own time. A 9-5 job doesn’t have to be ALL that you do. Also, if the school has money, you can end up playing with some really cool toys, and having students play with those toys as well.

Plenty of brilliant people worked as a teacher or a patent clerk and did amazing work on the side.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]Translation: he doesn’t deal well with idiots who deserve a smacking. I bet he’s having more fun teaching (and has more time on the side to pursue his own projects) than working as a corporate slave.[/quote]

He’s a lousy businessman and has failed in some ventures. Can’t make it as an independent.

Don’t think he could deal with going through certification and becoming a junior teacher, the union politicking, working with other teachers, etc..
Community College adjunct is irregular and low-paid. Also teaches at church.

Before Obamacare, he lost his cobra, got sick, etc… Lots of drama, but always blames others.

[Anonymous]

[quote=spdrun]

While teaching may be a rewarding career, I can’t fathom a real engineer getting any job satisfaction from teaching HS kids

One can still do engineering, on their own time. A 9-5 job doesn’t have to be ALL that you do. Also, if the school has money, you can end up playing with some really cool toys, and having students play with those toys as well.

Plenty of brilliant people worked as a teacher or a patent clerk and did amazing work on the side.[/quote]

Again, in addition to the poor pay, I don’t believe a real engineer would be mentally stimulated by teaching snot nosed kids.

Personally, if I had to leave my job for a non technical career, I would rather drive a garbage truck

[flyer]

Although I got an engineering degree, I still prefer being a pilot and real estate investor, etc., but a few people in our extended family went the education route by choice, and some are raking in $200K+ in their positions at various levels, so it’s really not such a bad gig.

All of our careers have been union protected, with amazing benefits–all pretty much guaranteed for life–so I can see why some would still be attracted to the profession.

[barnaby33]

Seriously guys? This thread was about Qcomm cutting jobs. I believe the number was in the 4k range. Someone I know personally is a chip designer and very nervous about his near future.

Yeah yeah, some people teach, others don’t, different thread.
Josh

[spdrun]

What’s wrong with giving advice, even if it’s outside people’s usual comfort zone? If it’s outside the comfort zone, many people won’t think about it, so it’s valid.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]What’s wrong with giving advice, even if it’s outside people’s usual comfort zone? If it’s outside the comfort zone, many people won’t think about it, so it’s valid.[/quote]

Pay isn’t comparable. That’s why. Come on… I’d consider teaching for “fun” and as a voluntary basis. But as a profession? No thank you. I admire the ones willing to do it. And besides you won’t me indoctrinating your kids 🙂

[spdrun]

Actually, I kind of would — you’re smart enough to think for yourself.

[flyer]

Just to clarify the “Academia” post. Family members I mentioned are in Academic Administration at the University level, which is the reason for the $200K+.

All admit they chose it because they enjoy it, and it provides a great income pretty much guaranteed for life (when you factor in their cool retirement package which they plan to take in their 50’s) + they all wanted to work and live in CA and found some great opportunities here.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. . .

[paramount]

[quote=flu][quote=paramount]Sounds like a miserable place to work (Q).

It’s a lesson taught all to often: if at all possible put yourself in a position where you can survive if you find yourself out of work. If you’re over 40 it can be very difficult to find similiar work, and if you do it will likely be at a considerably reduced rate or in crappy work conditions.

The 1st thing I would do is move to Texas.[/quote]

There’s no way in hell Q is a worse place to work than some of the defense companies that my colleagues worked at, one in particular in Rancho Bernardo. Just saying…[/quote]

And yet I know plenty who have returned after bad experiences working at qualcomm.

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