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October 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM #468938October 13, 2009 at 1:13 PM #468153Rich ToscanoKeymaster
UR – When Krugman was cheering on ultra-easy monetary policy after the dot com crash (and then bemoaning the slightly less ultra-easy policy in 2004), he was oblivious to the distortions all that money and credit creation were causing (the housing bubble was already raging in 04), and to the problems they’d eventually cause.
Now he’s doing it again. This time around, our own currency is at risk. I agree that no dramatic consequences have happened yet, but I believe they are baked into the cake and that Krugman-esque policy will eventually be looked at as a giant, tragic mistake.
Rich
October 13, 2009 at 1:13 PM #468336Rich ToscanoKeymasterUR – When Krugman was cheering on ultra-easy monetary policy after the dot com crash (and then bemoaning the slightly less ultra-easy policy in 2004), he was oblivious to the distortions all that money and credit creation were causing (the housing bubble was already raging in 04), and to the problems they’d eventually cause.
Now he’s doing it again. This time around, our own currency is at risk. I agree that no dramatic consequences have happened yet, but I believe they are baked into the cake and that Krugman-esque policy will eventually be looked at as a giant, tragic mistake.
Rich
October 13, 2009 at 1:13 PM #468694Rich ToscanoKeymasterUR – When Krugman was cheering on ultra-easy monetary policy after the dot com crash (and then bemoaning the slightly less ultra-easy policy in 2004), he was oblivious to the distortions all that money and credit creation were causing (the housing bubble was already raging in 04), and to the problems they’d eventually cause.
Now he’s doing it again. This time around, our own currency is at risk. I agree that no dramatic consequences have happened yet, but I believe they are baked into the cake and that Krugman-esque policy will eventually be looked at as a giant, tragic mistake.
Rich
October 13, 2009 at 1:13 PM #468766Rich ToscanoKeymasterUR – When Krugman was cheering on ultra-easy monetary policy after the dot com crash (and then bemoaning the slightly less ultra-easy policy in 2004), he was oblivious to the distortions all that money and credit creation were causing (the housing bubble was already raging in 04), and to the problems they’d eventually cause.
Now he’s doing it again. This time around, our own currency is at risk. I agree that no dramatic consequences have happened yet, but I believe they are baked into the cake and that Krugman-esque policy will eventually be looked at as a giant, tragic mistake.
Rich
October 13, 2009 at 1:13 PM #468978Rich ToscanoKeymasterUR – When Krugman was cheering on ultra-easy monetary policy after the dot com crash (and then bemoaning the slightly less ultra-easy policy in 2004), he was oblivious to the distortions all that money and credit creation were causing (the housing bubble was already raging in 04), and to the problems they’d eventually cause.
Now he’s doing it again. This time around, our own currency is at risk. I agree that no dramatic consequences have happened yet, but I believe they are baked into the cake and that Krugman-esque policy will eventually be looked at as a giant, tragic mistake.
Rich
October 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM #468148EugeneParticipantFalling dollar is good news. You don’t need Krugman to tell you that.
Your standard of living is in large part what you create for yourselves. Does Nigeria have low standard of living because their currency is too low? Or are there other factors at play?
Did American standard of living fall through the floor after Plaza Accord of 1985, when a bunch of bankers of the world came together and decided officially to devalue the dollar 2.5 times? Imagine that today is 1985, Volcker is the chairman of the Fed, and Krugman is in the background cheering him on. What dirty words would you think of for Volcker and Krugman? And yet you’d be wrong.
Yes – some imports will be more expensive, but imports aren’t a big spending category in anyone’s budget. (You’ll have to pay $30 instead of $20 for a pair of jeans! The horror!) Except oil. But oil prices are so unstable that you can’t predict them anyway. In exchange, you expand exports, you create jobs, and you get healthier overall economy.
October 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM #468331EugeneParticipantFalling dollar is good news. You don’t need Krugman to tell you that.
Your standard of living is in large part what you create for yourselves. Does Nigeria have low standard of living because their currency is too low? Or are there other factors at play?
Did American standard of living fall through the floor after Plaza Accord of 1985, when a bunch of bankers of the world came together and decided officially to devalue the dollar 2.5 times? Imagine that today is 1985, Volcker is the chairman of the Fed, and Krugman is in the background cheering him on. What dirty words would you think of for Volcker and Krugman? And yet you’d be wrong.
Yes – some imports will be more expensive, but imports aren’t a big spending category in anyone’s budget. (You’ll have to pay $30 instead of $20 for a pair of jeans! The horror!) Except oil. But oil prices are so unstable that you can’t predict them anyway. In exchange, you expand exports, you create jobs, and you get healthier overall economy.
October 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM #468689EugeneParticipantFalling dollar is good news. You don’t need Krugman to tell you that.
Your standard of living is in large part what you create for yourselves. Does Nigeria have low standard of living because their currency is too low? Or are there other factors at play?
Did American standard of living fall through the floor after Plaza Accord of 1985, when a bunch of bankers of the world came together and decided officially to devalue the dollar 2.5 times? Imagine that today is 1985, Volcker is the chairman of the Fed, and Krugman is in the background cheering him on. What dirty words would you think of for Volcker and Krugman? And yet you’d be wrong.
Yes – some imports will be more expensive, but imports aren’t a big spending category in anyone’s budget. (You’ll have to pay $30 instead of $20 for a pair of jeans! The horror!) Except oil. But oil prices are so unstable that you can’t predict them anyway. In exchange, you expand exports, you create jobs, and you get healthier overall economy.
October 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM #468761EugeneParticipantFalling dollar is good news. You don’t need Krugman to tell you that.
Your standard of living is in large part what you create for yourselves. Does Nigeria have low standard of living because their currency is too low? Or are there other factors at play?
Did American standard of living fall through the floor after Plaza Accord of 1985, when a bunch of bankers of the world came together and decided officially to devalue the dollar 2.5 times? Imagine that today is 1985, Volcker is the chairman of the Fed, and Krugman is in the background cheering him on. What dirty words would you think of for Volcker and Krugman? And yet you’d be wrong.
Yes – some imports will be more expensive, but imports aren’t a big spending category in anyone’s budget. (You’ll have to pay $30 instead of $20 for a pair of jeans! The horror!) Except oil. But oil prices are so unstable that you can’t predict them anyway. In exchange, you expand exports, you create jobs, and you get healthier overall economy.
October 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM #468973EugeneParticipantFalling dollar is good news. You don’t need Krugman to tell you that.
Your standard of living is in large part what you create for yourselves. Does Nigeria have low standard of living because their currency is too low? Or are there other factors at play?
Did American standard of living fall through the floor after Plaza Accord of 1985, when a bunch of bankers of the world came together and decided officially to devalue the dollar 2.5 times? Imagine that today is 1985, Volcker is the chairman of the Fed, and Krugman is in the background cheering him on. What dirty words would you think of for Volcker and Krugman? And yet you’d be wrong.
Yes – some imports will be more expensive, but imports aren’t a big spending category in anyone’s budget. (You’ll have to pay $30 instead of $20 for a pair of jeans! The horror!) Except oil. But oil prices are so unstable that you can’t predict them anyway. In exchange, you expand exports, you create jobs, and you get healthier overall economy.
October 13, 2009 at 1:26 PM #468158briansd1Guest[quote=Eugene]
Did American standard of living fall through the floor after Plaza Accord of 1985, when a bunch of bankers of the world came together and decided officially to devalue the dollar 2.5 times? [/quote]I didn’t say that Eugene.
Our standards of living did not fall and I don’t expect our standard of living to significant fall either.
I said that we will be less rich relative to others. American tourists won’t feel rich when they travel abroad.
American power (economic and military) is a function of how much superior we are to others. As our currency erodes, our world dominance and influence will erode as well.
Others will rise. We will remain the same. Psychologically, and ideologically we will feel diminished.
October 13, 2009 at 1:26 PM #468341briansd1Guest[quote=Eugene]
Did American standard of living fall through the floor after Plaza Accord of 1985, when a bunch of bankers of the world came together and decided officially to devalue the dollar 2.5 times? [/quote]I didn’t say that Eugene.
Our standards of living did not fall and I don’t expect our standard of living to significant fall either.
I said that we will be less rich relative to others. American tourists won’t feel rich when they travel abroad.
American power (economic and military) is a function of how much superior we are to others. As our currency erodes, our world dominance and influence will erode as well.
Others will rise. We will remain the same. Psychologically, and ideologically we will feel diminished.
October 13, 2009 at 1:26 PM #468699briansd1Guest[quote=Eugene]
Did American standard of living fall through the floor after Plaza Accord of 1985, when a bunch of bankers of the world came together and decided officially to devalue the dollar 2.5 times? [/quote]I didn’t say that Eugene.
Our standards of living did not fall and I don’t expect our standard of living to significant fall either.
I said that we will be less rich relative to others. American tourists won’t feel rich when they travel abroad.
American power (economic and military) is a function of how much superior we are to others. As our currency erodes, our world dominance and influence will erode as well.
Others will rise. We will remain the same. Psychologically, and ideologically we will feel diminished.
October 13, 2009 at 1:26 PM #468771briansd1Guest[quote=Eugene]
Did American standard of living fall through the floor after Plaza Accord of 1985, when a bunch of bankers of the world came together and decided officially to devalue the dollar 2.5 times? [/quote]I didn’t say that Eugene.
Our standards of living did not fall and I don’t expect our standard of living to significant fall either.
I said that we will be less rich relative to others. American tourists won’t feel rich when they travel abroad.
American power (economic and military) is a function of how much superior we are to others. As our currency erodes, our world dominance and influence will erode as well.
Others will rise. We will remain the same. Psychologically, and ideologically we will feel diminished.
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