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June 20, 2014 at 10:35 PM #21144June 21, 2014 at 2:58 AM #775530CA renterParticipant
Questioning the “Pledge of Allegiance.”
I’ve always asked people: What exactly are we pledging allegiance to?
-a piece of cloth with stars and stripes?
-the land that is currently called The United States of America…the soil that is within our political boundaries?
-our government puppets who push for wars against innocent people so that we can extract their resources? The very people who will throw innocent citizens/workers under the bus so long as corporations will benefit?
-to the Constitution?
-our fellow Americans? And what about illegal immigrants or Green Card holders…are we pledging allegiance to them, too? What about people we don’t like or agree with?
-to a particular type of economic theory (whether it’s been proven or not)?
So…the Pledge of Allegiance and the moral/ethical issues surrounding patriotism/Jingoism are things that we are not allowed to question or talk about.
June 21, 2014 at 3:01 AM #775531CA renterParticipantMoney is still taboo if you’re asking someone about how much they make, specifically.
In this “capitalist” and “free market” labor market, the price of labor is extremely opaque to the workers.
June 21, 2014 at 7:34 AM #775535scaredyclassicParticipantTrue. I guess it can seem odd to tell run friends or relatives not about what you earn but exactly what you earn. Is that more or less taboo than the e xact Size of one’s penis?
June 21, 2014 at 8:33 AM #775541NotCrankyParticipantPledge of allegiance is crazy stuff. Really sick.
June 21, 2014 at 8:33 AM #775534scaredyclassicParticipant..
June 21, 2014 at 8:36 AM #775543spdrunParticipantProbably money — I don’t consider questioning the military or flag to be taboo. In fact, questioning the government, its symbols, and its hired guns is as American as can be.
June 21, 2014 at 9:09 AM #775547CoronitaParticipantIf you have money (and I don’t), just shut up and don’t talk about it….
Because if you have any sort of shred of wealth built or accumulated, obviously you must be part of the “rich 1%” (plus or minus a few points) that is part of the problem in the U.S… Hard work, savings, investing,living within your means, frugality had absolutely nothing to do with it…
Because it’s evil….
Just say you’re poor….
June 21, 2014 at 10:23 AM #775548spdrunParticipantWho cares about perception of evil? On a more practical note, people who think you have money will ask you for money.
June 21, 2014 at 11:01 AM #775549scaredyclassicParticipantDeath. End of life planning
June 21, 2014 at 12:44 PM #775554svelteParticipantI too have noticed that expressing any sort of displeasure about the military is absolutely taboo.
The flag too, but less so.
Other things, in order of decreasing resistance:
– Disliking kids (not that I dislike them, but have friends who don’t care for them and they feel ostracized to even mention it)
– Supporting population growth limits (funny how the thing that could do the most to protect our environment going forward is never mentioned!!)
– Questioning crosses or religious displays on public property
– Thinking the govt bailouts were a good thing…probably forgetting a few…
June 21, 2014 at 4:55 PM #775565CA renterParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]Death. End of life planning[/quote]
Yes!!!
I’ve known perfectly intelligent, rational people who didn’t have trusts or wills set up, even when there were multiple kids and possible issues to deal with. Crazy!
June 21, 2014 at 4:57 PM #775566CA renterParticipant[quote=flu]If you have money (and I don’t), just shut up and don’t talk about it….
Because if you have any sort of shred of wealth built or accumulated, obviously you must be part of the “rich 1%” (plus or minus a few points) that is part of the problem in the U.S… Hard work, savings, investing,living within your means, frugality had absolutely nothing to do with it…
Because it’s evil….
Just say you’re poor….[/quote]
Hogwash. Nobody that I know of has a problem with people who’ve made money by working hard, living frugally, and saving. People have a problem with those who’ve made their money by scamming the system and exploiting other people or resources.
June 21, 2014 at 6:43 PM #775568scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=scaredyclassic]Death. End of life planning[/quote]
Yes!!!
I’ve known perfectly intelligent, rational people who didn’t have trusts or wills set up, even when there were multiple kids and possible issues to deal with. Crazy![/quote]
Death. Advance directives.
I want no drastic measures taken. I want to die at home, or perhaps in court.
June 21, 2014 at 9:57 PM #775571CA renterParticipantYes, scaredy, I’m just making a broad statement about the whole “end of life” thing. I think some people think that if you ignore it, then you won’t die.
I want to die quickly. Not afraid of death; it’s the dying part that has me worried.
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