OT:Law Firm Associates Getting SLAUGHTERED…

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Partypup: Well written, cogent post. The problem here is the readers go from “complete normalcy” to “Mad Max” in one sudden movement. I agree with your assessment as to the unlikelihood of that situation and I would point readers to the LA Riots of 1992 or Hurricane Katrina in terms of how quickly the wheels can come off the wagon.

I was here during the Fallbrook/Rice Canyon Fire and chose to stay rather than evacuate. I recall having a Marine Humvee patrolling my neighborhood with a gunner up top behind a loaded .50cal. I can also recall having coffee at the nearly deserted Starbucks with a CHP officer and a SD Sheriff, both of whom told me to shoot first and ask questions later as far as encountering anyone I didn’t know in my neighborhood. I live in a quiet cul-de-sac near downtown Fallbrook and I’m not out in the sticks. The Sheriff was blunt in terms of local law enforcement being “stretched thin” and having to ask Camp Pendleton for help in maintaining order and preventing looters. Their handling of the evac was exemplary and the locals were orderly and well behaved and it still stretched their resources to the limit.

I remember watching news footage of LAPD’s handling of South Central during the LA Riots in 1992 and realizing that they had completely ceded control to the mob. It doesn’t take much to get there. The idea that the police and the National Guard are capable of handling widespread civil unrest and rioting is simply not true.

I hope things don’t get sideways, but it seems prudent to be prepared for them if they do.

[Dukehorn]

First off, attorney compensation at the top tier firms is ridiculous. When I was at Brobeck over 10 years ago, starting salaries were still under 6 figures. When did a first year associate who essentially knows nothing start deserving 160k starting salaries?

As in-house counsel at a company that uses Latham, I can assure you that I think twice when I’m calling for advice. I’m calling someone senior for their thoughts and I’m not paying for junior associate research. I’ll do that myself or farm it out to admins for help.

When you think that some 25 year old with no work experience and 3 years of law school is earning 40-50k more than tenured professors or PhDs at biotechs, that easily tells you where our economic system is out of whack.

As for “Armageddon”, maybe I’ll go ahead and take the nihilist approach. If the shit is that bad, what’s the point?

[Dukehorn]

First off, attorney compensation at the top tier firms is ridiculous. When I was at Brobeck over 10 years ago, starting salaries were still under 6 figures. When did a first year associate who essentially knows nothing start deserving 160k starting salaries?

As in-house counsel at a company that uses Latham, I can assure you that I think twice when I’m calling for advice. I’m calling someone senior for their thoughts and I’m not paying for junior associate research. I’ll do that myself or farm it out to admins for help.

When you think that some 25 year old with no work experience and 3 years of law school is earning 40-50k more than tenured professors or PhDs at biotechs, that easily tells you where our economic system is out of whack.

As for “Armageddon”, maybe I’ll go ahead and take the nihilist approach. If the shit is that bad, what’s the point?

[Dukehorn]

First off, attorney compensation at the top tier firms is ridiculous. When I was at Brobeck over 10 years ago, starting salaries were still under 6 figures. When did a first year associate who essentially knows nothing start deserving 160k starting salaries?

As in-house counsel at a company that uses Latham, I can assure you that I think twice when I’m calling for advice. I’m calling someone senior for their thoughts and I’m not paying for junior associate research. I’ll do that myself or farm it out to admins for help.

When you think that some 25 year old with no work experience and 3 years of law school is earning 40-50k more than tenured professors or PhDs at biotechs, that easily tells you where our economic system is out of whack.

As for “Armageddon”, maybe I’ll go ahead and take the nihilist approach. If the shit is that bad, what’s the point?

[Dukehorn]

First off, attorney compensation at the top tier firms is ridiculous. When I was at Brobeck over 10 years ago, starting salaries were still under 6 figures. When did a first year associate who essentially knows nothing start deserving 160k starting salaries?

As in-house counsel at a company that uses Latham, I can assure you that I think twice when I’m calling for advice. I’m calling someone senior for their thoughts and I’m not paying for junior associate research. I’ll do that myself or farm it out to admins for help.

When you think that some 25 year old with no work experience and 3 years of law school is earning 40-50k more than tenured professors or PhDs at biotechs, that easily tells you where our economic system is out of whack.

As for “Armageddon”, maybe I’ll go ahead and take the nihilist approach. If the shit is that bad, what’s the point?

[Dukehorn]

First off, attorney compensation at the top tier firms is ridiculous. When I was at Brobeck over 10 years ago, starting salaries were still under 6 figures. When did a first year associate who essentially knows nothing start deserving 160k starting salaries?

As in-house counsel at a company that uses Latham, I can assure you that I think twice when I’m calling for advice. I’m calling someone senior for their thoughts and I’m not paying for junior associate research. I’ll do that myself or farm it out to admins for help.

When you think that some 25 year old with no work experience and 3 years of law school is earning 40-50k more than tenured professors or PhDs at biotechs, that easily tells you where our economic system is out of whack.

As for “Armageddon”, maybe I’ll go ahead and take the nihilist approach. If the shit is that bad, what’s the point?

[Shadowfax]

DLA has been doing stealth lay offs for a few months now, since before the holidays (like, right before). Nice, eh?

[Shadowfax]

DLA has been doing stealth lay offs for a few months now, since before the holidays (like, right before). Nice, eh?

[Shadowfax]

DLA has been doing stealth lay offs for a few months now, since before the holidays (like, right before). Nice, eh?

[Shadowfax]

DLA has been doing stealth lay offs for a few months now, since before the holidays (like, right before). Nice, eh?

[Shadowfax]

DLA has been doing stealth lay offs for a few months now, since before the holidays (like, right before). Nice, eh?

[Coronita]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Partypup: Well written, cogent post. The problem here is the readers go from “complete normalcy” to “Mad Max” in one sudden movement. I agree with your assessment as to the unlikelihood of that situation and I would point readers to the LA Riots of 1992 or Hurricane Katrina in terms of how quickly the wheels can come off the wagon.

I was here during the Fallbrook/Rice Canyon Fire and chose to stay rather than evacuate. I recall having a Marine Humvee patrolling my neighborhood with a gunner up top behind a loaded .50cal. I can also recall having coffee at the nearly deserted Starbucks with a CHP officer and a SD Sheriff, both of whom told me to shoot first and ask questions later as far as encountering anyone I didn’t know in my neighborhood. I live in a quiet cul-de-sac near downtown Fallbrook and I’m not out in the sticks. The Sheriff was blunt in terms of local law enforcement being “stretched thin” and having to ask Camp Pendleton for help in maintaining order and preventing looters. Their handling of the evac was exemplary and the locals were orderly and well behaved and it still stretched their resources to the limit.

I remember watching news footage of LAPD’s handling of South Central during the LA Riots in 1992 and realizing that they had completely ceded control to the mob. It doesn’t take much to get there. The idea that the police and the National Guard are capable of handling widespread civil unrest and rioting is simply not true.

I hope things don’t get sideways, but it seems prudent to be prepared for them if they do.[/quote]

During the LA riots, the stores/homes that didn’t get looted where the ones for which owners and neighbhors were sitting on the roof with guns drawn or the folks that paid a private police force. In my neck of the woods, it was simple. The private police force sealed off the all entrances and exits entering and leaving the area, additional private security forces paid by select residence was drop lifted to backup the private police and guard personal property, and and a few residence brought their guns to camp outside their homes.

Don’t worry, I hear Blackwater is looking for employment/contract opportunities. I hear if you point them in the general direction of the riot area, they do their best at shooting at random targets.

[Coronita]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Partypup: Well written, cogent post. The problem here is the readers go from “complete normalcy” to “Mad Max” in one sudden movement. I agree with your assessment as to the unlikelihood of that situation and I would point readers to the LA Riots of 1992 or Hurricane Katrina in terms of how quickly the wheels can come off the wagon.

I was here during the Fallbrook/Rice Canyon Fire and chose to stay rather than evacuate. I recall having a Marine Humvee patrolling my neighborhood with a gunner up top behind a loaded .50cal. I can also recall having coffee at the nearly deserted Starbucks with a CHP officer and a SD Sheriff, both of whom told me to shoot first and ask questions later as far as encountering anyone I didn’t know in my neighborhood. I live in a quiet cul-de-sac near downtown Fallbrook and I’m not out in the sticks. The Sheriff was blunt in terms of local law enforcement being “stretched thin” and having to ask Camp Pendleton for help in maintaining order and preventing looters. Their handling of the evac was exemplary and the locals were orderly and well behaved and it still stretched their resources to the limit.

I remember watching news footage of LAPD’s handling of South Central during the LA Riots in 1992 and realizing that they had completely ceded control to the mob. It doesn’t take much to get there. The idea that the police and the National Guard are capable of handling widespread civil unrest and rioting is simply not true.

I hope things don’t get sideways, but it seems prudent to be prepared for them if they do.[/quote]

During the LA riots, the stores/homes that didn’t get looted where the ones for which owners and neighbhors were sitting on the roof with guns drawn or the folks that paid a private police force. In my neck of the woods, it was simple. The private police force sealed off the all entrances and exits entering and leaving the area, additional private security forces paid by select residence was drop lifted to backup the private police and guard personal property, and and a few residence brought their guns to camp outside their homes.

Don’t worry, I hear Blackwater is looking for employment/contract opportunities. I hear if you point them in the general direction of the riot area, they do their best at shooting at random targets.

[Coronita]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Partypup: Well written, cogent post. The problem here is the readers go from “complete normalcy” to “Mad Max” in one sudden movement. I agree with your assessment as to the unlikelihood of that situation and I would point readers to the LA Riots of 1992 or Hurricane Katrina in terms of how quickly the wheels can come off the wagon.

I was here during the Fallbrook/Rice Canyon Fire and chose to stay rather than evacuate. I recall having a Marine Humvee patrolling my neighborhood with a gunner up top behind a loaded .50cal. I can also recall having coffee at the nearly deserted Starbucks with a CHP officer and a SD Sheriff, both of whom told me to shoot first and ask questions later as far as encountering anyone I didn’t know in my neighborhood. I live in a quiet cul-de-sac near downtown Fallbrook and I’m not out in the sticks. The Sheriff was blunt in terms of local law enforcement being “stretched thin” and having to ask Camp Pendleton for help in maintaining order and preventing looters. Their handling of the evac was exemplary and the locals were orderly and well behaved and it still stretched their resources to the limit.

I remember watching news footage of LAPD’s handling of South Central during the LA Riots in 1992 and realizing that they had completely ceded control to the mob. It doesn’t take much to get there. The idea that the police and the National Guard are capable of handling widespread civil unrest and rioting is simply not true.

I hope things don’t get sideways, but it seems prudent to be prepared for them if they do.[/quote]

During the LA riots, the stores/homes that didn’t get looted where the ones for which owners and neighbhors were sitting on the roof with guns drawn or the folks that paid a private police force. In my neck of the woods, it was simple. The private police force sealed off the all entrances and exits entering and leaving the area, additional private security forces paid by select residence was drop lifted to backup the private police and guard personal property, and and a few residence brought their guns to camp outside their homes.

Don’t worry, I hear Blackwater is looking for employment/contract opportunities. I hear if you point them in the general direction of the riot area, they do their best at shooting at random targets.

[Coronita]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Partypup: Well written, cogent post. The problem here is the readers go from “complete normalcy” to “Mad Max” in one sudden movement. I agree with your assessment as to the unlikelihood of that situation and I would point readers to the LA Riots of 1992 or Hurricane Katrina in terms of how quickly the wheels can come off the wagon.

I was here during the Fallbrook/Rice Canyon Fire and chose to stay rather than evacuate. I recall having a Marine Humvee patrolling my neighborhood with a gunner up top behind a loaded .50cal. I can also recall having coffee at the nearly deserted Starbucks with a CHP officer and a SD Sheriff, both of whom told me to shoot first and ask questions later as far as encountering anyone I didn’t know in my neighborhood. I live in a quiet cul-de-sac near downtown Fallbrook and I’m not out in the sticks. The Sheriff was blunt in terms of local law enforcement being “stretched thin” and having to ask Camp Pendleton for help in maintaining order and preventing looters. Their handling of the evac was exemplary and the locals were orderly and well behaved and it still stretched their resources to the limit.

I remember watching news footage of LAPD’s handling of South Central during the LA Riots in 1992 and realizing that they had completely ceded control to the mob. It doesn’t take much to get there. The idea that the police and the National Guard are capable of handling widespread civil unrest and rioting is simply not true.

I hope things don’t get sideways, but it seems prudent to be prepared for them if they do.[/quote]

During the LA riots, the stores/homes that didn’t get looted where the ones for which owners and neighbhors were sitting on the roof with guns drawn or the folks that paid a private police force. In my neck of the woods, it was simple. The private police force sealed off the all entrances and exits entering and leaving the area, additional private security forces paid by select residence was drop lifted to backup the private police and guard personal property, and and a few residence brought their guns to camp outside their homes.

Don’t worry, I hear Blackwater is looking for employment/contract opportunities. I hear if you point them in the general direction of the riot area, they do their best at shooting at random targets.

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