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March 2, 2009 at 5:26 PM #359361March 2, 2009 at 5:46 PM #358799
Zeitgeist
ParticipantI think the city dwellers who do not store much food and probably no water will be in worse shape than those in the country. According to some of the experts, the large stores do not have much more on hand than for 48 hours and when there is a big run on them like in hurricane season, they run out much faster. I do not think you have to eat military or freeze dried food. Next time you are in Costco, look at some of the canned meat items and see how long they last. As others have previously posted, white rice, properly stored, has a long shelf life. I do not mind drinking warm beer, but I cannot drink warm champagne. That would be blasphemy. For that reason alone, I hope we do not have an utter meltdown. I have always felt we are a few clicks away from chaos, but like the Partypup, I am a light sleeper.
March 2, 2009 at 5:46 PM #359101ParticipantI think the city dwellers who do not store much food and probably no water will be in worse shape than those in the country. According to some of the experts, the large stores do not have much more on hand than for 48 hours and when there is a big run on them like in hurricane season, they run out much faster. I do not think you have to eat military or freeze dried food. Next time you are in Costco, look at some of the canned meat items and see how long they last. As others have previously posted, white rice, properly stored, has a long shelf life. I do not mind drinking warm beer, but I cannot drink warm champagne. That would be blasphemy. For that reason alone, I hope we do not have an utter meltdown. I have always felt we are a few clicks away from chaos, but like the Partypup, I am a light sleeper.
March 2, 2009 at 5:46 PM #359242ParticipantI think the city dwellers who do not store much food and probably no water will be in worse shape than those in the country. According to some of the experts, the large stores do not have much more on hand than for 48 hours and when there is a big run on them like in hurricane season, they run out much faster. I do not think you have to eat military or freeze dried food. Next time you are in Costco, look at some of the canned meat items and see how long they last. As others have previously posted, white rice, properly stored, has a long shelf life. I do not mind drinking warm beer, but I cannot drink warm champagne. That would be blasphemy. For that reason alone, I hope we do not have an utter meltdown. I have always felt we are a few clicks away from chaos, but like the Partypup, I am a light sleeper.
March 2, 2009 at 5:46 PM #359277ParticipantI think the city dwellers who do not store much food and probably no water will be in worse shape than those in the country. According to some of the experts, the large stores do not have much more on hand than for 48 hours and when there is a big run on them like in hurricane season, they run out much faster. I do not think you have to eat military or freeze dried food. Next time you are in Costco, look at some of the canned meat items and see how long they last. As others have previously posted, white rice, properly stored, has a long shelf life. I do not mind drinking warm beer, but I cannot drink warm champagne. That would be blasphemy. For that reason alone, I hope we do not have an utter meltdown. I have always felt we are a few clicks away from chaos, but like the Partypup, I am a light sleeper.
March 2, 2009 at 5:46 PM #359381ParticipantI think the city dwellers who do not store much food and probably no water will be in worse shape than those in the country. According to some of the experts, the large stores do not have much more on hand than for 48 hours and when there is a big run on them like in hurricane season, they run out much faster. I do not think you have to eat military or freeze dried food. Next time you are in Costco, look at some of the canned meat items and see how long they last. As others have previously posted, white rice, properly stored, has a long shelf life. I do not mind drinking warm beer, but I cannot drink warm champagne. That would be blasphemy. For that reason alone, I hope we do not have an utter meltdown. I have always felt we are a few clicks away from chaos, but like the Partypup, I am a light sleeper.
March 2, 2009 at 6:05 PM #358814AK
ParticipantWow.
True story: I’ve always had a bit of a morbid streak and I used to play “nuclear survival” with the other kids on the street when I was a kid. Actually, it wasn’t so much child’s play as a reaction to the “living will envy the dead” fatalism of our parents’ generation. Somewhere in that basement there may still be some stockpiled supplies of food and water. (Not that I’d touch the **** after all these years.)
But some of you folks are starting to make me look like a hopeless optimist 🙂
Just remember … if you stockpile MREs, stash some Metamucil as well!
March 2, 2009 at 6:05 PM #359116ParticipantWow.
True story: I’ve always had a bit of a morbid streak and I used to play “nuclear survival” with the other kids on the street when I was a kid. Actually, it wasn’t so much child’s play as a reaction to the “living will envy the dead” fatalism of our parents’ generation. Somewhere in that basement there may still be some stockpiled supplies of food and water. (Not that I’d touch the **** after all these years.)
But some of you folks are starting to make me look like a hopeless optimist 🙂
Just remember … if you stockpile MREs, stash some Metamucil as well!
March 2, 2009 at 6:05 PM #359258ParticipantWow.
True story: I’ve always had a bit of a morbid streak and I used to play “nuclear survival” with the other kids on the street when I was a kid. Actually, it wasn’t so much child’s play as a reaction to the “living will envy the dead” fatalism of our parents’ generation. Somewhere in that basement there may still be some stockpiled supplies of food and water. (Not that I’d touch the **** after all these years.)
But some of you folks are starting to make me look like a hopeless optimist 🙂
Just remember … if you stockpile MREs, stash some Metamucil as well!
March 2, 2009 at 6:05 PM #359294ParticipantWow.
True story: I’ve always had a bit of a morbid streak and I used to play “nuclear survival” with the other kids on the street when I was a kid. Actually, it wasn’t so much child’s play as a reaction to the “living will envy the dead” fatalism of our parents’ generation. Somewhere in that basement there may still be some stockpiled supplies of food and water. (Not that I’d touch the **** after all these years.)
But some of you folks are starting to make me look like a hopeless optimist 🙂
Just remember … if you stockpile MREs, stash some Metamucil as well!
March 2, 2009 at 6:05 PM #359396ParticipantWow.
True story: I’ve always had a bit of a morbid streak and I used to play “nuclear survival” with the other kids on the street when I was a kid. Actually, it wasn’t so much child’s play as a reaction to the “living will envy the dead” fatalism of our parents’ generation. Somewhere in that basement there may still be some stockpiled supplies of food and water. (Not that I’d touch the **** after all these years.)
But some of you folks are starting to make me look like a hopeless optimist 🙂
Just remember … if you stockpile MREs, stash some Metamucil as well!
March 2, 2009 at 6:24 PM #358819partypup
Participant[quote=JohnAlt91941][quote=partypup]
They didn’t fill all the positions at once. What’s so suspicious about that?
[/quote]That doesn’t make sense. Why wouldn’t they just go back through the applicants they had on file, especially if they supposedly had this massive number of job seekers? Does Trader Joe’s like to deal with a horde of applicants when it’s not necessary? I know you can’t answer that, but what do you think? Like I said, it doesn’t pass the smell test.
That and the fact that Trader Joe’s is actually expanding in the area makes your 3rd hand anecdote seem like a pretty weak “tipping point”. Not that there isn’t plenty of bad economic news. It’s pretty much all that gets reported during a recession.
[/quote]I don’t know the details. I’m pretty sure my friend didn’t bother to get into the specifics as to why they weren’t hiring everyone at once. She just inquired to get a general sense of what her competition was. People who are really hungry for work are generally so pre-occupied with just getting their foot in the door that they don’t stop to ask the questions you’re asking – not that they’re not good questions. I get that you don’t think the Trader Joe’s anecdote was a tipping point. I think that there are plenty of other examples of tipping points around us that seem to indicate, at least to me, that this crisis has taken another turn for the worst.
The fact that we are now firmly below 7,000 on the Dow would seem to be a tipping point.
This might be another one:
“Laid-off professionals turn to ‘survival jobs'”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2008798590_jobs01.html
March 2, 2009 at 6:24 PM #359121Participant[quote=JohnAlt91941][quote=partypup]
They didn’t fill all the positions at once. What’s so suspicious about that?
[/quote]That doesn’t make sense. Why wouldn’t they just go back through the applicants they had on file, especially if they supposedly had this massive number of job seekers? Does Trader Joe’s like to deal with a horde of applicants when it’s not necessary? I know you can’t answer that, but what do you think? Like I said, it doesn’t pass the smell test.
That and the fact that Trader Joe’s is actually expanding in the area makes your 3rd hand anecdote seem like a pretty weak “tipping point”. Not that there isn’t plenty of bad economic news. It’s pretty much all that gets reported during a recession.
[/quote]I don’t know the details. I’m pretty sure my friend didn’t bother to get into the specifics as to why they weren’t hiring everyone at once. She just inquired to get a general sense of what her competition was. People who are really hungry for work are generally so pre-occupied with just getting their foot in the door that they don’t stop to ask the questions you’re asking – not that they’re not good questions. I get that you don’t think the Trader Joe’s anecdote was a tipping point. I think that there are plenty of other examples of tipping points around us that seem to indicate, at least to me, that this crisis has taken another turn for the worst.
The fact that we are now firmly below 7,000 on the Dow would seem to be a tipping point.
This might be another one:
“Laid-off professionals turn to ‘survival jobs'”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2008798590_jobs01.html
March 2, 2009 at 6:24 PM #359263Participant[quote=JohnAlt91941][quote=partypup]
They didn’t fill all the positions at once. What’s so suspicious about that?
[/quote]That doesn’t make sense. Why wouldn’t they just go back through the applicants they had on file, especially if they supposedly had this massive number of job seekers? Does Trader Joe’s like to deal with a horde of applicants when it’s not necessary? I know you can’t answer that, but what do you think? Like I said, it doesn’t pass the smell test.
That and the fact that Trader Joe’s is actually expanding in the area makes your 3rd hand anecdote seem like a pretty weak “tipping point”. Not that there isn’t plenty of bad economic news. It’s pretty much all that gets reported during a recession.
[/quote]I don’t know the details. I’m pretty sure my friend didn’t bother to get into the specifics as to why they weren’t hiring everyone at once. She just inquired to get a general sense of what her competition was. People who are really hungry for work are generally so pre-occupied with just getting their foot in the door that they don’t stop to ask the questions you’re asking – not that they’re not good questions. I get that you don’t think the Trader Joe’s anecdote was a tipping point. I think that there are plenty of other examples of tipping points around us that seem to indicate, at least to me, that this crisis has taken another turn for the worst.
The fact that we are now firmly below 7,000 on the Dow would seem to be a tipping point.
This might be another one:
“Laid-off professionals turn to ‘survival jobs'”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2008798590_jobs01.html
March 2, 2009 at 6:24 PM #359299Participant[quote=JohnAlt91941][quote=partypup]
They didn’t fill all the positions at once. What’s so suspicious about that?
[/quote]That doesn’t make sense. Why wouldn’t they just go back through the applicants they had on file, especially if they supposedly had this massive number of job seekers? Does Trader Joe’s like to deal with a horde of applicants when it’s not necessary? I know you can’t answer that, but what do you think? Like I said, it doesn’t pass the smell test.
That and the fact that Trader Joe’s is actually expanding in the area makes your 3rd hand anecdote seem like a pretty weak “tipping point”. Not that there isn’t plenty of bad economic news. It’s pretty much all that gets reported during a recession.
[/quote]I don’t know the details. I’m pretty sure my friend didn’t bother to get into the specifics as to why they weren’t hiring everyone at once. She just inquired to get a general sense of what her competition was. People who are really hungry for work are generally so pre-occupied with just getting their foot in the door that they don’t stop to ask the questions you’re asking – not that they’re not good questions. I get that you don’t think the Trader Joe’s anecdote was a tipping point. I think that there are plenty of other examples of tipping points around us that seem to indicate, at least to me, that this crisis has taken another turn for the worst.
The fact that we are now firmly below 7,000 on the Dow would seem to be a tipping point.
This might be another one:
“Laid-off professionals turn to ‘survival jobs'”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2008798590_jobs01.html
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