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October 26, 2008 at 8:53 AM #293397October 26, 2008 at 9:58 AM #293028jficquetteParticipant
[quote=urbanrealtor]Almost every example of a country walking away from democracy in the modern era falls into one of two categories:
a) a country on a nationalist swing moving (on purpose) away from consultative institutions
(eg: Russia, Germany)b) a relatively weak country who could be unduly influenced by outside power brokers
(eg: Peru, Argentina, Iran)This means that any assertion that a president has the ability to steer a country away from democracy is a dubious one. Essentially, no matter how crazy Obama acts, there will be elections. If he acts especially crazy, he will lose much of the backing of congress. I think the lesson of 94 and 06 is that backing bad policy is political suicide. Most legislators went to enough college to understand that.
A more realistic fear for those on the right is that he makes moves that swing our country to the left. That is a real concern. We have seen that Europeans have adopted left leaning ways and then keep reelecting the governments that put them there. I think it is pretty likely that the public will end up liking a European style standard of living and model of healthcare.
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A nuke exploded in DC or NYC or both would end democracy as we know it.
Buffet claims its inevitable that it will happen one day. I can’t think of a better window of opportunity then under Obama.
John
October 26, 2008 at 9:58 AM #293353jficquetteParticipant[quote=urbanrealtor]Almost every example of a country walking away from democracy in the modern era falls into one of two categories:
a) a country on a nationalist swing moving (on purpose) away from consultative institutions
(eg: Russia, Germany)b) a relatively weak country who could be unduly influenced by outside power brokers
(eg: Peru, Argentina, Iran)This means that any assertion that a president has the ability to steer a country away from democracy is a dubious one. Essentially, no matter how crazy Obama acts, there will be elections. If he acts especially crazy, he will lose much of the backing of congress. I think the lesson of 94 and 06 is that backing bad policy is political suicide. Most legislators went to enough college to understand that.
A more realistic fear for those on the right is that he makes moves that swing our country to the left. That is a real concern. We have seen that Europeans have adopted left leaning ways and then keep reelecting the governments that put them there. I think it is pretty likely that the public will end up liking a European style standard of living and model of healthcare.
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A nuke exploded in DC or NYC or both would end democracy as we know it.
Buffet claims its inevitable that it will happen one day. I can’t think of a better window of opportunity then under Obama.
John
October 26, 2008 at 9:58 AM #293379jficquetteParticipant[quote=urbanrealtor]Almost every example of a country walking away from democracy in the modern era falls into one of two categories:
a) a country on a nationalist swing moving (on purpose) away from consultative institutions
(eg: Russia, Germany)b) a relatively weak country who could be unduly influenced by outside power brokers
(eg: Peru, Argentina, Iran)This means that any assertion that a president has the ability to steer a country away from democracy is a dubious one. Essentially, no matter how crazy Obama acts, there will be elections. If he acts especially crazy, he will lose much of the backing of congress. I think the lesson of 94 and 06 is that backing bad policy is political suicide. Most legislators went to enough college to understand that.
A more realistic fear for those on the right is that he makes moves that swing our country to the left. That is a real concern. We have seen that Europeans have adopted left leaning ways and then keep reelecting the governments that put them there. I think it is pretty likely that the public will end up liking a European style standard of living and model of healthcare.
[/quote]
A nuke exploded in DC or NYC or both would end democracy as we know it.
Buffet claims its inevitable that it will happen one day. I can’t think of a better window of opportunity then under Obama.
John
October 26, 2008 at 9:58 AM #293390jficquetteParticipant[quote=urbanrealtor]Almost every example of a country walking away from democracy in the modern era falls into one of two categories:
a) a country on a nationalist swing moving (on purpose) away from consultative institutions
(eg: Russia, Germany)b) a relatively weak country who could be unduly influenced by outside power brokers
(eg: Peru, Argentina, Iran)This means that any assertion that a president has the ability to steer a country away from democracy is a dubious one. Essentially, no matter how crazy Obama acts, there will be elections. If he acts especially crazy, he will lose much of the backing of congress. I think the lesson of 94 and 06 is that backing bad policy is political suicide. Most legislators went to enough college to understand that.
A more realistic fear for those on the right is that he makes moves that swing our country to the left. That is a real concern. We have seen that Europeans have adopted left leaning ways and then keep reelecting the governments that put them there. I think it is pretty likely that the public will end up liking a European style standard of living and model of healthcare.
[/quote]
A nuke exploded in DC or NYC or both would end democracy as we know it.
Buffet claims its inevitable that it will happen one day. I can’t think of a better window of opportunity then under Obama.
John
October 26, 2008 at 9:58 AM #293427jficquetteParticipant[quote=urbanrealtor]Almost every example of a country walking away from democracy in the modern era falls into one of two categories:
a) a country on a nationalist swing moving (on purpose) away from consultative institutions
(eg: Russia, Germany)b) a relatively weak country who could be unduly influenced by outside power brokers
(eg: Peru, Argentina, Iran)This means that any assertion that a president has the ability to steer a country away from democracy is a dubious one. Essentially, no matter how crazy Obama acts, there will be elections. If he acts especially crazy, he will lose much of the backing of congress. I think the lesson of 94 and 06 is that backing bad policy is political suicide. Most legislators went to enough college to understand that.
A more realistic fear for those on the right is that he makes moves that swing our country to the left. That is a real concern. We have seen that Europeans have adopted left leaning ways and then keep reelecting the governments that put them there. I think it is pretty likely that the public will end up liking a European style standard of living and model of healthcare.
[/quote]
A nuke exploded in DC or NYC or both would end democracy as we know it.
Buffet claims its inevitable that it will happen one day. I can’t think of a better window of opportunity then under Obama.
John
October 26, 2008 at 10:07 AM #293038jficquetteParticipantPartypup,
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John
October 26, 2008 at 10:07 AM #293363jficquetteParticipantPartypup,
I love it when you post.
John
October 26, 2008 at 10:07 AM #293389jficquetteParticipantPartypup,
I love it when you post.
John
October 26, 2008 at 10:07 AM #293400jficquetteParticipantPartypup,
I love it when you post.
John
October 26, 2008 at 10:07 AM #293437jficquetteParticipantPartypup,
I love it when you post.
John
October 26, 2008 at 10:09 AM #293032jficquetteParticipantShannon,
If you ever become one of the ones who actually pays significant income taxes then you might have a different prespective on what “spreading the wealth” really means.
You won’t have to worry about testing kids under Obama in elementary schools to assign their future paths because Minorties would test worst then Whites and would be assigned to lower status careers.
As far as me being a conservative. If you knew what a conservative really was then you wouldn’t call me that. Conservatives want government too. I want to get rid of it.
John
October 26, 2008 at 10:09 AM #293358jficquetteParticipantShannon,
If you ever become one of the ones who actually pays significant income taxes then you might have a different prespective on what “spreading the wealth” really means.
You won’t have to worry about testing kids under Obama in elementary schools to assign their future paths because Minorties would test worst then Whites and would be assigned to lower status careers.
As far as me being a conservative. If you knew what a conservative really was then you wouldn’t call me that. Conservatives want government too. I want to get rid of it.
John
October 26, 2008 at 10:09 AM #293384jficquetteParticipantShannon,
If you ever become one of the ones who actually pays significant income taxes then you might have a different prespective on what “spreading the wealth” really means.
You won’t have to worry about testing kids under Obama in elementary schools to assign their future paths because Minorties would test worst then Whites and would be assigned to lower status careers.
As far as me being a conservative. If you knew what a conservative really was then you wouldn’t call me that. Conservatives want government too. I want to get rid of it.
John
October 26, 2008 at 10:09 AM #293395jficquetteParticipantShannon,
If you ever become one of the ones who actually pays significant income taxes then you might have a different prespective on what “spreading the wealth” really means.
You won’t have to worry about testing kids under Obama in elementary schools to assign their future paths because Minorties would test worst then Whites and would be assigned to lower status careers.
As far as me being a conservative. If you knew what a conservative really was then you wouldn’t call me that. Conservatives want government too. I want to get rid of it.
John
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