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March 9, 2010 at 8:55 PM #523813March 9, 2010 at 8:59 PM #523681
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hey, since the government is majority GM shareholder, right? so the question is how did Obama sneak into this guy’s garage and alter the electronic system.[/quote]March 9, 2010 at 8:59 PM #524258Participant[quote=ocrenter]
hey, since the government is majority GM shareholder, right? so the question is how did Obama sneak into this guy’s garage and alter the electronic system.[/quote]March 9, 2010 at 8:59 PM #524355Participant[quote=ocrenter]
hey, since the government is majority GM shareholder, right? so the question is how did Obama sneak into this guy’s garage and alter the electronic system.[/quote]March 9, 2010 at 8:59 PM #523818Participant[quote=ocrenter]
hey, since the government is majority GM shareholder, right? so the question is how did Obama sneak into this guy’s garage and alter the electronic system.[/quote]March 9, 2010 at 8:59 PM #524612Participant[quote=ocrenter]
hey, since the government is majority GM shareholder, right? so the question is how did Obama sneak into this guy’s garage and alter the electronic system.[/quote]March 9, 2010 at 9:14 PM #524365
CoronitaParticipant[quote=equalizer][quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.
BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.
Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.
Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.
Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?[/quote]Because they toaster-type run-of-the-mill cars are built with the cheapest designs as possible, and it’s really no different than any other car manufacturer that play in this level. I’m sure most cars that are DBW don’t have throttle cutoff when brakes are applied including domestics (yet). Things are about to change.
Germans probably put this in their cars ahead of everyone else, because the old audi 5000 scare. Those Audi 5000 sales got slaughtered after what 60 minutes did…Too bad I can’t find a ur-quattro at a discount. Those things were bad-ass.
March 9, 2010 at 9:14 PM #523828CoronitaParticipant[quote=equalizer][quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.
BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.
Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.
Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.
Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?[/quote]Because they toaster-type run-of-the-mill cars are built with the cheapest designs as possible, and it’s really no different than any other car manufacturer that play in this level. I’m sure most cars that are DBW don’t have throttle cutoff when brakes are applied including domestics (yet). Things are about to change.
Germans probably put this in their cars ahead of everyone else, because the old audi 5000 scare. Those Audi 5000 sales got slaughtered after what 60 minutes did…Too bad I can’t find a ur-quattro at a discount. Those things were bad-ass.
March 9, 2010 at 9:14 PM #524622CoronitaParticipant[quote=equalizer][quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.
BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.
Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.
Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.
Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?[/quote]Because they toaster-type run-of-the-mill cars are built with the cheapest designs as possible, and it’s really no different than any other car manufacturer that play in this level. I’m sure most cars that are DBW don’t have throttle cutoff when brakes are applied including domestics (yet). Things are about to change.
Germans probably put this in their cars ahead of everyone else, because the old audi 5000 scare. Those Audi 5000 sales got slaughtered after what 60 minutes did…Too bad I can’t find a ur-quattro at a discount. Those things were bad-ass.
March 9, 2010 at 9:14 PM #524268CoronitaParticipant[quote=equalizer][quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.
BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.
Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.
Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.
Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?[/quote]Because they toaster-type run-of-the-mill cars are built with the cheapest designs as possible, and it’s really no different than any other car manufacturer that play in this level. I’m sure most cars that are DBW don’t have throttle cutoff when brakes are applied including domestics (yet). Things are about to change.
Germans probably put this in their cars ahead of everyone else, because the old audi 5000 scare. Those Audi 5000 sales got slaughtered after what 60 minutes did…Too bad I can’t find a ur-quattro at a discount. Those things were bad-ass.
March 9, 2010 at 9:14 PM #523691CoronitaParticipant[quote=equalizer][quote=flu]Lol. I think it’s not just toyota. A good percentage of cars are all DBW..Must euro has been DBW for some time.
BTW:
ABCnews is to toyota as 60 minutes was to Audi 5000 a few years ago.I wouldn’t call a “professor” from a school heavily funded from Government Motors, wiring a shunt resistor between two lines that are intended to be separate, to artificially accelerate a car, to have much credibility…though, I do think toyota’s got some problems with the software.
Basically, this problem is to complicated for someone who doesn’t have access to the code to find the “cause”…Everyone else claiming to know what the problem is just a media attention whore at this point.
Folks, here’s my prediction. Car prices across the board are about to plummet….Toyota is going to give steep discounts off of their cars, and extend warranties to something ridiculous….just to keep sales numbers afloat. It will ridiculous pricing…GM/Ford/Chyrsler/Honda/Hyundai etc will have no choice but to follow through…It’s going to be a race to the bottom.
Still waiting for that 2011 redesigned Ford Edge to cost less than what the outgoing 2010 model will be…(Glad I didn’t buy a 2010)…[/quote]
Agree that ABC report is lame, but there may be problem here that is difficult to duplicate.
Is everyone who stated that accelator stuck mistaken or outright lying? Did that guy in the Prius the other day make the whole thing up? Why doesn’t Toyota update system to have brakes cut acceleration signals like German cars supposedly do?[/quote]Because they toaster-type run-of-the-mill cars are built with the cheapest designs as possible, and it’s really no different than any other car manufacturer that play in this level. I’m sure most cars that are DBW don’t have throttle cutoff when brakes are applied including domestics (yet). Things are about to change.
Germans probably put this in their cars ahead of everyone else, because the old audi 5000 scare. Those Audi 5000 sales got slaughtered after what 60 minutes did…Too bad I can’t find a ur-quattro at a discount. Those things were bad-ass.
March 9, 2010 at 9:52 PM #524652Participant[quote]I’m sure most cars that are DBW don’t have throttle cutoff when brakes are applied including domestics (yet). Things are about to change.[/quote]
All German cars have it, and they had it at least since 2000. Newest Toyotas and Lexuses have it (unfortunately, neither the Lexus that crashed in Santee last year, nor the Prius that made headline news this week, were new enough). I’m not sure about domestics and other Japanese brands.
The puzzling question is why it’s not a universal feature. All modern cars already have brake sensors that report to the ECU (that’s how the ECU knows to cancel cruise control when you step on the brake). It’s only a matter of programming.
March 9, 2010 at 9:52 PM #524395Participant[quote]I’m sure most cars that are DBW don’t have throttle cutoff when brakes are applied including domestics (yet). Things are about to change.[/quote]
All German cars have it, and they had it at least since 2000. Newest Toyotas and Lexuses have it (unfortunately, neither the Lexus that crashed in Santee last year, nor the Prius that made headline news this week, were new enough). I’m not sure about domestics and other Japanese brands.
The puzzling question is why it’s not a universal feature. All modern cars already have brake sensors that report to the ECU (that’s how the ECU knows to cancel cruise control when you step on the brake). It’s only a matter of programming.
March 9, 2010 at 9:52 PM #524299Participant[quote]I’m sure most cars that are DBW don’t have throttle cutoff when brakes are applied including domestics (yet). Things are about to change.[/quote]
All German cars have it, and they had it at least since 2000. Newest Toyotas and Lexuses have it (unfortunately, neither the Lexus that crashed in Santee last year, nor the Prius that made headline news this week, were new enough). I’m not sure about domestics and other Japanese brands.
The puzzling question is why it’s not a universal feature. All modern cars already have brake sensors that report to the ECU (that’s how the ECU knows to cancel cruise control when you step on the brake). It’s only a matter of programming.
March 9, 2010 at 9:52 PM #523858Participant[quote]I’m sure most cars that are DBW don’t have throttle cutoff when brakes are applied including domestics (yet). Things are about to change.[/quote]
All German cars have it, and they had it at least since 2000. Newest Toyotas and Lexuses have it (unfortunately, neither the Lexus that crashed in Santee last year, nor the Prius that made headline news this week, were new enough). I’m not sure about domestics and other Japanese brands.
The puzzling question is why it’s not a universal feature. All modern cars already have brake sensors that report to the ECU (that’s how the ECU knows to cancel cruise control when you step on the brake). It’s only a matter of programming.
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