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January 11, 2011 at 9:52 AM #652342January 11, 2011 at 9:52 AM #651233
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ParticipantThe talk of Asian students pushed to suicide reminded me of the kid a year ahead of me in high school. White kid. Class valedictorian. Committed suicide when he wasn’t accepted to Harvard. Parents have been pressuring kids to succeed for a long time.
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You can argue that students can succeed going to Clairemont high school all you want (and I would agree with you), but nobody will listen to you.[/quote]What’s wrong with Clairemont High? I went there. I wasn’t valedictorian and went to SDSU not ivy… but I don’t think I’m a failure.
January 11, 2011 at 9:52 AM #651301ParticipantThe talk of Asian students pushed to suicide reminded me of the kid a year ahead of me in high school. White kid. Class valedictorian. Committed suicide when he wasn’t accepted to Harvard. Parents have been pressuring kids to succeed for a long time.
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You can argue that students can succeed going to Clairemont high school all you want (and I would agree with you), but nobody will listen to you.[/quote]What’s wrong with Clairemont High? I went there. I wasn’t valedictorian and went to SDSU not ivy… but I don’t think I’m a failure.
January 11, 2011 at 9:52 AM #651882ParticipantThe talk of Asian students pushed to suicide reminded me of the kid a year ahead of me in high school. White kid. Class valedictorian. Committed suicide when he wasn’t accepted to Harvard. Parents have been pressuring kids to succeed for a long time.
[quote=briansd1]
You can argue that students can succeed going to Clairemont high school all you want (and I would agree with you), but nobody will listen to you.[/quote]What’s wrong with Clairemont High? I went there. I wasn’t valedictorian and went to SDSU not ivy… but I don’t think I’m a failure.
January 11, 2011 at 9:52 AM #652018ParticipantThe talk of Asian students pushed to suicide reminded me of the kid a year ahead of me in high school. White kid. Class valedictorian. Committed suicide when he wasn’t accepted to Harvard. Parents have been pressuring kids to succeed for a long time.
[quote=briansd1]
You can argue that students can succeed going to Clairemont high school all you want (and I would agree with you), but nobody will listen to you.[/quote]What’s wrong with Clairemont High? I went there. I wasn’t valedictorian and went to SDSU not ivy… but I don’t think I’m a failure.
January 11, 2011 at 9:52 AM #652347ParticipantThe talk of Asian students pushed to suicide reminded me of the kid a year ahead of me in high school. White kid. Class valedictorian. Committed suicide when he wasn’t accepted to Harvard. Parents have been pressuring kids to succeed for a long time.
[quote=briansd1]
You can argue that students can succeed going to Clairemont high school all you want (and I would agree with you), but nobody will listen to you.[/quote]What’s wrong with Clairemont High? I went there. I wasn’t valedictorian and went to SDSU not ivy… but I don’t think I’m a failure.
January 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM #651213sdduuuude
Participant[quote=nocommonsense]On the other hand, look around, how many of your main stream non-asian managers are “creative” and “good with people”. Give me a break.[/quote]
Please make sure you don’t put words in my mouth. I never said “good with people”
In addition to creative, I said
“who knows how to get others to work hard”,
“to secure funding for a project”
“manage others ”
“social”
“friendly”
“persuasive”
“tactful”Those are all specific skills you don’t learn by tucking yourself in a corner.
I used the term “creative” not in reference to a managerial position, but as a nod to positions that are design-related instead of implementation-related.
January 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM #651281Participant[quote=nocommonsense]On the other hand, look around, how many of your main stream non-asian managers are “creative” and “good with people”. Give me a break.[/quote]
Please make sure you don’t put words in my mouth. I never said “good with people”
In addition to creative, I said
“who knows how to get others to work hard”,
“to secure funding for a project”
“manage others ”
“social”
“friendly”
“persuasive”
“tactful”Those are all specific skills you don’t learn by tucking yourself in a corner.
I used the term “creative” not in reference to a managerial position, but as a nod to positions that are design-related instead of implementation-related.
January 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM #651862Participant[quote=nocommonsense]On the other hand, look around, how many of your main stream non-asian managers are “creative” and “good with people”. Give me a break.[/quote]
Please make sure you don’t put words in my mouth. I never said “good with people”
In addition to creative, I said
“who knows how to get others to work hard”,
“to secure funding for a project”
“manage others ”
“social”
“friendly”
“persuasive”
“tactful”Those are all specific skills you don’t learn by tucking yourself in a corner.
I used the term “creative” not in reference to a managerial position, but as a nod to positions that are design-related instead of implementation-related.
January 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM #651998Participant[quote=nocommonsense]On the other hand, look around, how many of your main stream non-asian managers are “creative” and “good with people”. Give me a break.[/quote]
Please make sure you don’t put words in my mouth. I never said “good with people”
In addition to creative, I said
“who knows how to get others to work hard”,
“to secure funding for a project”
“manage others ”
“social”
“friendly”
“persuasive”
“tactful”Those are all specific skills you don’t learn by tucking yourself in a corner.
I used the term “creative” not in reference to a managerial position, but as a nod to positions that are design-related instead of implementation-related.
January 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM #652327Participant[quote=nocommonsense]On the other hand, look around, how many of your main stream non-asian managers are “creative” and “good with people”. Give me a break.[/quote]
Please make sure you don’t put words in my mouth. I never said “good with people”
In addition to creative, I said
“who knows how to get others to work hard”,
“to secure funding for a project”
“manage others ”
“social”
“friendly”
“persuasive”
“tactful”Those are all specific skills you don’t learn by tucking yourself in a corner.
I used the term “creative” not in reference to a managerial position, but as a nod to positions that are design-related instead of implementation-related.
January 11, 2011 at 9:56 AM #651238Participant[quote=nocommonsense]The hyperthetical “asian” in your example WILL have a much lower chance EVEN if he has all those people skills.[/quote]
Agree with you on this, but the fact is the DON’T have the people skills because of the focus of their education.
January 11, 2011 at 9:56 AM #651306Participant[quote=nocommonsense]The hyperthetical “asian” in your example WILL have a much lower chance EVEN if he has all those people skills.[/quote]
Agree with you on this, but the fact is the DON’T have the people skills because of the focus of their education.
January 11, 2011 at 9:56 AM #651887Participant[quote=nocommonsense]The hyperthetical “asian” in your example WILL have a much lower chance EVEN if he has all those people skills.[/quote]
Agree with you on this, but the fact is the DON’T have the people skills because of the focus of their education.
January 11, 2011 at 9:56 AM #652023Participant[quote=nocommonsense]The hyperthetical “asian” in your example WILL have a much lower chance EVEN if he has all those people skills.[/quote]
Agree with you on this, but the fact is the DON’T have the people skills because of the focus of their education.
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