OT: Wow HP….

[Coronita]

Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.

SAN FRANCISCO — The computer maker, Hewlett-Packard, has gone to court to try and stop its former chief executive, Mark V. Hurd, from joining a rival, Oracle.

H.P. filed a lawsuit Tuesday in a California state court.

Late on Monday, Oracle announced that Mr. Hurd had joined the company as a president and a director. Mr. Hurd resigned from H.P. one month ago, after an investigation by the board into a personal relationship with a contractor turned up questionable expense reports.

Oracle’s chief executive and largest shareholder, Lawrence J. Ellison, a personal friend of Mr. Hurd’s, had criticized H.P.’s board last month in an e-mail message, saying it was “the worst personnel decision since the idiots on the Apple board fired Steve Jobs many years ago.”

Oracle’s decision to hire Mr. Hurd presented Silicon Valley with a true soap opera, filled with fierce business dealings and saucy relationships.

H.P. has long been one of Oracle’s largest partners in the business computing market. H.P. sells the computer servers and storage systems that customers use to run Oracle’s database software. But Oracle has just acquired Sun Microsystems, one of H.P.’s longtime rivals in the hardware market.

Oracle has, in particular, used Sun’s technology to build a new line of data warehousing systems that can sort through huge volumes of information like sales trends, pricing and inventory levels.

Before joining H.P. as its chief executive in 2005, Mr. Hurd was chief executive of NCR, which had the leading data warehousing technology.

He arrived in Silicon Valley five years ago, seeking to prove himself as a chief executive on the biggest stage.

He succeeded in that respect by pushing H.P. past I.B.M. as the largest technology company and turning in some of the most consistent financial results in the industry.

But Mr. Hurd’s time at the top came crashing down after H.P.’s board began investigating sexual harassment claims presented by Jodie Fisher, a former contractor.

The company discovered that Mr. Hurd authorized paying Ms. Fisher, a 50-year-old former actress in sexually charged films who had also posed for Playboy in college, to attend gatherings with H.P.’s top customers.

H.P. found no evidence of sexual harassment, but said Mr. Hurd had tried to conceal a personal relationship with Ms. Fisher by removing her name from his expenses for meals.

Mr. Hurd settled with Ms. Fisher for an undisclosed sum and fought H.P.’s decision to make the sexual harassment claims public.

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…

[UCGal]

[quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…[/quote]

Heh…CA?…Lol…..The article is dead on… In CA, good luck with that one HP… I think Hurd won’t give a rat’s axx about losing all/part of that that golden parachute, because I’m sure ellison will make him an even wealthier person.
The burden of proof will be on HP…What it will boil down to is who has the more snazzy legal team, which I must say Oracle wins that comparison hands down in that category.

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…[/quote]

Heh…CA?…Lol…..The article is dead on… In CA, good luck with that one HP… I think Hurd won’t give a rat’s axx about losing all/part of that that golden parachute, because I’m sure ellison will make him an even wealthier person.
The burden of proof will be on HP…What it will boil down to is who has the more snazzy legal team, which I must say Oracle wins that comparison hands down in that category.

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…[/quote]

Heh…CA?…Lol…..The article is dead on… In CA, good luck with that one HP… I think Hurd won’t give a rat’s axx about losing all/part of that that golden parachute, because I’m sure ellison will make him an even wealthier person.
The burden of proof will be on HP…What it will boil down to is who has the more snazzy legal team, which I must say Oracle wins that comparison hands down in that category.

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…[/quote]

Heh…CA?…Lol…..The article is dead on… In CA, good luck with that one HP… I think Hurd won’t give a rat’s axx about losing all/part of that that golden parachute, because I’m sure ellison will make him an even wealthier person.
The burden of proof will be on HP…What it will boil down to is who has the more snazzy legal team, which I must say Oracle wins that comparison hands down in that category.

[Coronita]

[quote=UCGal][quote=flu]Lol… HP once again demonstrating it’s retardedness.
Dude, you asked the guy to leave.
[/quote]

That doesn’t free him from non-disclosure agreements… which in this case may limit him working for a direct competitor.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/07/technology/HP_Hurd/

..snip
HP (HPQ, Fortune 500) doesn’t appear to have had an explicit non-compete clause in its employment contact with Hurd, who stepped down last month in the wake of a sex scandal. Such clauses are typically very hard to enforce in California, where Hurd lives and where both companies are based.

But it did have confidentiality agreements that Hurd signed annually, and the $12.2 million severance deal he struck requires him to continue abiding by those agreements. Those trade-secret “protective covenants,” quoted in HP’s lawsuit, require that for 12 months after leaving HP, Hurd refrain from “conflicting business activities” with HP rivals that would result in the disclosure of confidential information.

… snip
Hurd’s confidentiality agreement also prohibits him from communicating on behalf of an HP rival with any HP customer he had business contact with in the past two years. But because of California’s employee-friendly non-compete rules, the deal has an exemption: As long as Hurd remains a California resident, he can have any contact he wants with customers that isn’t made with the “unauthorized assistance” of confidential HP information.

… snip
Hurd’s insider access: HP’s lawsuit alleges that Hurd, along with the rest of HP’s board of directors, received a “highly competitive internal analysis of Oracle” in March. It noted that Hurd was in charge of developing strategic plans “to compete against HP’s competitors, including Oracle.”

HP’s complaint also blasted Hurd for “failure to provide notice of [his new position] before it was publicly announced by Oracle.”

I’ve had to sign non-disclosure agreements with most of my employers (and one time, a non-compete that was a *^&*^ to get out of.) I’m just a lowly engineer – but I checked the language of my current agreement – it talks about notifying my (current) employer if I take a job with a competitor… so it’s not surprising that Hurd had that restriction.

He may end up having to give up some of that parachute…[/quote]

Heh…CA?…Lol…..The article is dead on… In CA, good luck with that one HP… I think Hurd won’t give a rat’s axx about losing all/part of that that golden parachute, because I’m sure ellison will make him an even wealthier person.
The burden of proof will be on HP…What it will boil down to is who has the more snazzy legal team, which I must say Oracle wins that comparison hands down in that category.

[UCGal]

So…

Just curious…

Is it ethical/ok/admirable that Hurd lied on his expense reports to cover up an affair?

Is it ethical/ok/admirable that Hurd dismisses his contractual obligations of his non-disclosure agreement?

I know you’re a fan, flu… but I’m thinking this guy is pretty slimy. Based 100% on the events of the past few months. Maybe he really is an upright, honest, guy… but I wouldn’t want to do business with him because he seems to play fast/lose with facts and contracts.

[UCGal]

So…

Just curious…

Is it ethical/ok/admirable that Hurd lied on his expense reports to cover up an affair?

Is it ethical/ok/admirable that Hurd dismisses his contractual obligations of his non-disclosure agreement?

I know you’re a fan, flu… but I’m thinking this guy is pretty slimy. Based 100% on the events of the past few months. Maybe he really is an upright, honest, guy… but I wouldn’t want to do business with him because he seems to play fast/lose with facts and contracts.

[UCGal]

So…

Just curious…

Is it ethical/ok/admirable that Hurd lied on his expense reports to cover up an affair?

Is it ethical/ok/admirable that Hurd dismisses his contractual obligations of his non-disclosure agreement?

I know you’re a fan, flu… but I’m thinking this guy is pretty slimy. Based 100% on the events of the past few months. Maybe he really is an upright, honest, guy… but I wouldn’t want to do business with him because he seems to play fast/lose with facts and contracts.

[UCGal]

So…

Just curious…

Is it ethical/ok/admirable that Hurd lied on his expense reports to cover up an affair?

Is it ethical/ok/admirable that Hurd dismisses his contractual obligations of his non-disclosure agreement?

I know you’re a fan, flu… but I’m thinking this guy is pretty slimy. Based 100% on the events of the past few months. Maybe he really is an upright, honest, guy… but I wouldn’t want to do business with him because he seems to play fast/lose with facts and contracts.

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