OT Wine Recommendation Thread

[sdrealtor]

Ditto on Wine Exchange in the OC. They have much better wine stores there. Add the Wine Club (in Santa Ana) and Amazing Grapes to the list.

Ditto the Melville also though the 2007’s were much better as were all the others. It was a very good year.

Ditto The layer Cake.

CDMA-the Barolo’s really need to decant for a several hours before drinking. They can even be much better on Day 2.

Ditto all of Josh’s comments except SDwineCo (disclaimer-where I dont shop anymore either), while they arent as great place as they used to be, they are still very good for newbies because you can taste there. Costco is great if you know what you want but you cant taste there which hurts the newbie.

[davelj]

[quote=Eugene][quote=davelj]
On that topic:

“The Complexities of Wine Tasting – Even the Experts can be Fooled”

http://newworldwine.suite101.com/article.cfm/becoming_an_expert_wine_taster_part_one%5B/quote%5D

[quote]Calvin Trillin wrote an essay for The New Yorker a few years ago that described a blind tasting among wine experts in which red and white wines were served in black glasses, so the color of the wine was hidden. Trillin gloated that the experts could not always tell the difference between red and white wines.[/quote]

I have to call B.S. I personally did a blind testing experiment like that. Differences are obvious and hard to miss. And I’m hardly an expert.[/quote]

Despite problems of journalistic ethics from various media outlets in recent years, I seriously doubt Calvin Trillin (of all people) just made this story up.

And apparently there is a lot of similar corroborating research out there that disputes purported wine expertise:

http://www.mountainspiritwinery.com/2006/12/exposing-those-wine-snobs-out-there.html

I’m no expert… just sayin’.

[davelj]

[quote=Eugene][quote=davelj]
On that topic:

“The Complexities of Wine Tasting – Even the Experts can be Fooled”

http://newworldwine.suite101.com/article.cfm/becoming_an_expert_wine_taster_part_one%5B/quote%5D

[quote]Calvin Trillin wrote an essay for The New Yorker a few years ago that described a blind tasting among wine experts in which red and white wines were served in black glasses, so the color of the wine was hidden. Trillin gloated that the experts could not always tell the difference between red and white wines.[/quote]

I have to call B.S. I personally did a blind testing experiment like that. Differences are obvious and hard to miss. And I’m hardly an expert.[/quote]

Despite problems of journalistic ethics from various media outlets in recent years, I seriously doubt Calvin Trillin (of all people) just made this story up.

And apparently there is a lot of similar corroborating research out there that disputes purported wine expertise:

http://www.mountainspiritwinery.com/2006/12/exposing-those-wine-snobs-out-there.html

I’m no expert… just sayin’.

[davelj]

[quote=Eugene][quote=davelj]
On that topic:

“The Complexities of Wine Tasting – Even the Experts can be Fooled”

http://newworldwine.suite101.com/article.cfm/becoming_an_expert_wine_taster_part_one%5B/quote%5D

[quote]Calvin Trillin wrote an essay for The New Yorker a few years ago that described a blind tasting among wine experts in which red and white wines were served in black glasses, so the color of the wine was hidden. Trillin gloated that the experts could not always tell the difference between red and white wines.[/quote]

I have to call B.S. I personally did a blind testing experiment like that. Differences are obvious and hard to miss. And I’m hardly an expert.[/quote]

Despite problems of journalistic ethics from various media outlets in recent years, I seriously doubt Calvin Trillin (of all people) just made this story up.

And apparently there is a lot of similar corroborating research out there that disputes purported wine expertise:

http://www.mountainspiritwinery.com/2006/12/exposing-those-wine-snobs-out-there.html

I’m no expert… just sayin’.

[davelj]

[quote=Eugene][quote=davelj]
On that topic:

“The Complexities of Wine Tasting – Even the Experts can be Fooled”

http://newworldwine.suite101.com/article.cfm/becoming_an_expert_wine_taster_part_one%5B/quote%5D

[quote]Calvin Trillin wrote an essay for The New Yorker a few years ago that described a blind tasting among wine experts in which red and white wines were served in black glasses, so the color of the wine was hidden. Trillin gloated that the experts could not always tell the difference between red and white wines.[/quote]

I have to call B.S. I personally did a blind testing experiment like that. Differences are obvious and hard to miss. And I’m hardly an expert.[/quote]

Despite problems of journalistic ethics from various media outlets in recent years, I seriously doubt Calvin Trillin (of all people) just made this story up.

And apparently there is a lot of similar corroborating research out there that disputes purported wine expertise:

http://www.mountainspiritwinery.com/2006/12/exposing-those-wine-snobs-out-there.html

I’m no expert… just sayin’.

[davelj]

[quote=Eugene][quote=davelj]
On that topic:

“The Complexities of Wine Tasting – Even the Experts can be Fooled”

http://newworldwine.suite101.com/article.cfm/becoming_an_expert_wine_taster_part_one%5B/quote%5D

[quote]Calvin Trillin wrote an essay for The New Yorker a few years ago that described a blind tasting among wine experts in which red and white wines were served in black glasses, so the color of the wine was hidden. Trillin gloated that the experts could not always tell the difference between red and white wines.[/quote]

I have to call B.S. I personally did a blind testing experiment like that. Differences are obvious and hard to miss. And I’m hardly an expert.[/quote]

Despite problems of journalistic ethics from various media outlets in recent years, I seriously doubt Calvin Trillin (of all people) just made this story up.

And apparently there is a lot of similar corroborating research out there that disputes purported wine expertise:

http://www.mountainspiritwinery.com/2006/12/exposing-those-wine-snobs-out-there.html

I’m no expert… just sayin’.

[barnaby33]

The problem is basically you both make valid points. There is a lot of expensive crappy wine out there. There is also a lot of decent wine that doesn’t cost a lot. What is decent and what is crap is all in the eye of the beholder. Too much emphasis is given on expert ratings. I’ve never read a wine speculator, not even once. I’ve never read Parker either. I’d prefer to figure out what I like on my own.

I’ve found the easiest way to do that is to join a tasting group. Mine meets every Friday at Vintage wines at 5. Its because of this group that I know what I do. Half the fun is disagreeing.
Josh

[barnaby33]

The problem is basically you both make valid points. There is a lot of expensive crappy wine out there. There is also a lot of decent wine that doesn’t cost a lot. What is decent and what is crap is all in the eye of the beholder. Too much emphasis is given on expert ratings. I’ve never read a wine speculator, not even once. I’ve never read Parker either. I’d prefer to figure out what I like on my own.

I’ve found the easiest way to do that is to join a tasting group. Mine meets every Friday at Vintage wines at 5. Its because of this group that I know what I do. Half the fun is disagreeing.
Josh

[barnaby33]

The problem is basically you both make valid points. There is a lot of expensive crappy wine out there. There is also a lot of decent wine that doesn’t cost a lot. What is decent and what is crap is all in the eye of the beholder. Too much emphasis is given on expert ratings. I’ve never read a wine speculator, not even once. I’ve never read Parker either. I’d prefer to figure out what I like on my own.

I’ve found the easiest way to do that is to join a tasting group. Mine meets every Friday at Vintage wines at 5. Its because of this group that I know what I do. Half the fun is disagreeing.
Josh

[barnaby33]

The problem is basically you both make valid points. There is a lot of expensive crappy wine out there. There is also a lot of decent wine that doesn’t cost a lot. What is decent and what is crap is all in the eye of the beholder. Too much emphasis is given on expert ratings. I’ve never read a wine speculator, not even once. I’ve never read Parker either. I’d prefer to figure out what I like on my own.

I’ve found the easiest way to do that is to join a tasting group. Mine meets every Friday at Vintage wines at 5. Its because of this group that I know what I do. Half the fun is disagreeing.
Josh

[barnaby33]

The problem is basically you both make valid points. There is a lot of expensive crappy wine out there. There is also a lot of decent wine that doesn’t cost a lot. What is decent and what is crap is all in the eye of the beholder. Too much emphasis is given on expert ratings. I’ve never read a wine speculator, not even once. I’ve never read Parker either. I’d prefer to figure out what I like on my own.

I’ve found the easiest way to do that is to join a tasting group. Mine meets every Friday at Vintage wines at 5. Its because of this group that I know what I do. Half the fun is disagreeing.
Josh

[nocommonsense]

[quote=Russell]Maybe I missed this question in the thread? Has anyone drank wine that they, or a non-expert friend made that was pretty good? How many tries did it take them? How much did they make?

Does anyone like blackberry wine? I just googled it and some review of a Mogen David was very complimentary. Curious, because I planted a bunch of blackberries. They have the potential to produce well the second year.[/quote]

In fact, I did and love it. The local Bevmo in Carmel Mountain Ranch carries a kind of Kosher blackberry wine for ~$4 a bottle. It tastes great to me but might be a bit too sweet for most of the wine snobs here 🙂 I also love the concord grape version, both having at least 40% juice in it so says the labels.

I also love dessert wines. The australian muscat at Costco is very very good.

[nocommonsense]

[quote=Russell]Maybe I missed this question in the thread? Has anyone drank wine that they, or a non-expert friend made that was pretty good? How many tries did it take them? How much did they make?

Does anyone like blackberry wine? I just googled it and some review of a Mogen David was very complimentary. Curious, because I planted a bunch of blackberries. They have the potential to produce well the second year.[/quote]

In fact, I did and love it. The local Bevmo in Carmel Mountain Ranch carries a kind of Kosher blackberry wine for ~$4 a bottle. It tastes great to me but might be a bit too sweet for most of the wine snobs here 🙂 I also love the concord grape version, both having at least 40% juice in it so says the labels.

I also love dessert wines. The australian muscat at Costco is very very good.

[nocommonsense]

[quote=Russell]Maybe I missed this question in the thread? Has anyone drank wine that they, or a non-expert friend made that was pretty good? How many tries did it take them? How much did they make?

Does anyone like blackberry wine? I just googled it and some review of a Mogen David was very complimentary. Curious, because I planted a bunch of blackberries. They have the potential to produce well the second year.[/quote]

In fact, I did and love it. The local Bevmo in Carmel Mountain Ranch carries a kind of Kosher blackberry wine for ~$4 a bottle. It tastes great to me but might be a bit too sweet for most of the wine snobs here 🙂 I also love the concord grape version, both having at least 40% juice in it so says the labels.

I also love dessert wines. The australian muscat at Costco is very very good.

[nocommonsense]

[quote=Russell]Maybe I missed this question in the thread? Has anyone drank wine that they, or a non-expert friend made that was pretty good? How many tries did it take them? How much did they make?

Does anyone like blackberry wine? I just googled it and some review of a Mogen David was very complimentary. Curious, because I planted a bunch of blackberries. They have the potential to produce well the second year.[/quote]

In fact, I did and love it. The local Bevmo in Carmel Mountain Ranch carries a kind of Kosher blackberry wine for ~$4 a bottle. It tastes great to me but might be a bit too sweet for most of the wine snobs here 🙂 I also love the concord grape version, both having at least 40% juice in it so says the labels.

I also love dessert wines. The australian muscat at Costco is very very good.

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