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February 21, 2015 at 6:11 PM #21418February 21, 2015 at 6:52 PM #783231
spdrun
ParticipantActually, the problem was that the teens were driving around in a pickup truck when driving was banned due to a blizzard (that never actually happened). The cop told them that they could do their thing after the storm was over the next day. No ticket, no arrest, I think the cop wanted to be seen as having responded to the call without going nuts on anyone.
BTW, the cop only also showed up because some tout called the police and snitched on the teens. Shame on the snitching little busybody, hope they slip on some ice and bust their nose…
February 21, 2015 at 7:48 PM #783232scaredyclassic
ParticipantLike selling cigs. On the street. If they persist in breaking the law, they will be choked. Obey or die.
February 21, 2015 at 11:34 PM #783235CA renter
ParticipantFrom flu’s link:
“Jannone said his department has no interest in cracking down on kids who want to shovel sidewalks or driveways. The law was made for transient scam artists who prey on the vulnerable, he said.
“The spirit of the ordinance is to protect residents from gypsy activity. People will solicit door to door and target the elderly and get into their house,” he said.”
Seems pretty reasonable to me.
February 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM #783236Participantgypsy activity
So non-Romani solicitors are acceptable? The law is f**king idiotic, BTW. There are already burglary laws to be used against people who force their way into houses.
February 22, 2015 at 8:43 AM #783237ParticipantArrest girl scouts and parents
February 22, 2015 at 12:27 PM #783239FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=scaredyclassic]Arrest girl scouts and parents[/quote]
haha..
These days with cell phones, it’s a little unsettling to get someone ringing your door bell. Are door bells still useful? People are supposed to call and announce themselves first.February 22, 2015 at 1:07 PM #783240pencilneck
ParticipantBut why is panhandling not so restricted?
Panhandling is generally seen as a freedom of speech. Ironically, working (or attempting to work) is not. This bothers me a bit on principle.
February 22, 2015 at 2:52 PM #783241Participanthaha..
These days with cell phones, it’s a little unsettling to get someone ringing your door bell. Are door bells still useful? People are supposed to call and announce themselves first.Pressing a button on a door frame takes a second. Calling on the cell phone when you arrive at someone’s house: get electronic leash out, find contact or dial number, call or write text…
February 22, 2015 at 10:22 PM #783245Participant[quote=spdrun]
haha..
These days with cell phones, it’s a little unsettling to get someone ringing your door bell. Are door bells still useful? People are supposed to call and announce themselves first.Pressing a button on a door frame takes a second. Calling on the cell phone when you arrive at someone’s house: get electronic leash out, find contact or dial number, call or write text…[/quote]
People should call **before** dropping by to make sure that they aren’t interrupting people’s activities.
Personally, I dislike it when people “drop by” unexpectedly. It’s rude and shows a disregard for other people’s privacy and personal time/space. If we aren’t expecting someone, we don’t even answer the door.
Lots of burglaries and home invasion robberies happen under the guise of “innocent” door-to-door solicitation. IMO, it should be illegal.
February 22, 2015 at 10:43 PM #783246ParticipantNo, it shouldn’t be illegal. Burglary and home invasion should be illegal … oh wait. THEY ARE!
How many houses are burgled by people who politely come to the door and ring the bell? How common are “home invasions?” Statistics please… betting that the last thing that most burglars want to deal with is an irate homeowner, possibly holding a weapon.
It’s your right not to answer the door, or even disconnect the doorbell. But it’s disgusting that you support making something illegal just because of your personal preferences and fears. While I agree with a lot of what you say, your “law and order” attitude is frankly nausea-inducing.
No, there oughtn’t be a law, generally speaking. And I’d NEVER call the cops on someone who knocks on my door and offers a service. There’s no worse type of human being in my book than a do-gooder snitch who rats on people who aren’t actually hurting anyone, even if they’re technically breaking some asinine law or other.
Burglary in progress? Violent crime? You bet I’d call the cops. But not for a couple kids going door to door trying to make a few shekels. Anyone who works independently rather than (say) at some crummy fast-food joint for a multinational mega corp should be applauded, not arrested.
February 23, 2015 at 6:56 AM #783247ParticipantYou’d have to criminalize knocking on doors because the home invader could have a false noncommercial purpose. Could be knocking on the door for directions, or to convert you to a new religion or something … it’s not the business purpose alone that’s a problem it’s the approach to the door.
We could solve the problem by changing the law to make it OK to shoot and kill anyone within the curtilage of your home.
But that has some problems.
Alternatively we could mandate locked fencing around home entryways.
Personally I assume anyone unknown at my door has a nefarious purpose and am prepared to kill if necessary. However if you open the door with gun in hand you are likely guilty of assault with a deadly weapon. No one should open the door to a stranger.
February 23, 2015 at 7:10 AM #783248
CoronitaParticipantScardey.
If there’s some random person knocking on my door.
I make sure they know I’m home, but I don’t answer the door. I make sure they know someone is home so they don’t try to break in, if they are looking to do that. But even if I am home, I’m not obligated to open my door for any of the solicitors. I never do. They can knock as long as they want, if they so choose. The door stays closed. Just like I don’t answer phone callsfor which I don’t recognize the phone numbers from caller id. If it’s important enough, they’ll leave a messageFebruary 23, 2015 at 7:18 AM #783249ParticipantPerhaps a cool device would be an automatic recording that plays by speaker when the doorbell is rung:
The police have been automatically contacted. They are on their way. You are in violation of penal code 602 a trespass. Please lie down and put your hands on yr. Head.
February 23, 2015 at 8:32 AM #783250ParticipantWhen I get rich, I’m buying all of you Fox Police Locks for every door in your house, two Rottweilers, and an Uzi-carrying patrol robot. It sounds like you live in such dangerous, terrifying areas that you need all the help you can get. When I get as rich as Bill Gates, I’ll also help pay for moats and drawbridges.
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