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February 12, 2009 at 8:54 AM #15038February 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM #344965
rnen
ParticipantI had this discussion with my very liberal sister inlaw. IMHO having 8 more kids when you have 6 at home, 3 of which are special needs, and have no way to support them is not only irresponsible but selfish beyond words. She was quite taken aback by the remark, her reply being ” so only the wealthy should have kids?”
Beyond the money, coming from a family of 9 kids I can tell you that the competition for attention creates a challenge for both the parents and the kids. How can she possibly provide a resonable amount of attention to each of her children???
It is a tough issue, we can not just cut her loose and have the innocent children she so selfishly brought into this world suffer yet I am not sure we should go so far as to enforce child quotas.
It does chap my ass that the CA tax payer is going to end up paying the way for these kids just because this woman clearly has some mental issues.
An arguement could be made for putting the 8 up for adoption as IMHO she is not going to be able to care for them.
Ughhh…. getting ready to take some knocks for the last remark.
February 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM #345289ParticipantI had this discussion with my very liberal sister inlaw. IMHO having 8 more kids when you have 6 at home, 3 of which are special needs, and have no way to support them is not only irresponsible but selfish beyond words. She was quite taken aback by the remark, her reply being ” so only the wealthy should have kids?”
Beyond the money, coming from a family of 9 kids I can tell you that the competition for attention creates a challenge for both the parents and the kids. How can she possibly provide a resonable amount of attention to each of her children???
It is a tough issue, we can not just cut her loose and have the innocent children she so selfishly brought into this world suffer yet I am not sure we should go so far as to enforce child quotas.
It does chap my ass that the CA tax payer is going to end up paying the way for these kids just because this woman clearly has some mental issues.
An arguement could be made for putting the 8 up for adoption as IMHO she is not going to be able to care for them.
Ughhh…. getting ready to take some knocks for the last remark.
February 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM #345396ParticipantI had this discussion with my very liberal sister inlaw. IMHO having 8 more kids when you have 6 at home, 3 of which are special needs, and have no way to support them is not only irresponsible but selfish beyond words. She was quite taken aback by the remark, her reply being ” so only the wealthy should have kids?”
Beyond the money, coming from a family of 9 kids I can tell you that the competition for attention creates a challenge for both the parents and the kids. How can she possibly provide a resonable amount of attention to each of her children???
It is a tough issue, we can not just cut her loose and have the innocent children she so selfishly brought into this world suffer yet I am not sure we should go so far as to enforce child quotas.
It does chap my ass that the CA tax payer is going to end up paying the way for these kids just because this woman clearly has some mental issues.
An arguement could be made for putting the 8 up for adoption as IMHO she is not going to be able to care for them.
Ughhh…. getting ready to take some knocks for the last remark.
February 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM #345430ParticipantI had this discussion with my very liberal sister inlaw. IMHO having 8 more kids when you have 6 at home, 3 of which are special needs, and have no way to support them is not only irresponsible but selfish beyond words. She was quite taken aback by the remark, her reply being ” so only the wealthy should have kids?”
Beyond the money, coming from a family of 9 kids I can tell you that the competition for attention creates a challenge for both the parents and the kids. How can she possibly provide a resonable amount of attention to each of her children???
It is a tough issue, we can not just cut her loose and have the innocent children she so selfishly brought into this world suffer yet I am not sure we should go so far as to enforce child quotas.
It does chap my ass that the CA tax payer is going to end up paying the way for these kids just because this woman clearly has some mental issues.
An arguement could be made for putting the 8 up for adoption as IMHO she is not going to be able to care for them.
Ughhh…. getting ready to take some knocks for the last remark.
February 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM #345529ParticipantI had this discussion with my very liberal sister inlaw. IMHO having 8 more kids when you have 6 at home, 3 of which are special needs, and have no way to support them is not only irresponsible but selfish beyond words. She was quite taken aback by the remark, her reply being ” so only the wealthy should have kids?”
Beyond the money, coming from a family of 9 kids I can tell you that the competition for attention creates a challenge for both the parents and the kids. How can she possibly provide a resonable amount of attention to each of her children???
It is a tough issue, we can not just cut her loose and have the innocent children she so selfishly brought into this world suffer yet I am not sure we should go so far as to enforce child quotas.
It does chap my ass that the CA tax payer is going to end up paying the way for these kids just because this woman clearly has some mental issues.
An arguement could be made for putting the 8 up for adoption as IMHO she is not going to be able to care for them.
Ughhh…. getting ready to take some knocks for the last remark.
February 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM #344976teatsonabull
ParticipantI want her to have my baby!
February 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM #345300ParticipantI want her to have my baby!
February 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM #345407ParticipantI want her to have my baby!
February 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM #345441ParticipantI want her to have my baby!
February 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM #345540ParticipantI want her to have my baby!
February 12, 2009 at 10:29 AM #344981San Diego RE Bear
ParticipantI suspect she’ll make a lot of money from interviews, book deals and I’m guessing a future reality show. Rumor has it she was already paid $300,000 for one morning program show. The more irresponsible the story maker the more money they pay them which is just disgusting.
That said, I hope the hospital (who has asked for help from CA in paying her costs) goes after the money for her bills as does the insurance company and later Soc Sec in the some $150,000 in disability payments she received for a “bad back” while popping out 14 kids. Yes, she’d been on disability since 2001.
Once all her bills are paid and the insurance fraud lawsuit settled and time served for insurance fraud is completed, she can keep the leftover money and try to raise the kids. I don’t think the state has any right to take her children away if she is providing for them. And if she’s smart she’ll be able to.
But while I don’t believe we have a right to take people’s kids away because we disagree with their “choices,” we certainly have a right to make a moral judgement on them. And I consider this a very, very immoral, selfish woman. She’s a criminal – stealing from the state for false disability (also student loans used for IVF.) I had a bad back for six weeks a few months ago. It was agony. I could barely drive and carrying one baby much less eight babies at once would not have considered, I was in too much pain. If you can pop out 14 kids you can work. (Be aware there may be medical realities I am unaware of and I am not a doctor so that statement may be very false.) But I don’t think there’s a job out there that the average woman does that would be 1/10th the work of caring for 14 babies under the age of 8. She’s a bad mother – one person can’t give enough attention to 14 small children, they just can’t. Find me a day care center that has a 14 to one ratio with well over half the kids being babies. And she’s bad because with 3 special needs kids already she created a situation where some huge percentage of the newbies are going to have developmental problems. You just can’t have a litter that large and babies that small without future problems.
My understanding is that when she was released from the hospital she sat down to do an interview BEFORE going to see her other 6 kids. I think that says it all.
The sad thing is I refuse to watch any of the interviews or shows about her but I still know all this. Sickening how such a freak show gains so much importance while the average person can’t tell you why the economy imploded and how many of the “solutions” will make it worse. One good thing about a truly harsh correction is maybe we’ll stop rewading people like this who make absolutely stupid decisions that are “human interest.” Because you just know something is thinking “how can I carry 9 babies at once. They’re so cute!”
February 12, 2009 at 10:29 AM #345305ParticipantI suspect she’ll make a lot of money from interviews, book deals and I’m guessing a future reality show. Rumor has it she was already paid $300,000 for one morning program show. The more irresponsible the story maker the more money they pay them which is just disgusting.
That said, I hope the hospital (who has asked for help from CA in paying her costs) goes after the money for her bills as does the insurance company and later Soc Sec in the some $150,000 in disability payments she received for a “bad back” while popping out 14 kids. Yes, she’d been on disability since 2001.
Once all her bills are paid and the insurance fraud lawsuit settled and time served for insurance fraud is completed, she can keep the leftover money and try to raise the kids. I don’t think the state has any right to take her children away if she is providing for them. And if she’s smart she’ll be able to.
But while I don’t believe we have a right to take people’s kids away because we disagree with their “choices,” we certainly have a right to make a moral judgement on them. And I consider this a very, very immoral, selfish woman. She’s a criminal – stealing from the state for false disability (also student loans used for IVF.) I had a bad back for six weeks a few months ago. It was agony. I could barely drive and carrying one baby much less eight babies at once would not have considered, I was in too much pain. If you can pop out 14 kids you can work. (Be aware there may be medical realities I am unaware of and I am not a doctor so that statement may be very false.) But I don’t think there’s a job out there that the average woman does that would be 1/10th the work of caring for 14 babies under the age of 8. She’s a bad mother – one person can’t give enough attention to 14 small children, they just can’t. Find me a day care center that has a 14 to one ratio with well over half the kids being babies. And she’s bad because with 3 special needs kids already she created a situation where some huge percentage of the newbies are going to have developmental problems. You just can’t have a litter that large and babies that small without future problems.
My understanding is that when she was released from the hospital she sat down to do an interview BEFORE going to see her other 6 kids. I think that says it all.
The sad thing is I refuse to watch any of the interviews or shows about her but I still know all this. Sickening how such a freak show gains so much importance while the average person can’t tell you why the economy imploded and how many of the “solutions” will make it worse. One good thing about a truly harsh correction is maybe we’ll stop rewading people like this who make absolutely stupid decisions that are “human interest.” Because you just know something is thinking “how can I carry 9 babies at once. They’re so cute!”
February 12, 2009 at 10:29 AM #345412ParticipantI suspect she’ll make a lot of money from interviews, book deals and I’m guessing a future reality show. Rumor has it she was already paid $300,000 for one morning program show. The more irresponsible the story maker the more money they pay them which is just disgusting.
That said, I hope the hospital (who has asked for help from CA in paying her costs) goes after the money for her bills as does the insurance company and later Soc Sec in the some $150,000 in disability payments she received for a “bad back” while popping out 14 kids. Yes, she’d been on disability since 2001.
Once all her bills are paid and the insurance fraud lawsuit settled and time served for insurance fraud is completed, she can keep the leftover money and try to raise the kids. I don’t think the state has any right to take her children away if she is providing for them. And if she’s smart she’ll be able to.
But while I don’t believe we have a right to take people’s kids away because we disagree with their “choices,” we certainly have a right to make a moral judgement on them. And I consider this a very, very immoral, selfish woman. She’s a criminal – stealing from the state for false disability (also student loans used for IVF.) I had a bad back for six weeks a few months ago. It was agony. I could barely drive and carrying one baby much less eight babies at once would not have considered, I was in too much pain. If you can pop out 14 kids you can work. (Be aware there may be medical realities I am unaware of and I am not a doctor so that statement may be very false.) But I don’t think there’s a job out there that the average woman does that would be 1/10th the work of caring for 14 babies under the age of 8. She’s a bad mother – one person can’t give enough attention to 14 small children, they just can’t. Find me a day care center that has a 14 to one ratio with well over half the kids being babies. And she’s bad because with 3 special needs kids already she created a situation where some huge percentage of the newbies are going to have developmental problems. You just can’t have a litter that large and babies that small without future problems.
My understanding is that when she was released from the hospital she sat down to do an interview BEFORE going to see her other 6 kids. I think that says it all.
The sad thing is I refuse to watch any of the interviews or shows about her but I still know all this. Sickening how such a freak show gains so much importance while the average person can’t tell you why the economy imploded and how many of the “solutions” will make it worse. One good thing about a truly harsh correction is maybe we’ll stop rewading people like this who make absolutely stupid decisions that are “human interest.” Because you just know something is thinking “how can I carry 9 babies at once. They’re so cute!”
February 12, 2009 at 10:29 AM #345446ParticipantI suspect she’ll make a lot of money from interviews, book deals and I’m guessing a future reality show. Rumor has it she was already paid $300,000 for one morning program show. The more irresponsible the story maker the more money they pay them which is just disgusting.
That said, I hope the hospital (who has asked for help from CA in paying her costs) goes after the money for her bills as does the insurance company and later Soc Sec in the some $150,000 in disability payments she received for a “bad back” while popping out 14 kids. Yes, she’d been on disability since 2001.
Once all her bills are paid and the insurance fraud lawsuit settled and time served for insurance fraud is completed, she can keep the leftover money and try to raise the kids. I don’t think the state has any right to take her children away if she is providing for them. And if she’s smart she’ll be able to.
But while I don’t believe we have a right to take people’s kids away because we disagree with their “choices,” we certainly have a right to make a moral judgement on them. And I consider this a very, very immoral, selfish woman. She’s a criminal – stealing from the state for false disability (also student loans used for IVF.) I had a bad back for six weeks a few months ago. It was agony. I could barely drive and carrying one baby much less eight babies at once would not have considered, I was in too much pain. If you can pop out 14 kids you can work. (Be aware there may be medical realities I am unaware of and I am not a doctor so that statement may be very false.) But I don’t think there’s a job out there that the average woman does that would be 1/10th the work of caring for 14 babies under the age of 8. She’s a bad mother – one person can’t give enough attention to 14 small children, they just can’t. Find me a day care center that has a 14 to one ratio with well over half the kids being babies. And she’s bad because with 3 special needs kids already she created a situation where some huge percentage of the newbies are going to have developmental problems. You just can’t have a litter that large and babies that small without future problems.
My understanding is that when she was released from the hospital she sat down to do an interview BEFORE going to see her other 6 kids. I think that says it all.
The sad thing is I refuse to watch any of the interviews or shows about her but I still know all this. Sickening how such a freak show gains so much importance while the average person can’t tell you why the economy imploded and how many of the “solutions” will make it worse. One good thing about a truly harsh correction is maybe we’ll stop rewading people like this who make absolutely stupid decisions that are “human interest.” Because you just know something is thinking “how can I carry 9 babies at once. They’re so cute!”
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