OT – War #3?

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that the US will intervene militarily in Lybia.

The no fly zone seems late. Khadafi has pretty much retaken the whole country.[/quote]
I am content for the U.S. to sit this one out.

Let the countries that often feel we are too aggressive or impulsive take a shot. Let Italy or France spend lives and treasure.

I think we can credibly say we have our hands full at the moment.

Also, folks always seem to talk about how easy things are going to be before we get involved, then they become messy and more complex real quick.

A no fly zone *is* late and would not be cheap nor without casualties and other consequences.

If the argument is “We need to go in to save the people from a dictator” then we are overdue in many other countries in the world simultaneously right now.

Allan’s idea on another thread of lobbing a few SLCM’s I could support I guess if it were likely to do more harm than good. In making that evaluation though I’d want TPTB to consider the impact in other countries besides just Libya and to try to consider say the 5-year picture.

[Eugene]

From what I read, the US has no intention of getting into that one. It’s mostly locals such as France.

Overall, Americans are probably better off with Qaddafi in charge. If rebels take over, that might mean 5 years of civil war and unpredictable interruptions in oil supplies.

[Eugene]

From what I read, the US has no intention of getting into that one. It’s mostly locals such as France.

Overall, Americans are probably better off with Qaddafi in charge. If rebels take over, that might mean 5 years of civil war and unpredictable interruptions in oil supplies.

[Eugene]

From what I read, the US has no intention of getting into that one. It’s mostly locals such as France.

Overall, Americans are probably better off with Qaddafi in charge. If rebels take over, that might mean 5 years of civil war and unpredictable interruptions in oil supplies.

[Eugene]

From what I read, the US has no intention of getting into that one. It’s mostly locals such as France.

Overall, Americans are probably better off with Qaddafi in charge. If rebels take over, that might mean 5 years of civil war and unpredictable interruptions in oil supplies.

[Eugene]

From what I read, the US has no intention of getting into that one. It’s mostly locals such as France.

Overall, Americans are probably better off with Qaddafi in charge. If rebels take over, that might mean 5 years of civil war and unpredictable interruptions in oil supplies.

[DataAgent]

I agree Eugene. And it looks like Gadhafi may have blinked:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/18/libya.civil.war/index.html?hpt=C1

[DataAgent]

I agree Eugene. And it looks like Gadhafi may have blinked:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/18/libya.civil.war/index.html?hpt=C1

[DataAgent]

I agree Eugene. And it looks like Gadhafi may have blinked:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/18/libya.civil.war/index.html?hpt=C1

[DataAgent]

I agree Eugene. And it looks like Gadhafi may have blinked:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/18/libya.civil.war/index.html?hpt=C1

[DataAgent]

I agree Eugene. And it looks like Gadhafi may have blinked:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/18/libya.civil.war/index.html?hpt=C1

[ocrenter]

This intervention is different than going in and taking out a dictator. here we have a people rising up and ultimately hoping help would arrive once they do rise up. So the intervention is important.

But we definitely can’t own this one, we just can’t afford it.

I think the US knew we have the upper hand in forcing the Europeans to take charge for once. The Europeans were faced with a tidal wave of refugees. let’s just assume eastern libya has a population of 2 million, if kadafi takes over, the majority will try to escape, mostly across the border to egypt, but a large amount across to Italy and France. and then we will have to deal with a huge refugee camp much like the gaza strip except on egyptian soil. where are those going to end up? right across to Italy and France over the next 10 years.

The Europeans were forced to act, they own this and they should.

I think we played this one beautifully.

[ocrenter]

This intervention is different than going in and taking out a dictator. here we have a people rising up and ultimately hoping help would arrive once they do rise up. So the intervention is important.

But we definitely can’t own this one, we just can’t afford it.

I think the US knew we have the upper hand in forcing the Europeans to take charge for once. The Europeans were faced with a tidal wave of refugees. let’s just assume eastern libya has a population of 2 million, if kadafi takes over, the majority will try to escape, mostly across the border to egypt, but a large amount across to Italy and France. and then we will have to deal with a huge refugee camp much like the gaza strip except on egyptian soil. where are those going to end up? right across to Italy and France over the next 10 years.

The Europeans were forced to act, they own this and they should.

I think we played this one beautifully.

[ocrenter]

This intervention is different than going in and taking out a dictator. here we have a people rising up and ultimately hoping help would arrive once they do rise up. So the intervention is important.

But we definitely can’t own this one, we just can’t afford it.

I think the US knew we have the upper hand in forcing the Europeans to take charge for once. The Europeans were faced with a tidal wave of refugees. let’s just assume eastern libya has a population of 2 million, if kadafi takes over, the majority will try to escape, mostly across the border to egypt, but a large amount across to Italy and France. and then we will have to deal with a huge refugee camp much like the gaza strip except on egyptian soil. where are those going to end up? right across to Italy and France over the next 10 years.

The Europeans were forced to act, they own this and they should.

I think we played this one beautifully.

[ocrenter]

This intervention is different than going in and taking out a dictator. here we have a people rising up and ultimately hoping help would arrive once they do rise up. So the intervention is important.

But we definitely can’t own this one, we just can’t afford it.

I think the US knew we have the upper hand in forcing the Europeans to take charge for once. The Europeans were faced with a tidal wave of refugees. let’s just assume eastern libya has a population of 2 million, if kadafi takes over, the majority will try to escape, mostly across the border to egypt, but a large amount across to Italy and France. and then we will have to deal with a huge refugee camp much like the gaza strip except on egyptian soil. where are those going to end up? right across to Italy and France over the next 10 years.

The Europeans were forced to act, they own this and they should.

I think we played this one beautifully.

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