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June 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM #222791June 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM #222647CA renterParticipant
Those of us who espouse a more liberal approach tend to be against extreme concentrations of wealth, which concentrates power, which concentrates wealth…
Once you have a large amount of money, earning money is no longer about hard work or productivity; it’s about being a financial parasite, because whatever you “earn” comes out of the productive economy.
BTW, there are some good debates about what brought us out of the Great Depression (and good debates about what got us there, too!). Most of the people I’ve talked to — who actually lived through it — give credit to FDR and his New Deal programs. Most of his programs worked to funnel money back to working people/regular citizens, because the credit bubble of the 1920s also showed the disparity in wealth we see today. Coincidence??? I think not.
The war enabled many unemployed men (and women) to work for the military and removed them from the job-seeking pool in the U.S. At the same time, the build-up of the “war machine” (building tanks, bombs, planes, ships, subs, artillery, and all the goods and services needed to support the war) brought a lot of jobs on-line. It certainly helped, but it was not alone in lifting the U.S. out of the depression. The bottom of the business/credit cycle was reached, and things were cheap, and bad debt and waste were largely eliminated by that point. It’s only natural that things would go up from there.
June 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM #222751CA renterParticipantThose of us who espouse a more liberal approach tend to be against extreme concentrations of wealth, which concentrates power, which concentrates wealth…
Once you have a large amount of money, earning money is no longer about hard work or productivity; it’s about being a financial parasite, because whatever you “earn” comes out of the productive economy.
BTW, there are some good debates about what brought us out of the Great Depression (and good debates about what got us there, too!). Most of the people I’ve talked to — who actually lived through it — give credit to FDR and his New Deal programs. Most of his programs worked to funnel money back to working people/regular citizens, because the credit bubble of the 1920s also showed the disparity in wealth we see today. Coincidence??? I think not.
The war enabled many unemployed men (and women) to work for the military and removed them from the job-seeking pool in the U.S. At the same time, the build-up of the “war machine” (building tanks, bombs, planes, ships, subs, artillery, and all the goods and services needed to support the war) brought a lot of jobs on-line. It certainly helped, but it was not alone in lifting the U.S. out of the depression. The bottom of the business/credit cycle was reached, and things were cheap, and bad debt and waste were largely eliminated by that point. It’s only natural that things would go up from there.
June 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM #222763CA renterParticipantThose of us who espouse a more liberal approach tend to be against extreme concentrations of wealth, which concentrates power, which concentrates wealth…
Once you have a large amount of money, earning money is no longer about hard work or productivity; it’s about being a financial parasite, because whatever you “earn” comes out of the productive economy.
BTW, there are some good debates about what brought us out of the Great Depression (and good debates about what got us there, too!). Most of the people I’ve talked to — who actually lived through it — give credit to FDR and his New Deal programs. Most of his programs worked to funnel money back to working people/regular citizens, because the credit bubble of the 1920s also showed the disparity in wealth we see today. Coincidence??? I think not.
The war enabled many unemployed men (and women) to work for the military and removed them from the job-seeking pool in the U.S. At the same time, the build-up of the “war machine” (building tanks, bombs, planes, ships, subs, artillery, and all the goods and services needed to support the war) brought a lot of jobs on-line. It certainly helped, but it was not alone in lifting the U.S. out of the depression. The bottom of the business/credit cycle was reached, and things were cheap, and bad debt and waste were largely eliminated by that point. It’s only natural that things would go up from there.
June 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM #222795CA renterParticipantThose of us who espouse a more liberal approach tend to be against extreme concentrations of wealth, which concentrates power, which concentrates wealth…
Once you have a large amount of money, earning money is no longer about hard work or productivity; it’s about being a financial parasite, because whatever you “earn” comes out of the productive economy.
BTW, there are some good debates about what brought us out of the Great Depression (and good debates about what got us there, too!). Most of the people I’ve talked to — who actually lived through it — give credit to FDR and his New Deal programs. Most of his programs worked to funnel money back to working people/regular citizens, because the credit bubble of the 1920s also showed the disparity in wealth we see today. Coincidence??? I think not.
The war enabled many unemployed men (and women) to work for the military and removed them from the job-seeking pool in the U.S. At the same time, the build-up of the “war machine” (building tanks, bombs, planes, ships, subs, artillery, and all the goods and services needed to support the war) brought a lot of jobs on-line. It certainly helped, but it was not alone in lifting the U.S. out of the depression. The bottom of the business/credit cycle was reached, and things were cheap, and bad debt and waste were largely eliminated by that point. It’s only natural that things would go up from there.
June 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM #222811CA renterParticipantThose of us who espouse a more liberal approach tend to be against extreme concentrations of wealth, which concentrates power, which concentrates wealth…
Once you have a large amount of money, earning money is no longer about hard work or productivity; it’s about being a financial parasite, because whatever you “earn” comes out of the productive economy.
BTW, there are some good debates about what brought us out of the Great Depression (and good debates about what got us there, too!). Most of the people I’ve talked to — who actually lived through it — give credit to FDR and his New Deal programs. Most of his programs worked to funnel money back to working people/regular citizens, because the credit bubble of the 1920s also showed the disparity in wealth we see today. Coincidence??? I think not.
The war enabled many unemployed men (and women) to work for the military and removed them from the job-seeking pool in the U.S. At the same time, the build-up of the “war machine” (building tanks, bombs, planes, ships, subs, artillery, and all the goods and services needed to support the war) brought a lot of jobs on-line. It certainly helped, but it was not alone in lifting the U.S. out of the depression. The bottom of the business/credit cycle was reached, and things were cheap, and bad debt and waste were largely eliminated by that point. It’s only natural that things would go up from there.
June 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM #222649blahblahblahParticipantAnyone smart enough to get into those institution will get a free education. And yes, even rich people’s kids have to have the grades to get in to those universities, and it helps that mommy and daddy send money…
EXACTLY! There’s more of THAT CLEAR THINKING that we all ADMIRE SO MUCH! EVERYONE who goes to Yale and Harvard is an EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT! Out of the many TENS OF THOUSANDS of applicants, THEY ONLY TAKE THE VERY VERY BEST! They have to have the grades to get in! Why just take a look at THESE FINE YALE MEN!. Surely there were no better, more qualified students to be found anywhere in the US. If you can’t succeed on your own merit in the US, then you couldn’t do it anywhere in the world and you are A LOSER! LOOOOOOOSSSUURRH!
June 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM #222754blahblahblahParticipantAnyone smart enough to get into those institution will get a free education. And yes, even rich people’s kids have to have the grades to get in to those universities, and it helps that mommy and daddy send money…
EXACTLY! There’s more of THAT CLEAR THINKING that we all ADMIRE SO MUCH! EVERYONE who goes to Yale and Harvard is an EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT! Out of the many TENS OF THOUSANDS of applicants, THEY ONLY TAKE THE VERY VERY BEST! They have to have the grades to get in! Why just take a look at THESE FINE YALE MEN!. Surely there were no better, more qualified students to be found anywhere in the US. If you can’t succeed on your own merit in the US, then you couldn’t do it anywhere in the world and you are A LOSER! LOOOOOOOSSSUURRH!
June 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM #222768blahblahblahParticipantAnyone smart enough to get into those institution will get a free education. And yes, even rich people’s kids have to have the grades to get in to those universities, and it helps that mommy and daddy send money…
EXACTLY! There’s more of THAT CLEAR THINKING that we all ADMIRE SO MUCH! EVERYONE who goes to Yale and Harvard is an EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT! Out of the many TENS OF THOUSANDS of applicants, THEY ONLY TAKE THE VERY VERY BEST! They have to have the grades to get in! Why just take a look at THESE FINE YALE MEN!. Surely there were no better, more qualified students to be found anywhere in the US. If you can’t succeed on your own merit in the US, then you couldn’t do it anywhere in the world and you are A LOSER! LOOOOOOOSSSUURRH!
June 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM #222800blahblahblahParticipantAnyone smart enough to get into those institution will get a free education. And yes, even rich people’s kids have to have the grades to get in to those universities, and it helps that mommy and daddy send money…
EXACTLY! There’s more of THAT CLEAR THINKING that we all ADMIRE SO MUCH! EVERYONE who goes to Yale and Harvard is an EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT! Out of the many TENS OF THOUSANDS of applicants, THEY ONLY TAKE THE VERY VERY BEST! They have to have the grades to get in! Why just take a look at THESE FINE YALE MEN!. Surely there were no better, more qualified students to be found anywhere in the US. If you can’t succeed on your own merit in the US, then you couldn’t do it anywhere in the world and you are A LOSER! LOOOOOOOSSSUURRH!
June 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM #222815blahblahblahParticipantAnyone smart enough to get into those institution will get a free education. And yes, even rich people’s kids have to have the grades to get in to those universities, and it helps that mommy and daddy send money…
EXACTLY! There’s more of THAT CLEAR THINKING that we all ADMIRE SO MUCH! EVERYONE who goes to Yale and Harvard is an EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT! Out of the many TENS OF THOUSANDS of applicants, THEY ONLY TAKE THE VERY VERY BEST! They have to have the grades to get in! Why just take a look at THESE FINE YALE MEN!. Surely there were no better, more qualified students to be found anywhere in the US. If you can’t succeed on your own merit in the US, then you couldn’t do it anywhere in the world and you are A LOSER! LOOOOOOOSSSUURRH!
June 13, 2008 at 4:38 PM #222655afx114ParticipantLet us also not forget that the current leader of the free world got to where he is because of his his family and their money, not his merits. And look what it has gotten us: the largest growth in income disparity in a long time. If that’s not a strong argument against aristocracy, then I don’t know what is.
June 13, 2008 at 4:38 PM #222759afx114ParticipantLet us also not forget that the current leader of the free world got to where he is because of his his family and their money, not his merits. And look what it has gotten us: the largest growth in income disparity in a long time. If that’s not a strong argument against aristocracy, then I don’t know what is.
June 13, 2008 at 4:38 PM #222773afx114ParticipantLet us also not forget that the current leader of the free world got to where he is because of his his family and their money, not his merits. And look what it has gotten us: the largest growth in income disparity in a long time. If that’s not a strong argument against aristocracy, then I don’t know what is.
June 13, 2008 at 4:38 PM #222806afx114ParticipantLet us also not forget that the current leader of the free world got to where he is because of his his family and their money, not his merits. And look what it has gotten us: the largest growth in income disparity in a long time. If that’s not a strong argument against aristocracy, then I don’t know what is.
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