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February 4, 2010 at 4:47 PM #510101February 4, 2010 at 9:00 PM #509327svelteParticipant
Here’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.
February 4, 2010 at 9:00 PM #509473svelteParticipantHere’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.
February 4, 2010 at 9:00 PM #509886svelteParticipantHere’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.
February 4, 2010 at 9:00 PM #509978svelteParticipantHere’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.
February 4, 2010 at 9:00 PM #510232svelteParticipantHere’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.
February 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM #509342CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]Here’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.[/quote]
I think it will be worse for dual clutch transmissions . Personally, I like them,..But that much electronics and hollow driveshafts…I don’t know….
Direct injection is also going to be interesting…Some tests are already coming in that the oil is hosed, so to speak. Audi owners get all the luxury of finding out firsthand, because Audi likes to introduce these things.
*I think they populated CVT with the B6 A4 Front Trak before nissan.
*Then they introduced DSG from Borg-Wagner
*And then they introduced FSI…..Some interesting finds from oil analysis from RS4’s….
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1325647
I’ve been posting on Audi FSI engines for some time now, and have discussed my oil analysis and issues with FSI engine fuel dilution impact on wear and deposit formation. Well, we now have confirmation of the oil-induced deposit formation issues with FSI engines.
Here’s a direct quote from an RS4 owner who is also a Mechanical Engineer.
Quote:
A little over a month ago, had the car in for CEL, misfires, etc. They found bad injectors, replaced them and the car runs fine now. They also found the buildup on the intake valves that been talked about here. I was able to briefly look at it while they were cleaning them, but wasn’t really able to inspect them. Well, I took the manifold off myself this weekend because I was bored and felt like wrenching on my car. It obvious from the intake ports and intake manifold that there is quite a bit of oil vapor in the intake air stream. Which is typical, especially on high performance engines. There is a light oily film on the manifold port (and flaps) leading directly into the cylinder head as well as in the port itself. The closer you get to the valves, the film is more tacky and in some places, almost hard. But not like dry flakes. IMO, the oil vapor entrained in the air stream just clings to the valves and sticks because the valves are relatively hot. Its not “carbon” buildup due to combustion, its oil film buildup thats not effectively cleaned by fuel since the engine is direct injected, not port injected. The RS4 has an elaborate crankcase ventilation system equipped with a 3-stage venturi cyclone to help remove the oil particles. Obviously it doesn’t separate all the oil out. I don’t think some buildup would be out of the ordinary on these engines. The valve in the pic was the worst and its been roughly 800 miles since the dealer cleaned them.Quote:
After my $70k car’s performance went down the gutter (the first oil change after the break in), I dug into it. I do various data logs almost every day. I plot the info and try to notice certain trends. After a while, things become clear but after you see your intake valves crudded up beyond belief and then in bad shape again only 800 miles later, it becomes obvious. The volatized oil creates buildup, which constantly breaks apart, which enters the combustion chamber, then adheres to injectors, which disrupts flow patterns and/or causes injector damage, which leads to poor economy and performance and fuel leakage into the chamber, that leads to cold start misfires and damaged coils. The buildup also drastically affects airflow into the engine. Dealers are good at replacing the coils, but bad at persisting to find what the root cause is. Its so ironic that the RS4 community thinks that my car is an exception just because I took the time to unveil an obvious problem. I would bet that 80% of them are having the same issues. Its really a shame, because the 4.2 FSI is going to get a bad wrap when its truly a masterpiece. I ordered 5gal of the RLI 5W40 and will be monitoring the intake valve buildup since I have no problem taking my manifold off to see what’s going on.IMO fuel dilution is the root cause for increased volatization and breakdown of the oil. 10 year oil Audi/VW formulations, designed to deal with engine sludge, do not stand up to fuel breakdown and end up as deposits on the valves, combustion chamber and injectors.
February 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM #509488CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]Here’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.[/quote]
I think it will be worse for dual clutch transmissions . Personally, I like them,..But that much electronics and hollow driveshafts…I don’t know….
Direct injection is also going to be interesting…Some tests are already coming in that the oil is hosed, so to speak. Audi owners get all the luxury of finding out firsthand, because Audi likes to introduce these things.
*I think they populated CVT with the B6 A4 Front Trak before nissan.
*Then they introduced DSG from Borg-Wagner
*And then they introduced FSI…..Some interesting finds from oil analysis from RS4’s….
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1325647
I’ve been posting on Audi FSI engines for some time now, and have discussed my oil analysis and issues with FSI engine fuel dilution impact on wear and deposit formation. Well, we now have confirmation of the oil-induced deposit formation issues with FSI engines.
Here’s a direct quote from an RS4 owner who is also a Mechanical Engineer.
Quote:
A little over a month ago, had the car in for CEL, misfires, etc. They found bad injectors, replaced them and the car runs fine now. They also found the buildup on the intake valves that been talked about here. I was able to briefly look at it while they were cleaning them, but wasn’t really able to inspect them. Well, I took the manifold off myself this weekend because I was bored and felt like wrenching on my car. It obvious from the intake ports and intake manifold that there is quite a bit of oil vapor in the intake air stream. Which is typical, especially on high performance engines. There is a light oily film on the manifold port (and flaps) leading directly into the cylinder head as well as in the port itself. The closer you get to the valves, the film is more tacky and in some places, almost hard. But not like dry flakes. IMO, the oil vapor entrained in the air stream just clings to the valves and sticks because the valves are relatively hot. Its not “carbon” buildup due to combustion, its oil film buildup thats not effectively cleaned by fuel since the engine is direct injected, not port injected. The RS4 has an elaborate crankcase ventilation system equipped with a 3-stage venturi cyclone to help remove the oil particles. Obviously it doesn’t separate all the oil out. I don’t think some buildup would be out of the ordinary on these engines. The valve in the pic was the worst and its been roughly 800 miles since the dealer cleaned them.Quote:
After my $70k car’s performance went down the gutter (the first oil change after the break in), I dug into it. I do various data logs almost every day. I plot the info and try to notice certain trends. After a while, things become clear but after you see your intake valves crudded up beyond belief and then in bad shape again only 800 miles later, it becomes obvious. The volatized oil creates buildup, which constantly breaks apart, which enters the combustion chamber, then adheres to injectors, which disrupts flow patterns and/or causes injector damage, which leads to poor economy and performance and fuel leakage into the chamber, that leads to cold start misfires and damaged coils. The buildup also drastically affects airflow into the engine. Dealers are good at replacing the coils, but bad at persisting to find what the root cause is. Its so ironic that the RS4 community thinks that my car is an exception just because I took the time to unveil an obvious problem. I would bet that 80% of them are having the same issues. Its really a shame, because the 4.2 FSI is going to get a bad wrap when its truly a masterpiece. I ordered 5gal of the RLI 5W40 and will be monitoring the intake valve buildup since I have no problem taking my manifold off to see what’s going on.IMO fuel dilution is the root cause for increased volatization and breakdown of the oil. 10 year oil Audi/VW formulations, designed to deal with engine sludge, do not stand up to fuel breakdown and end up as deposits on the valves, combustion chamber and injectors.
February 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM #509901CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]Here’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.[/quote]
I think it will be worse for dual clutch transmissions . Personally, I like them,..But that much electronics and hollow driveshafts…I don’t know….
Direct injection is also going to be interesting…Some tests are already coming in that the oil is hosed, so to speak. Audi owners get all the luxury of finding out firsthand, because Audi likes to introduce these things.
*I think they populated CVT with the B6 A4 Front Trak before nissan.
*Then they introduced DSG from Borg-Wagner
*And then they introduced FSI…..Some interesting finds from oil analysis from RS4’s….
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1325647
I’ve been posting on Audi FSI engines for some time now, and have discussed my oil analysis and issues with FSI engine fuel dilution impact on wear and deposit formation. Well, we now have confirmation of the oil-induced deposit formation issues with FSI engines.
Here’s a direct quote from an RS4 owner who is also a Mechanical Engineer.
Quote:
A little over a month ago, had the car in for CEL, misfires, etc. They found bad injectors, replaced them and the car runs fine now. They also found the buildup on the intake valves that been talked about here. I was able to briefly look at it while they were cleaning them, but wasn’t really able to inspect them. Well, I took the manifold off myself this weekend because I was bored and felt like wrenching on my car. It obvious from the intake ports and intake manifold that there is quite a bit of oil vapor in the intake air stream. Which is typical, especially on high performance engines. There is a light oily film on the manifold port (and flaps) leading directly into the cylinder head as well as in the port itself. The closer you get to the valves, the film is more tacky and in some places, almost hard. But not like dry flakes. IMO, the oil vapor entrained in the air stream just clings to the valves and sticks because the valves are relatively hot. Its not “carbon” buildup due to combustion, its oil film buildup thats not effectively cleaned by fuel since the engine is direct injected, not port injected. The RS4 has an elaborate crankcase ventilation system equipped with a 3-stage venturi cyclone to help remove the oil particles. Obviously it doesn’t separate all the oil out. I don’t think some buildup would be out of the ordinary on these engines. The valve in the pic was the worst and its been roughly 800 miles since the dealer cleaned them.Quote:
After my $70k car’s performance went down the gutter (the first oil change after the break in), I dug into it. I do various data logs almost every day. I plot the info and try to notice certain trends. After a while, things become clear but after you see your intake valves crudded up beyond belief and then in bad shape again only 800 miles later, it becomes obvious. The volatized oil creates buildup, which constantly breaks apart, which enters the combustion chamber, then adheres to injectors, which disrupts flow patterns and/or causes injector damage, which leads to poor economy and performance and fuel leakage into the chamber, that leads to cold start misfires and damaged coils. The buildup also drastically affects airflow into the engine. Dealers are good at replacing the coils, but bad at persisting to find what the root cause is. Its so ironic that the RS4 community thinks that my car is an exception just because I took the time to unveil an obvious problem. I would bet that 80% of them are having the same issues. Its really a shame, because the 4.2 FSI is going to get a bad wrap when its truly a masterpiece. I ordered 5gal of the RLI 5W40 and will be monitoring the intake valve buildup since I have no problem taking my manifold off to see what’s going on.IMO fuel dilution is the root cause for increased volatization and breakdown of the oil. 10 year oil Audi/VW formulations, designed to deal with engine sludge, do not stand up to fuel breakdown and end up as deposits on the valves, combustion chamber and injectors.
February 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM #509994CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]Here’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.[/quote]
I think it will be worse for dual clutch transmissions . Personally, I like them,..But that much electronics and hollow driveshafts…I don’t know….
Direct injection is also going to be interesting…Some tests are already coming in that the oil is hosed, so to speak. Audi owners get all the luxury of finding out firsthand, because Audi likes to introduce these things.
*I think they populated CVT with the B6 A4 Front Trak before nissan.
*Then they introduced DSG from Borg-Wagner
*And then they introduced FSI…..Some interesting finds from oil analysis from RS4’s….
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1325647
I’ve been posting on Audi FSI engines for some time now, and have discussed my oil analysis and issues with FSI engine fuel dilution impact on wear and deposit formation. Well, we now have confirmation of the oil-induced deposit formation issues with FSI engines.
Here’s a direct quote from an RS4 owner who is also a Mechanical Engineer.
Quote:
A little over a month ago, had the car in for CEL, misfires, etc. They found bad injectors, replaced them and the car runs fine now. They also found the buildup on the intake valves that been talked about here. I was able to briefly look at it while they were cleaning them, but wasn’t really able to inspect them. Well, I took the manifold off myself this weekend because I was bored and felt like wrenching on my car. It obvious from the intake ports and intake manifold that there is quite a bit of oil vapor in the intake air stream. Which is typical, especially on high performance engines. There is a light oily film on the manifold port (and flaps) leading directly into the cylinder head as well as in the port itself. The closer you get to the valves, the film is more tacky and in some places, almost hard. But not like dry flakes. IMO, the oil vapor entrained in the air stream just clings to the valves and sticks because the valves are relatively hot. Its not “carbon” buildup due to combustion, its oil film buildup thats not effectively cleaned by fuel since the engine is direct injected, not port injected. The RS4 has an elaborate crankcase ventilation system equipped with a 3-stage venturi cyclone to help remove the oil particles. Obviously it doesn’t separate all the oil out. I don’t think some buildup would be out of the ordinary on these engines. The valve in the pic was the worst and its been roughly 800 miles since the dealer cleaned them.Quote:
After my $70k car’s performance went down the gutter (the first oil change after the break in), I dug into it. I do various data logs almost every day. I plot the info and try to notice certain trends. After a while, things become clear but after you see your intake valves crudded up beyond belief and then in bad shape again only 800 miles later, it becomes obvious. The volatized oil creates buildup, which constantly breaks apart, which enters the combustion chamber, then adheres to injectors, which disrupts flow patterns and/or causes injector damage, which leads to poor economy and performance and fuel leakage into the chamber, that leads to cold start misfires and damaged coils. The buildup also drastically affects airflow into the engine. Dealers are good at replacing the coils, but bad at persisting to find what the root cause is. Its so ironic that the RS4 community thinks that my car is an exception just because I took the time to unveil an obvious problem. I would bet that 80% of them are having the same issues. Its really a shame, because the 4.2 FSI is going to get a bad wrap when its truly a masterpiece. I ordered 5gal of the RLI 5W40 and will be monitoring the intake valve buildup since I have no problem taking my manifold off to see what’s going on.IMO fuel dilution is the root cause for increased volatization and breakdown of the oil. 10 year oil Audi/VW formulations, designed to deal with engine sludge, do not stand up to fuel breakdown and end up as deposits on the valves, combustion chamber and injectors.
February 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM #510247CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]Here’s my prediction for the next massive recall: within 5 years, I bet we are going to see many, many failures in CVT transmissions.
I don’t think they were tested thoroughly enough before going to market and when there is a significant number of them in the high mileage category, I bet we see a spike in failures in comparison to traditional transmissions. Especially in larger vehicles such as the Murano.
Well maybe many of them will be out of warranty by then so owners will be hit with massive repair bills instead of recalls.
Time will tell.[/quote]
I think it will be worse for dual clutch transmissions . Personally, I like them,..But that much electronics and hollow driveshafts…I don’t know….
Direct injection is also going to be interesting…Some tests are already coming in that the oil is hosed, so to speak. Audi owners get all the luxury of finding out firsthand, because Audi likes to introduce these things.
*I think they populated CVT with the B6 A4 Front Trak before nissan.
*Then they introduced DSG from Borg-Wagner
*And then they introduced FSI…..Some interesting finds from oil analysis from RS4’s….
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1325647
I’ve been posting on Audi FSI engines for some time now, and have discussed my oil analysis and issues with FSI engine fuel dilution impact on wear and deposit formation. Well, we now have confirmation of the oil-induced deposit formation issues with FSI engines.
Here’s a direct quote from an RS4 owner who is also a Mechanical Engineer.
Quote:
A little over a month ago, had the car in for CEL, misfires, etc. They found bad injectors, replaced them and the car runs fine now. They also found the buildup on the intake valves that been talked about here. I was able to briefly look at it while they were cleaning them, but wasn’t really able to inspect them. Well, I took the manifold off myself this weekend because I was bored and felt like wrenching on my car. It obvious from the intake ports and intake manifold that there is quite a bit of oil vapor in the intake air stream. Which is typical, especially on high performance engines. There is a light oily film on the manifold port (and flaps) leading directly into the cylinder head as well as in the port itself. The closer you get to the valves, the film is more tacky and in some places, almost hard. But not like dry flakes. IMO, the oil vapor entrained in the air stream just clings to the valves and sticks because the valves are relatively hot. Its not “carbon” buildup due to combustion, its oil film buildup thats not effectively cleaned by fuel since the engine is direct injected, not port injected. The RS4 has an elaborate crankcase ventilation system equipped with a 3-stage venturi cyclone to help remove the oil particles. Obviously it doesn’t separate all the oil out. I don’t think some buildup would be out of the ordinary on these engines. The valve in the pic was the worst and its been roughly 800 miles since the dealer cleaned them.Quote:
After my $70k car’s performance went down the gutter (the first oil change after the break in), I dug into it. I do various data logs almost every day. I plot the info and try to notice certain trends. After a while, things become clear but after you see your intake valves crudded up beyond belief and then in bad shape again only 800 miles later, it becomes obvious. The volatized oil creates buildup, which constantly breaks apart, which enters the combustion chamber, then adheres to injectors, which disrupts flow patterns and/or causes injector damage, which leads to poor economy and performance and fuel leakage into the chamber, that leads to cold start misfires and damaged coils. The buildup also drastically affects airflow into the engine. Dealers are good at replacing the coils, but bad at persisting to find what the root cause is. Its so ironic that the RS4 community thinks that my car is an exception just because I took the time to unveil an obvious problem. I would bet that 80% of them are having the same issues. Its really a shame, because the 4.2 FSI is going to get a bad wrap when its truly a masterpiece. I ordered 5gal of the RLI 5W40 and will be monitoring the intake valve buildup since I have no problem taking my manifold off to see what’s going on.IMO fuel dilution is the root cause for increased volatization and breakdown of the oil. 10 year oil Audi/VW formulations, designed to deal with engine sludge, do not stand up to fuel breakdown and end up as deposits on the valves, combustion chamber and injectors.
March 9, 2010 at 7:21 AM #523078svelteParticipant[quote=svelte]Here is an article on the Prius claiming they’ve known about the Prius problem for some time…Prius owners from the previous generation are piping in at the bottom of the article saying they’ve had this problem for years…will Toyota be forced to expand the recall?
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/04/autos/prius_timeline/index.htm
[/quote]
A prior generation Prius that was not a part of the recall that is all over the news today…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_runaway_prius
It’s looking like Toyota has some ‘splainin to do.
“EL CAJON, Calif. – A California Highway Patrol officer helped slow a runaway Toyota Prius from 94 mph to a safe stop on Monday after the car’s accelerator became stuck on a San Diego County freeway, the CHP said.
Prius driver James Sikes called 911 about 1:30 p.m. after accelerating to pass another vehicle on Interstate 8 near La Posta and finding that he could not control his car, the CHP said.
“I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny… it jumped and it just stuck there,” the 61-year-old driver said at a news conference. “As it was going, I was trying the brakes…it wasn’t stopping, it wasn’t doing anything and it just kept speeding up,” Sikes said, adding he could smell the brakes burning he was pressing the pedal so hard.
A patrol car pulled alongside the Prius and officers told Sikes over a loudspeaker to push the brake pedal to the floor and apply the emergency brake.
He also stated he reached down and pulled the floor mat away from the pedal – he said it was definitely NOT the floor mat. Let’s see…not the floor mat, not the pedal (according to Toyota), what could it be?
March 9, 2010 at 7:21 AM #523218svelteParticipant[quote=svelte]Here is an article on the Prius claiming they’ve known about the Prius problem for some time…Prius owners from the previous generation are piping in at the bottom of the article saying they’ve had this problem for years…will Toyota be forced to expand the recall?
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/04/autos/prius_timeline/index.htm
[/quote]
A prior generation Prius that was not a part of the recall that is all over the news today…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_runaway_prius
It’s looking like Toyota has some ‘splainin to do.
“EL CAJON, Calif. – A California Highway Patrol officer helped slow a runaway Toyota Prius from 94 mph to a safe stop on Monday after the car’s accelerator became stuck on a San Diego County freeway, the CHP said.
Prius driver James Sikes called 911 about 1:30 p.m. after accelerating to pass another vehicle on Interstate 8 near La Posta and finding that he could not control his car, the CHP said.
“I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny… it jumped and it just stuck there,” the 61-year-old driver said at a news conference. “As it was going, I was trying the brakes…it wasn’t stopping, it wasn’t doing anything and it just kept speeding up,” Sikes said, adding he could smell the brakes burning he was pressing the pedal so hard.
A patrol car pulled alongside the Prius and officers told Sikes over a loudspeaker to push the brake pedal to the floor and apply the emergency brake.
He also stated he reached down and pulled the floor mat away from the pedal – he said it was definitely NOT the floor mat. Let’s see…not the floor mat, not the pedal (according to Toyota), what could it be?
March 9, 2010 at 7:21 AM #523660svelteParticipant[quote=svelte]Here is an article on the Prius claiming they’ve known about the Prius problem for some time…Prius owners from the previous generation are piping in at the bottom of the article saying they’ve had this problem for years…will Toyota be forced to expand the recall?
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/04/autos/prius_timeline/index.htm
[/quote]
A prior generation Prius that was not a part of the recall that is all over the news today…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_runaway_prius
It’s looking like Toyota has some ‘splainin to do.
“EL CAJON, Calif. – A California Highway Patrol officer helped slow a runaway Toyota Prius from 94 mph to a safe stop on Monday after the car’s accelerator became stuck on a San Diego County freeway, the CHP said.
Prius driver James Sikes called 911 about 1:30 p.m. after accelerating to pass another vehicle on Interstate 8 near La Posta and finding that he could not control his car, the CHP said.
“I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny… it jumped and it just stuck there,” the 61-year-old driver said at a news conference. “As it was going, I was trying the brakes…it wasn’t stopping, it wasn’t doing anything and it just kept speeding up,” Sikes said, adding he could smell the brakes burning he was pressing the pedal so hard.
A patrol car pulled alongside the Prius and officers told Sikes over a loudspeaker to push the brake pedal to the floor and apply the emergency brake.
He also stated he reached down and pulled the floor mat away from the pedal – he said it was definitely NOT the floor mat. Let’s see…not the floor mat, not the pedal (according to Toyota), what could it be?
March 9, 2010 at 7:21 AM #523754svelteParticipant[quote=svelte]Here is an article on the Prius claiming they’ve known about the Prius problem for some time…Prius owners from the previous generation are piping in at the bottom of the article saying they’ve had this problem for years…will Toyota be forced to expand the recall?
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/04/autos/prius_timeline/index.htm
[/quote]
A prior generation Prius that was not a part of the recall that is all over the news today…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_runaway_prius
It’s looking like Toyota has some ‘splainin to do.
“EL CAJON, Calif. – A California Highway Patrol officer helped slow a runaway Toyota Prius from 94 mph to a safe stop on Monday after the car’s accelerator became stuck on a San Diego County freeway, the CHP said.
Prius driver James Sikes called 911 about 1:30 p.m. after accelerating to pass another vehicle on Interstate 8 near La Posta and finding that he could not control his car, the CHP said.
“I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny… it jumped and it just stuck there,” the 61-year-old driver said at a news conference. “As it was going, I was trying the brakes…it wasn’t stopping, it wasn’t doing anything and it just kept speeding up,” Sikes said, adding he could smell the brakes burning he was pressing the pedal so hard.
A patrol car pulled alongside the Prius and officers told Sikes over a loudspeaker to push the brake pedal to the floor and apply the emergency brake.
He also stated he reached down and pulled the floor mat away from the pedal – he said it was definitely NOT the floor mat. Let’s see…not the floor mat, not the pedal (according to Toyota), what could it be?
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