OT: Sad day for America

[jstoesz]

That study is simply asinine. If you believe violent action is NEVER justified, you are a complete moron or totally immoral. All that study shows me is that there are more conscientious objectors amongst the left (which should surprise no one), or more historically ill informed people amongst the left. This experiment we have with a constitutional democracy is not all that long running, when compared to historical governments. There is little certainty that one day, violent action will be more than justified. Anyone who says it is now, is pain stupid, but no one can predict the grizzly future, 40 years from now, or even 5…

BTW I do not own a gun, I am a cube dwelling engineer, who tends to be a bit of a social liberal, but I for one am glad the gun nuts exist.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: I would never debate nor deny that the Right does a better job of it. As I pointed out earlier, their listenership/viewership dwarfs that of the Left.

However, as to your point regarding a concerted, long-term message of violence: You’re obviously referring to the rising tide of assassinations, murder attempts and violence against political figures, correct? You see the problem, here, right? That simply isn’t the case, and we both know it. The Gifford shooting, while tragic, is NOT part of some larger and more dangerous series of attacks, nor is it “collateral damage” from these supposedly stage-managed and “engineered” programs from the Right.

The fact that the Right is more successful than the Left and enjoys a wider audience detracts not at all from the fact the both sides engage in the same vitriolic spew and do it for considered effect.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: I would never debate nor deny that the Right does a better job of it. As I pointed out earlier, their listenership/viewership dwarfs that of the Left.

However, as to your point regarding a concerted, long-term message of violence: You’re obviously referring to the rising tide of assassinations, murder attempts and violence against political figures, correct? You see the problem, here, right? That simply isn’t the case, and we both know it. The Gifford shooting, while tragic, is NOT part of some larger and more dangerous series of attacks, nor is it “collateral damage” from these supposedly stage-managed and “engineered” programs from the Right.

The fact that the Right is more successful than the Left and enjoys a wider audience detracts not at all from the fact the both sides engage in the same vitriolic spew and do it for considered effect.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: I would never debate nor deny that the Right does a better job of it. As I pointed out earlier, their listenership/viewership dwarfs that of the Left.

However, as to your point regarding a concerted, long-term message of violence: You’re obviously referring to the rising tide of assassinations, murder attempts and violence against political figures, correct? You see the problem, here, right? That simply isn’t the case, and we both know it. The Gifford shooting, while tragic, is NOT part of some larger and more dangerous series of attacks, nor is it “collateral damage” from these supposedly stage-managed and “engineered” programs from the Right.

The fact that the Right is more successful than the Left and enjoys a wider audience detracts not at all from the fact the both sides engage in the same vitriolic spew and do it for considered effect.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: I would never debate nor deny that the Right does a better job of it. As I pointed out earlier, their listenership/viewership dwarfs that of the Left.

However, as to your point regarding a concerted, long-term message of violence: You’re obviously referring to the rising tide of assassinations, murder attempts and violence against political figures, correct? You see the problem, here, right? That simply isn’t the case, and we both know it. The Gifford shooting, while tragic, is NOT part of some larger and more dangerous series of attacks, nor is it “collateral damage” from these supposedly stage-managed and “engineered” programs from the Right.

The fact that the Right is more successful than the Left and enjoys a wider audience detracts not at all from the fact the both sides engage in the same vitriolic spew and do it for considered effect.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: I would never debate nor deny that the Right does a better job of it. As I pointed out earlier, their listenership/viewership dwarfs that of the Left.

However, as to your point regarding a concerted, long-term message of violence: You’re obviously referring to the rising tide of assassinations, murder attempts and violence against political figures, correct? You see the problem, here, right? That simply isn’t the case, and we both know it. The Gifford shooting, while tragic, is NOT part of some larger and more dangerous series of attacks, nor is it “collateral damage” from these supposedly stage-managed and “engineered” programs from the Right.

The fact that the Right is more successful than the Left and enjoys a wider audience detracts not at all from the fact the both sides engage in the same vitriolic spew and do it for considered effect.

[briansd1]

[quote=Djshakes] NEVER willing to ever admit fault on your side. [/quote]

Actually, on the concurrent Chinese Mothers thread, I pretty much said that traditional conservative education is better than bleeding heart liberal education.

Did you ever admit that your side is wrong? Ask not of others what you won’t offer first.

[briansd1]

[quote=Djshakes] NEVER willing to ever admit fault on your side. [/quote]

Actually, on the concurrent Chinese Mothers thread, I pretty much said that traditional conservative education is better than bleeding heart liberal education.

Did you ever admit that your side is wrong? Ask not of others what you won’t offer first.

[briansd1]

[quote=Djshakes] NEVER willing to ever admit fault on your side. [/quote]

Actually, on the concurrent Chinese Mothers thread, I pretty much said that traditional conservative education is better than bleeding heart liberal education.

Did you ever admit that your side is wrong? Ask not of others what you won’t offer first.

[briansd1]

[quote=Djshakes] NEVER willing to ever admit fault on your side. [/quote]

Actually, on the concurrent Chinese Mothers thread, I pretty much said that traditional conservative education is better than bleeding heart liberal education.

Did you ever admit that your side is wrong? Ask not of others what you won’t offer first.

[briansd1]

[quote=Djshakes] NEVER willing to ever admit fault on your side. [/quote]

Actually, on the concurrent Chinese Mothers thread, I pretty much said that traditional conservative education is better than bleeding heart liberal education.

Did you ever admit that your side is wrong? Ask not of others what you won’t offer first.

[briansd1]

[quote=pri_dk]Allan, I’ve read plenty on the history of Russia (enough that I don’t read much any more because it’s so depressing.)[/quote]

For sure, Russian history is depressing. There was never much warmth and laughter in Russia.

[briansd1]

[quote=pri_dk]Allan, I’ve read plenty on the history of Russia (enough that I don’t read much any more because it’s so depressing.)[/quote]

For sure, Russian history is depressing. There was never much warmth and laughter in Russia.

[briansd1]

[quote=pri_dk]Allan, I’ve read plenty on the history of Russia (enough that I don’t read much any more because it’s so depressing.)[/quote]

For sure, Russian history is depressing. There was never much warmth and laughter in Russia.

[briansd1]

[quote=pri_dk]Allan, I’ve read plenty on the history of Russia (enough that I don’t read much any more because it’s so depressing.)[/quote]

For sure, Russian history is depressing. There was never much warmth and laughter in Russia.

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