OT: Sad day for America

[NotCranky]

Ucodeng,

I hope that understanding it helps. If the roots of much of this are in the indoctrination to violence for “National Strength”, like I think it is…well, left or right the fear of being weak is overriding. I think when we became international bullies the slippery slope of all slippery slopes was greased up.

Surveyor, Those questions have been answered on this thread. I do find it interesting how both the left and right think they have a case for the MSM being against them. Bizarre.

[Anonymous]

“The one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again”

Didn’t he also say this one also?

“The one who uses a google search as an authoritative source of history will believe anything”

Google tells me that the Ruskies had “socialist” in their name also – so they must have been good buddies with the Nazis, right?

BTW, whatever became of the German chapter of the ACLU back in those Nazi days? Google search doesn’t turn up anything…

[Anonymous]

“The one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again”

Didn’t he also say this one also?

“The one who uses a google search as an authoritative source of history will believe anything”

Google tells me that the Ruskies had “socialist” in their name also – so they must have been good buddies with the Nazis, right?

BTW, whatever became of the German chapter of the ACLU back in those Nazi days? Google search doesn’t turn up anything…

[Anonymous]

“The one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again”

Didn’t he also say this one also?

“The one who uses a google search as an authoritative source of history will believe anything”

Google tells me that the Ruskies had “socialist” in their name also – so they must have been good buddies with the Nazis, right?

BTW, whatever became of the German chapter of the ACLU back in those Nazi days? Google search doesn’t turn up anything…

[Anonymous]

“The one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again”

Didn’t he also say this one also?

“The one who uses a google search as an authoritative source of history will believe anything”

Google tells me that the Ruskies had “socialist” in their name also – so they must have been good buddies with the Nazis, right?

BTW, whatever became of the German chapter of the ACLU back in those Nazi days? Google search doesn’t turn up anything…

[Anonymous]

“The one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again”

Didn’t he also say this one also?

“The one who uses a google search as an authoritative source of history will believe anything”

Google tells me that the Ruskies had “socialist” in their name also – so they must have been good buddies with the Nazis, right?

BTW, whatever became of the German chapter of the ACLU back in those Nazi days? Google search doesn’t turn up anything…

[Arraya]

Good grief. For some reason smart conservatives become brain dead when talking about Nazism and Fascism in regards to political spectrum. Sure they were called the National Socialist Party, which I guess is good enough and operation just does not matter.

What I find interesting, also, is that they often imply that ‘society’ owning means of production and resources, none of which happened in Nazi germany, somehow inexplicably leads to genocidal behavior and mass murder. Which, therefor implicitly means that a small elite minority owning everything leads to peace and tranquility.

[Arraya]

Good grief. For some reason smart conservatives become brain dead when talking about Nazism and Fascism in regards to political spectrum. Sure they were called the National Socialist Party, which I guess is good enough and operation just does not matter.

What I find interesting, also, is that they often imply that ‘society’ owning means of production and resources, none of which happened in Nazi germany, somehow inexplicably leads to genocidal behavior and mass murder. Which, therefor implicitly means that a small elite minority owning everything leads to peace and tranquility.

[Arraya]

Good grief. For some reason smart conservatives become brain dead when talking about Nazism and Fascism in regards to political spectrum. Sure they were called the National Socialist Party, which I guess is good enough and operation just does not matter.

What I find interesting, also, is that they often imply that ‘society’ owning means of production and resources, none of which happened in Nazi germany, somehow inexplicably leads to genocidal behavior and mass murder. Which, therefor implicitly means that a small elite minority owning everything leads to peace and tranquility.

[Arraya]

Good grief. For some reason smart conservatives become brain dead when talking about Nazism and Fascism in regards to political spectrum. Sure they were called the National Socialist Party, which I guess is good enough and operation just does not matter.

What I find interesting, also, is that they often imply that ‘society’ owning means of production and resources, none of which happened in Nazi germany, somehow inexplicably leads to genocidal behavior and mass murder. Which, therefor implicitly means that a small elite minority owning everything leads to peace and tranquility.

[Arraya]

Good grief. For some reason smart conservatives become brain dead when talking about Nazism and Fascism in regards to political spectrum. Sure they were called the National Socialist Party, which I guess is good enough and operation just does not matter.

What I find interesting, also, is that they often imply that ‘society’ owning means of production and resources, none of which happened in Nazi germany, somehow inexplicably leads to genocidal behavior and mass murder. Which, therefor implicitly means that a small elite minority owning everything leads to peace and tranquility.

[ucodegen]

[quote=Rustico]Ucodeng,

I hope that understanding it helps. If the roots of much of this are in the indoctrination to violence for “National Strength”, like I think it is…well, left or right the fear of being weak is overriding. I think when we became international bullies the slippery slope of all slippery slopes was greased up. [/quote]
I think that calling on ‘indoctrination’ to violence for “National Strength” is a red herring. People need to be responsible for their own behavior and not blame it on outside factors. Besides, where is this so called indoctrination? The military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq has been continually brought to question. If you want to see indoctrination, check North Korea. Another country to check would be Japan leading up to WWII.

[quote Arraya]What I find interesting, also, is that they often imply that ‘society’ owning means of production and resources, none of which happened in Nazi germany, somehow inexplicably leads to genocidal behavior and mass murder.[/quote] No. Look at my comment afterwords. I posted a question to the point of; what happens when you move further left than left on the political scale? Ever heard of the term “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”?

[ucodegen]

[quote=Rustico]Ucodeng,

I hope that understanding it helps. If the roots of much of this are in the indoctrination to violence for “National Strength”, like I think it is…well, left or right the fear of being weak is overriding. I think when we became international bullies the slippery slope of all slippery slopes was greased up. [/quote]
I think that calling on ‘indoctrination’ to violence for “National Strength” is a red herring. People need to be responsible for their own behavior and not blame it on outside factors. Besides, where is this so called indoctrination? The military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq has been continually brought to question. If you want to see indoctrination, check North Korea. Another country to check would be Japan leading up to WWII.

[quote Arraya]What I find interesting, also, is that they often imply that ‘society’ owning means of production and resources, none of which happened in Nazi germany, somehow inexplicably leads to genocidal behavior and mass murder.[/quote] No. Look at my comment afterwords. I posted a question to the point of; what happens when you move further left than left on the political scale? Ever heard of the term “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”?

[ucodegen]

[quote=Rustico]Ucodeng,

I hope that understanding it helps. If the roots of much of this are in the indoctrination to violence for “National Strength”, like I think it is…well, left or right the fear of being weak is overriding. I think when we became international bullies the slippery slope of all slippery slopes was greased up. [/quote]
I think that calling on ‘indoctrination’ to violence for “National Strength” is a red herring. People need to be responsible for their own behavior and not blame it on outside factors. Besides, where is this so called indoctrination? The military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq has been continually brought to question. If you want to see indoctrination, check North Korea. Another country to check would be Japan leading up to WWII.

[quote Arraya]What I find interesting, also, is that they often imply that ‘society’ owning means of production and resources, none of which happened in Nazi germany, somehow inexplicably leads to genocidal behavior and mass murder.[/quote] No. Look at my comment afterwords. I posted a question to the point of; what happens when you move further left than left on the political scale? Ever heard of the term “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”?

[ucodegen]

[quote=Rustico]Ucodeng,

I hope that understanding it helps. If the roots of much of this are in the indoctrination to violence for “National Strength”, like I think it is…well, left or right the fear of being weak is overriding. I think when we became international bullies the slippery slope of all slippery slopes was greased up. [/quote]
I think that calling on ‘indoctrination’ to violence for “National Strength” is a red herring. People need to be responsible for their own behavior and not blame it on outside factors. Besides, where is this so called indoctrination? The military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq has been continually brought to question. If you want to see indoctrination, check North Korea. Another country to check would be Japan leading up to WWII.

[quote Arraya]What I find interesting, also, is that they often imply that ‘society’ owning means of production and resources, none of which happened in Nazi germany, somehow inexplicably leads to genocidal behavior and mass murder.[/quote] No. Look at my comment afterwords. I posted a question to the point of; what happens when you move further left than left on the political scale? Ever heard of the term “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”?

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