OT: Public pay & benefits

[teaboy]

I would support paying firefighters $5 each towards daily trips to Vons (additional cost ~$150/year/firefighter) in exchange for a 20% reduction in their pension benefits (savings of ~$15000/year/firefighter).

tb

[sdrealtor]

I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?

[sdrealtor]

I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?

[sdrealtor]

I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?

[sdrealtor]

I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?

[sdrealtor]

I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?

[jficquette]

[quote=sdrealtor]I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?[/quote]

Why do they have to eat anyway(g)? It’s just 3 days. J/K

John

[jficquette]

[quote=sdrealtor]I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?[/quote]

Why do they have to eat anyway(g)? It’s just 3 days. J/K

John

[jficquette]

[quote=sdrealtor]I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?[/quote]

Why do they have to eat anyway(g)? It’s just 3 days. J/K

John

[jficquette]

[quote=sdrealtor]I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?[/quote]

Why do they have to eat anyway(g)? It’s just 3 days. J/K

John

[jficquette]

[quote=sdrealtor]I think they should just order from Domino’s for every meal. Wouldnt that be much simpler?[/quote]

Why do they have to eat anyway(g)? It’s just 3 days. J/K

John

[Anonymous]

From OC:

http://www2.ocregister.com/articles/overtime-firefighters-fire-2374818-percent-ocfa

records show that a key factor behind the growth of overtime is the enhancement of pension benefits granted to firefighters in 2001. The pension benefits have boosted the cost of each firefighter dramatically, simultaneously discouraging the agency from new hires and encouraging more early retirements.

The huge pensions are actually reducing the number of firefighters, making it even harder to someone get a job as a firefighter.

Meanwhile, the overtime has helped to transform firefighting from a blue-collar job to a high-paying profession. Last year the Fire Authority’s 814 firefighters, engineers and captains earned a median annual pay of $137,784. Overtime made up $36,488 of that.

So one solution to current fiscal problems would be to go back to comparable blue-collar wages.

In 2001, Fire Authority board members enhanced retirement benefits to allow sworn staff to retire at age 50, with an annual pension that can mirror final salary. Overtime is not included in pension calculations, officials said.

Retire at 50 with $100K+ pension. Do the math. That is worth a few million dollars.

The article had no mention of firefighters leaving the profession for more lucrative careers as Realtors.

Why did I pick this article? I googled “firefighter overtime retirement” and this was the first result. There are many, many more.

It’s a national epidemic. It was a big factor in the downfall of our steel industry and our auto industry, and now it has spread to government.

[Anonymous]

From OC:

http://www2.ocregister.com/articles/overtime-firefighters-fire-2374818-percent-ocfa

records show that a key factor behind the growth of overtime is the enhancement of pension benefits granted to firefighters in 2001. The pension benefits have boosted the cost of each firefighter dramatically, simultaneously discouraging the agency from new hires and encouraging more early retirements.

The huge pensions are actually reducing the number of firefighters, making it even harder to someone get a job as a firefighter.

Meanwhile, the overtime has helped to transform firefighting from a blue-collar job to a high-paying profession. Last year the Fire Authority’s 814 firefighters, engineers and captains earned a median annual pay of $137,784. Overtime made up $36,488 of that.

So one solution to current fiscal problems would be to go back to comparable blue-collar wages.

In 2001, Fire Authority board members enhanced retirement benefits to allow sworn staff to retire at age 50, with an annual pension that can mirror final salary. Overtime is not included in pension calculations, officials said.

Retire at 50 with $100K+ pension. Do the math. That is worth a few million dollars.

The article had no mention of firefighters leaving the profession for more lucrative careers as Realtors.

Why did I pick this article? I googled “firefighter overtime retirement” and this was the first result. There are many, many more.

It’s a national epidemic. It was a big factor in the downfall of our steel industry and our auto industry, and now it has spread to government.

[Anonymous]

From OC:

http://www2.ocregister.com/articles/overtime-firefighters-fire-2374818-percent-ocfa

records show that a key factor behind the growth of overtime is the enhancement of pension benefits granted to firefighters in 2001. The pension benefits have boosted the cost of each firefighter dramatically, simultaneously discouraging the agency from new hires and encouraging more early retirements.

The huge pensions are actually reducing the number of firefighters, making it even harder to someone get a job as a firefighter.

Meanwhile, the overtime has helped to transform firefighting from a blue-collar job to a high-paying profession. Last year the Fire Authority’s 814 firefighters, engineers and captains earned a median annual pay of $137,784. Overtime made up $36,488 of that.

So one solution to current fiscal problems would be to go back to comparable blue-collar wages.

In 2001, Fire Authority board members enhanced retirement benefits to allow sworn staff to retire at age 50, with an annual pension that can mirror final salary. Overtime is not included in pension calculations, officials said.

Retire at 50 with $100K+ pension. Do the math. That is worth a few million dollars.

The article had no mention of firefighters leaving the profession for more lucrative careers as Realtors.

Why did I pick this article? I googled “firefighter overtime retirement” and this was the first result. There are many, many more.

It’s a national epidemic. It was a big factor in the downfall of our steel industry and our auto industry, and now it has spread to government.

[Anonymous]

From OC:

http://www2.ocregister.com/articles/overtime-firefighters-fire-2374818-percent-ocfa

records show that a key factor behind the growth of overtime is the enhancement of pension benefits granted to firefighters in 2001. The pension benefits have boosted the cost of each firefighter dramatically, simultaneously discouraging the agency from new hires and encouraging more early retirements.

The huge pensions are actually reducing the number of firefighters, making it even harder to someone get a job as a firefighter.

Meanwhile, the overtime has helped to transform firefighting from a blue-collar job to a high-paying profession. Last year the Fire Authority’s 814 firefighters, engineers and captains earned a median annual pay of $137,784. Overtime made up $36,488 of that.

So one solution to current fiscal problems would be to go back to comparable blue-collar wages.

In 2001, Fire Authority board members enhanced retirement benefits to allow sworn staff to retire at age 50, with an annual pension that can mirror final salary. Overtime is not included in pension calculations, officials said.

Retire at 50 with $100K+ pension. Do the math. That is worth a few million dollars.

The article had no mention of firefighters leaving the profession for more lucrative careers as Realtors.

Why did I pick this article? I googled “firefighter overtime retirement” and this was the first result. There are many, many more.

It’s a national epidemic. It was a big factor in the downfall of our steel industry and our auto industry, and now it has spread to government.

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