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March 15, 2008 at 9:15 PM #170859March 15, 2008 at 9:15 PM #170526
drunkle
Participanti dont know. i used palm as the template to describe the google and apple stuff. and the potential future… who’s to say ms and pocket pc dont make a massive drive into the mobile space? to me, browser based technology is the only insurance against obsolescence. plus it’s cheap, easy and 100% supported by everyone. if you dont have to learn and use a new platform/technology, why do it?
i still dont understand the “server side” stuff and the distinction you’re making with the total application development. to me, server side stuff is merely hardware, platform, firewall, network, etc. application development is tied at the hip in terms of client interface and server processes. how screwed up will your app get if there’s a disconnect between client and server specs? avoid that by having your people work in parallel rather than in series; each guy responsible for his module both front and back ends.
anyway, try a cheap intern first. they’ll have the most energy and give you the least flak. just keep them on a short leash.
March 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM #170575Coronita
ParticipantDrunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.
There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.
Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.
Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.
It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.
Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
March 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM #170909Coronita
ParticipantDrunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.
There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.
Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.
Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.
It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.
Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
March 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM #170916Coronita
ParticipantDrunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.
There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.
Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.
Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.
It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.
Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
March 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM #170935Coronita
ParticipantDrunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.
There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.
Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.
Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.
It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.
Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
March 15, 2008 at 10:55 PM #171013Coronita
ParticipantDrunkle, I need to get off this board. I think I'm addicted. BUT, to answer your question.
There is a huge difference between mobile developers and enterprise software developers. Different knowledge, different experience, and probably different skillsets.
Mobile developers: designs with the mobile constraints: power consumption, memory footprint, lousy network,etc.
Enterprise developers: deal with designing for scalability Y, response time X, 99.999% availability,etc, an enterprise data model that will last over time,etc… The software business has changed alot for enterprise software developers. You use to only do DB work if your were the DB guy, or only write code that fits in an app server or only do the scalability stuff. These days, most people who are in this business and are the top guys can really do it all top to bottom, or at least tell others how to do it top to bottom from frontend all the way to the data layer. The flip side is, most enterprise developers would end up blowing all memory and storage resources if you let them develop mobile software, because they wouldn't be use to those constraints on the mobile.
It's quite funny. When I look at someone's code, I can usually tell if they were ex-mobile developers or ex-enterprise developers. The former's hello world program is complete unreadable. The latter's hello world program contains 15 objects to do it.
Microsofts mobile platform is primarily business focused, and as such will never have the same bite as platforms that are consumer oriented frankly. Pocket pc's don't have connectivity unless you're in a wifi area and do not have location based capabilities.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
March 16, 2008 at 12:11 AM #170591Eugene
ParticipantI have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.
March 16, 2008 at 12:11 AM #170924Eugene
ParticipantI have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.
March 16, 2008 at 12:11 AM #170931Eugene
ParticipantI have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.
March 16, 2008 at 12:11 AM #170950Eugene
ParticipantI have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.
March 16, 2008 at 12:11 AM #171028Eugene
ParticipantI have no mobile experience (mostly x86, C, C++, MMX) but I could spend some of my free time working on an interesting task for fun and stock. If there’s money involved, all the better. LMK if you’re interested.
March 16, 2008 at 9:29 AM #170688barnaby33
ParticipantStupid enterprise devs and their bloated code! Oh wait thats me.
Josh
March 16, 2008 at 9:29 AM #171123barnaby33
ParticipantStupid enterprise devs and their bloated code! Oh wait thats me.
Josh
March 16, 2008 at 9:29 AM #171044barnaby33
ParticipantStupid enterprise devs and their bloated code! Oh wait thats me.
Josh
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