OT: plastic bag ban rejected

[CBad]

Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?

[Coronita]

[quote=CBad]Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?[/quote]

CA is one bureaucratic state. There’s a bunch of self interest groups that will prevent most things from passing…And something does pass…It doesn’t matter anyway, because there’s always an opposition group that will just file a bunch of lawsuits to have it overturned by a judge anyway.

No, I don’t wash mine, unless something gets spilled, which normally doesn’t happen…Most raw meats, fruits/veggies/etc etc are already wrapped in layers of bags/paper and plastic anyway prior to bagging. So double bagging that again really is for convenience only

[Coronita]

[quote=CBad]Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?[/quote]

CA is one bureaucratic state. There’s a bunch of self interest groups that will prevent most things from passing…And something does pass…It doesn’t matter anyway, because there’s always an opposition group that will just file a bunch of lawsuits to have it overturned by a judge anyway.

No, I don’t wash mine, unless something gets spilled, which normally doesn’t happen…Most raw meats, fruits/veggies/etc etc are already wrapped in layers of bags/paper and plastic anyway prior to bagging. So double bagging that again really is for convenience only

[Coronita]

[quote=CBad]Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?[/quote]

CA is one bureaucratic state. There’s a bunch of self interest groups that will prevent most things from passing…And something does pass…It doesn’t matter anyway, because there’s always an opposition group that will just file a bunch of lawsuits to have it overturned by a judge anyway.

No, I don’t wash mine, unless something gets spilled, which normally doesn’t happen…Most raw meats, fruits/veggies/etc etc are already wrapped in layers of bags/paper and plastic anyway prior to bagging. So double bagging that again really is for convenience only

[Coronita]

[quote=CBad]Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?[/quote]

CA is one bureaucratic state. There’s a bunch of self interest groups that will prevent most things from passing…And something does pass…It doesn’t matter anyway, because there’s always an opposition group that will just file a bunch of lawsuits to have it overturned by a judge anyway.

No, I don’t wash mine, unless something gets spilled, which normally doesn’t happen…Most raw meats, fruits/veggies/etc etc are already wrapped in layers of bags/paper and plastic anyway prior to bagging. So double bagging that again really is for convenience only

[Coronita]

[quote=CBad]Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?[/quote]

CA is one bureaucratic state. There’s a bunch of self interest groups that will prevent most things from passing…And something does pass…It doesn’t matter anyway, because there’s always an opposition group that will just file a bunch of lawsuits to have it overturned by a judge anyway.

No, I don’t wash mine, unless something gets spilled, which normally doesn’t happen…Most raw meats, fruits/veggies/etc etc are already wrapped in layers of bags/paper and plastic anyway prior to bagging. So double bagging that again really is for convenience only

[Aecetia]

I think you could spray them with lysol and that should get rid of most of the germs. Some of the reusable bags at Trader Joe’s are a sturdy plastic. I am not sure those should be washed, but definitely sprayed with something to kill the germs.

[Aecetia]

I think you could spray them with lysol and that should get rid of most of the germs. Some of the reusable bags at Trader Joe’s are a sturdy plastic. I am not sure those should be washed, but definitely sprayed with something to kill the germs.

[Aecetia]

I think you could spray them with lysol and that should get rid of most of the germs. Some of the reusable bags at Trader Joe’s are a sturdy plastic. I am not sure those should be washed, but definitely sprayed with something to kill the germs.

[Aecetia]

I think you could spray them with lysol and that should get rid of most of the germs. Some of the reusable bags at Trader Joe’s are a sturdy plastic. I am not sure those should be washed, but definitely sprayed with something to kill the germs.

[Aecetia]

I think you could spray them with lysol and that should get rid of most of the germs. Some of the reusable bags at Trader Joe’s are a sturdy plastic. I am not sure those should be washed, but definitely sprayed with something to kill the germs.

[UCGal]

I used to use the cotton bags – but they flop too much. Costco has returned the best reusable bags for sale… they’re blue nylon with red handles – they have a flat bottom when they’re open. They have slots for 4 wine bottles on the side. They are INCREDIBLY strong and can be packed full. Because of the flat bottom and the stiffness of the nylon – they can be put in the back of a car and not flop over, rolling all the contents around the back.

These are NOT to be confused with the awful green costco branded reusable bags… those are too big/unwieldy and have the same floppiness of the cotton bags.

These blue ones are inexpensive. I think it’s 5 bags for $6 or something. I bought 10 of them when they first had them 4 years ago… then they switched out to these oversized green ones that were useless… I recently purchased more blue ones when I saw they had them in stock again.

We use them for groceries, for hauling sporting gear, etc…

[img_assist|nid=13848|title=costcobag|desc=costco bag|link=node|align=left|width=160|height=120][img_assist|nid=13849|title=costcobag2|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=160|height=120]

Oh – and they can be wiped down easily if you’re worried about salmonella… I spray with diluted vinegar and wipe them down.

[UCGal]

I used to use the cotton bags – but they flop too much. Costco has returned the best reusable bags for sale… they’re blue nylon with red handles – they have a flat bottom when they’re open. They have slots for 4 wine bottles on the side. They are INCREDIBLY strong and can be packed full. Because of the flat bottom and the stiffness of the nylon – they can be put in the back of a car and not flop over, rolling all the contents around the back.

These are NOT to be confused with the awful green costco branded reusable bags… those are too big/unwieldy and have the same floppiness of the cotton bags.

These blue ones are inexpensive. I think it’s 5 bags for $6 or something. I bought 10 of them when they first had them 4 years ago… then they switched out to these oversized green ones that were useless… I recently purchased more blue ones when I saw they had them in stock again.

We use them for groceries, for hauling sporting gear, etc…

[img_assist|nid=13848|title=costcobag|desc=costco bag|link=node|align=left|width=160|height=120][img_assist|nid=13849|title=costcobag2|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=160|height=120]

Oh – and they can be wiped down easily if you’re worried about salmonella… I spray with diluted vinegar and wipe them down.

[UCGal]

I used to use the cotton bags – but they flop too much. Costco has returned the best reusable bags for sale… they’re blue nylon with red handles – they have a flat bottom when they’re open. They have slots for 4 wine bottles on the side. They are INCREDIBLY strong and can be packed full. Because of the flat bottom and the stiffness of the nylon – they can be put in the back of a car and not flop over, rolling all the contents around the back.

These are NOT to be confused with the awful green costco branded reusable bags… those are too big/unwieldy and have the same floppiness of the cotton bags.

These blue ones are inexpensive. I think it’s 5 bags for $6 or something. I bought 10 of them when they first had them 4 years ago… then they switched out to these oversized green ones that were useless… I recently purchased more blue ones when I saw they had them in stock again.

We use them for groceries, for hauling sporting gear, etc…

[img_assist|nid=13848|title=costcobag|desc=costco bag|link=node|align=left|width=160|height=120][img_assist|nid=13849|title=costcobag2|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=160|height=120]

Oh – and they can be wiped down easily if you’re worried about salmonella… I spray with diluted vinegar and wipe them down.

[UCGal]

I used to use the cotton bags – but they flop too much. Costco has returned the best reusable bags for sale… they’re blue nylon with red handles – they have a flat bottom when they’re open. They have slots for 4 wine bottles on the side. They are INCREDIBLY strong and can be packed full. Because of the flat bottom and the stiffness of the nylon – they can be put in the back of a car and not flop over, rolling all the contents around the back.

These are NOT to be confused with the awful green costco branded reusable bags… those are too big/unwieldy and have the same floppiness of the cotton bags.

These blue ones are inexpensive. I think it’s 5 bags for $6 or something. I bought 10 of them when they first had them 4 years ago… then they switched out to these oversized green ones that were useless… I recently purchased more blue ones when I saw they had them in stock again.

We use them for groceries, for hauling sporting gear, etc…

[img_assist|nid=13848|title=costcobag|desc=costco bag|link=node|align=left|width=160|height=120][img_assist|nid=13849|title=costcobag2|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=160|height=120]

Oh – and they can be wiped down easily if you’re worried about salmonella… I spray with diluted vinegar and wipe them down.

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