OT Pickens Plan

[Aecetia]

So that is a no to chaos theory? I have heard the wind farms kill birds who fly into them and then Teddy Kennedy did not want them to ruin his ocean view. In other words, you can find something wrong with any proposal if you look long enough. I think wind farms and solar energy are a step in the right direction. There should be significant rebates for those who install solar to off set the initial cost.

[SD Realtor]

Yep wind farms do kill birds that fly into the blades and require servicing and cleaning. I am sure solar panels require plenty of cleaning as well. Similarly there are underwater farms as well that spin based on currents and tidal activity.

Natural gas needs the infrastructure as TG pointed out but it is nothing that cannot be overcome.

Here is an example. This year Bushie ponied up 168 billion as a “stimulus” package. Let’s see… I would bet that half of the people on this site didn’t even qualify for that money. Meanwhile since the announcement of the package in February the price of oil has gone up what 20%? 30%? Something like that. So here is a package that went to give everyone a couple hundred bucks so they could go buy more crap at Best Buy.

Perhaps it would have been better spent? So lets see, 168B from that… another 300B for the bailout…

Our government seems to think the way out of our spending mess is to… well spend more…. seems like we could be spending it on something that will really help our country down the line.

[SD Realtor]

Yep wind farms do kill birds that fly into the blades and require servicing and cleaning. I am sure solar panels require plenty of cleaning as well. Similarly there are underwater farms as well that spin based on currents and tidal activity.

Natural gas needs the infrastructure as TG pointed out but it is nothing that cannot be overcome.

Here is an example. This year Bushie ponied up 168 billion as a “stimulus” package. Let’s see… I would bet that half of the people on this site didn’t even qualify for that money. Meanwhile since the announcement of the package in February the price of oil has gone up what 20%? 30%? Something like that. So here is a package that went to give everyone a couple hundred bucks so they could go buy more crap at Best Buy.

Perhaps it would have been better spent? So lets see, 168B from that… another 300B for the bailout…

Our government seems to think the way out of our spending mess is to… well spend more…. seems like we could be spending it on something that will really help our country down the line.

[SD Realtor]

Yep wind farms do kill birds that fly into the blades and require servicing and cleaning. I am sure solar panels require plenty of cleaning as well. Similarly there are underwater farms as well that spin based on currents and tidal activity.

Natural gas needs the infrastructure as TG pointed out but it is nothing that cannot be overcome.

Here is an example. This year Bushie ponied up 168 billion as a “stimulus” package. Let’s see… I would bet that half of the people on this site didn’t even qualify for that money. Meanwhile since the announcement of the package in February the price of oil has gone up what 20%? 30%? Something like that. So here is a package that went to give everyone a couple hundred bucks so they could go buy more crap at Best Buy.

Perhaps it would have been better spent? So lets see, 168B from that… another 300B for the bailout…

Our government seems to think the way out of our spending mess is to… well spend more…. seems like we could be spending it on something that will really help our country down the line.

[SD Realtor]

Yep wind farms do kill birds that fly into the blades and require servicing and cleaning. I am sure solar panels require plenty of cleaning as well. Similarly there are underwater farms as well that spin based on currents and tidal activity.

Natural gas needs the infrastructure as TG pointed out but it is nothing that cannot be overcome.

Here is an example. This year Bushie ponied up 168 billion as a “stimulus” package. Let’s see… I would bet that half of the people on this site didn’t even qualify for that money. Meanwhile since the announcement of the package in February the price of oil has gone up what 20%? 30%? Something like that. So here is a package that went to give everyone a couple hundred bucks so they could go buy more crap at Best Buy.

Perhaps it would have been better spent? So lets see, 168B from that… another 300B for the bailout…

Our government seems to think the way out of our spending mess is to… well spend more…. seems like we could be spending it on something that will really help our country down the line.

[SD Realtor]

Yep wind farms do kill birds that fly into the blades and require servicing and cleaning. I am sure solar panels require plenty of cleaning as well. Similarly there are underwater farms as well that spin based on currents and tidal activity.

Natural gas needs the infrastructure as TG pointed out but it is nothing that cannot be overcome.

Here is an example. This year Bushie ponied up 168 billion as a “stimulus” package. Let’s see… I would bet that half of the people on this site didn’t even qualify for that money. Meanwhile since the announcement of the package in February the price of oil has gone up what 20%? 30%? Something like that. So here is a package that went to give everyone a couple hundred bucks so they could go buy more crap at Best Buy.

Perhaps it would have been better spent? So lets see, 168B from that… another 300B for the bailout…

Our government seems to think the way out of our spending mess is to… well spend more…. seems like we could be spending it on something that will really help our country down the line.

[Portlock]

I think AN’s comment about windmills affecting the global climate is, in part, a spiteful complaint and attempt at a similar comparison to the cry of environmentalists over the greenhouse effect, but from a fossil fuel advocate’s POV. Am I way off AN?

[Portlock]

I think AN’s comment about windmills affecting the global climate is, in part, a spiteful complaint and attempt at a similar comparison to the cry of environmentalists over the greenhouse effect, but from a fossil fuel advocate’s POV. Am I way off AN?

[Portlock]

I think AN’s comment about windmills affecting the global climate is, in part, a spiteful complaint and attempt at a similar comparison to the cry of environmentalists over the greenhouse effect, but from a fossil fuel advocate’s POV. Am I way off AN?

[Portlock]

I think AN’s comment about windmills affecting the global climate is, in part, a spiteful complaint and attempt at a similar comparison to the cry of environmentalists over the greenhouse effect, but from a fossil fuel advocate’s POV. Am I way off AN?

[Portlock]

I think AN’s comment about windmills affecting the global climate is, in part, a spiteful complaint and attempt at a similar comparison to the cry of environmentalists over the greenhouse effect, but from a fossil fuel advocate’s POV. Am I way off AN?

[DWCAP]

Clean tech that is renewable, continous, and CO2 free (yah yah, shipping and maintaince truck driving aside) without any waste to bury for 20000 years.

Solar
Wind
thermal
Ocean tide
Hydro

Add in some things like biogass (decomposting plant matter and animal wastes) which are a natural biproduct of our lives and basically akin to finding new revinue streams for used products, and we can generate alot of energy without generating really any more CO2.

The reason Pickens and his buddies want to transition to CNG is to keep the current energy buisness plan. A true hybrid is murder to Chevrons current buisness. They want another constant, dependable, and perpetually increasing revenue stream (natural population growth) for buisnesses. Plus, people fork over alot of money on overpriced crap when purchasing gas.

Imagine if we had a true plug in hybrid, where you could get say, 50-100 miles on a charge, before an efficient gasoline powered engine kicked in for the 15 times a year you actually needed it. Our oil supplies would last us hundreds of years, and these people would no longer be the uber rich of the world.

[DWCAP]

Clean tech that is renewable, continous, and CO2 free (yah yah, shipping and maintaince truck driving aside) without any waste to bury for 20000 years.

Solar
Wind
thermal
Ocean tide
Hydro

Add in some things like biogass (decomposting plant matter and animal wastes) which are a natural biproduct of our lives and basically akin to finding new revinue streams for used products, and we can generate alot of energy without generating really any more CO2.

The reason Pickens and his buddies want to transition to CNG is to keep the current energy buisness plan. A true hybrid is murder to Chevrons current buisness. They want another constant, dependable, and perpetually increasing revenue stream (natural population growth) for buisnesses. Plus, people fork over alot of money on overpriced crap when purchasing gas.

Imagine if we had a true plug in hybrid, where you could get say, 50-100 miles on a charge, before an efficient gasoline powered engine kicked in for the 15 times a year you actually needed it. Our oil supplies would last us hundreds of years, and these people would no longer be the uber rich of the world.

[DWCAP]

Clean tech that is renewable, continous, and CO2 free (yah yah, shipping and maintaince truck driving aside) without any waste to bury for 20000 years.

Solar
Wind
thermal
Ocean tide
Hydro

Add in some things like biogass (decomposting plant matter and animal wastes) which are a natural biproduct of our lives and basically akin to finding new revinue streams for used products, and we can generate alot of energy without generating really any more CO2.

The reason Pickens and his buddies want to transition to CNG is to keep the current energy buisness plan. A true hybrid is murder to Chevrons current buisness. They want another constant, dependable, and perpetually increasing revenue stream (natural population growth) for buisnesses. Plus, people fork over alot of money on overpriced crap when purchasing gas.

Imagine if we had a true plug in hybrid, where you could get say, 50-100 miles on a charge, before an efficient gasoline powered engine kicked in for the 15 times a year you actually needed it. Our oil supplies would last us hundreds of years, and these people would no longer be the uber rich of the world.

[DWCAP]

Clean tech that is renewable, continous, and CO2 free (yah yah, shipping and maintaince truck driving aside) without any waste to bury for 20000 years.

Solar
Wind
thermal
Ocean tide
Hydro

Add in some things like biogass (decomposting plant matter and animal wastes) which are a natural biproduct of our lives and basically akin to finding new revinue streams for used products, and we can generate alot of energy without generating really any more CO2.

The reason Pickens and his buddies want to transition to CNG is to keep the current energy buisness plan. A true hybrid is murder to Chevrons current buisness. They want another constant, dependable, and perpetually increasing revenue stream (natural population growth) for buisnesses. Plus, people fork over alot of money on overpriced crap when purchasing gas.

Imagine if we had a true plug in hybrid, where you could get say, 50-100 miles on a charge, before an efficient gasoline powered engine kicked in for the 15 times a year you actually needed it. Our oil supplies would last us hundreds of years, and these people would no longer be the uber rich of the world.

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