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June 11, 2009 at 5:24 PM #414858June 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM #414153anParticipant
Maybe he just need more tutoring or take easier classes? Seems like he doesn’t have very much distraction. Which means he’s not understanding material very well. Unless he’s doing something else other than studying.
June 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM #414392anParticipantMaybe he just need more tutoring or take easier classes? Seems like he doesn’t have very much distraction. Which means he’s not understanding material very well. Unless he’s doing something else other than studying.
June 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM #414646anParticipantMaybe he just need more tutoring or take easier classes? Seems like he doesn’t have very much distraction. Which means he’s not understanding material very well. Unless he’s doing something else other than studying.
June 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM #414715anParticipantMaybe he just need more tutoring or take easier classes? Seems like he doesn’t have very much distraction. Which means he’s not understanding material very well. Unless he’s doing something else other than studying.
June 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM #414868anParticipantMaybe he just need more tutoring or take easier classes? Seems like he doesn’t have very much distraction. Which means he’s not understanding material very well. Unless he’s doing something else other than studying.
June 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM #414163svelteParticipantI tried the exact thing you’re talking about, with very similar dollar values you’ve put forth.
The results were mixed.
One child did have a noticeable improvement for a half-year to a year, then things went back to As and Bs, just like they had been before. Very smart kid who just put forth the effort in subjects that were appealing, basically.
The other child was intrigued by the idea and I saw a blip upward for a little while, but that was about it….returned to Bs and Cs.
My take on it: a grading interval is way too long to be much of an incentive…the carrot is too far out there for most kids. I think your purpose would be better served if you gave $$ for every test they took. Of course, this would mean working closely with the teacher to determine what tests would be given and to ensure tests weren’t “manufactured” to pad their wallet, but I think this arrangement would work better. And if they do well on all the individual tests, the better grade in the entire course will follow.
June 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM #414402svelteParticipantI tried the exact thing you’re talking about, with very similar dollar values you’ve put forth.
The results were mixed.
One child did have a noticeable improvement for a half-year to a year, then things went back to As and Bs, just like they had been before. Very smart kid who just put forth the effort in subjects that were appealing, basically.
The other child was intrigued by the idea and I saw a blip upward for a little while, but that was about it….returned to Bs and Cs.
My take on it: a grading interval is way too long to be much of an incentive…the carrot is too far out there for most kids. I think your purpose would be better served if you gave $$ for every test they took. Of course, this would mean working closely with the teacher to determine what tests would be given and to ensure tests weren’t “manufactured” to pad their wallet, but I think this arrangement would work better. And if they do well on all the individual tests, the better grade in the entire course will follow.
June 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM #414656svelteParticipantI tried the exact thing you’re talking about, with very similar dollar values you’ve put forth.
The results were mixed.
One child did have a noticeable improvement for a half-year to a year, then things went back to As and Bs, just like they had been before. Very smart kid who just put forth the effort in subjects that were appealing, basically.
The other child was intrigued by the idea and I saw a blip upward for a little while, but that was about it….returned to Bs and Cs.
My take on it: a grading interval is way too long to be much of an incentive…the carrot is too far out there for most kids. I think your purpose would be better served if you gave $$ for every test they took. Of course, this would mean working closely with the teacher to determine what tests would be given and to ensure tests weren’t “manufactured” to pad their wallet, but I think this arrangement would work better. And if they do well on all the individual tests, the better grade in the entire course will follow.
June 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM #414725svelteParticipantI tried the exact thing you’re talking about, with very similar dollar values you’ve put forth.
The results were mixed.
One child did have a noticeable improvement for a half-year to a year, then things went back to As and Bs, just like they had been before. Very smart kid who just put forth the effort in subjects that were appealing, basically.
The other child was intrigued by the idea and I saw a blip upward for a little while, but that was about it….returned to Bs and Cs.
My take on it: a grading interval is way too long to be much of an incentive…the carrot is too far out there for most kids. I think your purpose would be better served if you gave $$ for every test they took. Of course, this would mean working closely with the teacher to determine what tests would be given and to ensure tests weren’t “manufactured” to pad their wallet, but I think this arrangement would work better. And if they do well on all the individual tests, the better grade in the entire course will follow.
June 11, 2009 at 5:52 PM #414878svelteParticipantI tried the exact thing you’re talking about, with very similar dollar values you’ve put forth.
The results were mixed.
One child did have a noticeable improvement for a half-year to a year, then things went back to As and Bs, just like they had been before. Very smart kid who just put forth the effort in subjects that were appealing, basically.
The other child was intrigued by the idea and I saw a blip upward for a little while, but that was about it….returned to Bs and Cs.
My take on it: a grading interval is way too long to be much of an incentive…the carrot is too far out there for most kids. I think your purpose would be better served if you gave $$ for every test they took. Of course, this would mean working closely with the teacher to determine what tests would be given and to ensure tests weren’t “manufactured” to pad their wallet, but I think this arrangement would work better. And if they do well on all the individual tests, the better grade in the entire course will follow.
June 11, 2009 at 6:44 PM #414178CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredycat]we don’t own a tv. no car. doesnt go out much w/friends, just one friend. doesn’t talk on the phone. he likes to read, we could prohibit reading, we’ve tried that in the past. we have internet. i guess i could take that away. i doubt that would motivate him though. [/quote]
Reading is a good thing…Really, especially in southern california….You should encourage him to read more….What particular subject(s) is he do you think he is not doing well in?
I think you need to figure out if he “isn’t doing well” as you describe is because (a) he is disinterested or (b) because he is having a hard time on subjects. The later won’t be solved by throwing money for different grades…he needs better tools for learning.
That said, I’m not sure in your case if the incentive you are proposing is going to work. From what you describe, your son seems like he’s more on the introvert side…as he seems to like to stay home more, doesn’t hang out with too many friends etc, so he probably doesn’t have a pressing need to use money for any purpose.
If your son’s motivation is the issue (versus learning difficulty), maybe the thing to do is to find your son more things to do. A hobby of some sort, photography, some sport, something. Encourage him to go out more..with friends….Because having a little *positive* peer pressure to want things/ do things might open some things up. Just got to find the right peers.
I got involved with computers and photography very young, the former was because I had friends that were into it. The later was so I could make a convenient excuse to take pictures of girls for the school yearbook. So money quickly became an issue when it came to getting gear (computers were $3k those days)…
Just be very very careful with how you word your incentives. My dad offered to buy me an Apple IIe if I scored a goal in my AYSO league (I was the second to the worst player). 4th game in, I did….on my own team’s goalie.. by accident….He never specified which side to score….He ended up ponying up the computer and never made any such deal with me again….
June 11, 2009 at 6:44 PM #414417CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredycat]we don’t own a tv. no car. doesnt go out much w/friends, just one friend. doesn’t talk on the phone. he likes to read, we could prohibit reading, we’ve tried that in the past. we have internet. i guess i could take that away. i doubt that would motivate him though. [/quote]
Reading is a good thing…Really, especially in southern california….You should encourage him to read more….What particular subject(s) is he do you think he is not doing well in?
I think you need to figure out if he “isn’t doing well” as you describe is because (a) he is disinterested or (b) because he is having a hard time on subjects. The later won’t be solved by throwing money for different grades…he needs better tools for learning.
That said, I’m not sure in your case if the incentive you are proposing is going to work. From what you describe, your son seems like he’s more on the introvert side…as he seems to like to stay home more, doesn’t hang out with too many friends etc, so he probably doesn’t have a pressing need to use money for any purpose.
If your son’s motivation is the issue (versus learning difficulty), maybe the thing to do is to find your son more things to do. A hobby of some sort, photography, some sport, something. Encourage him to go out more..with friends….Because having a little *positive* peer pressure to want things/ do things might open some things up. Just got to find the right peers.
I got involved with computers and photography very young, the former was because I had friends that were into it. The later was so I could make a convenient excuse to take pictures of girls for the school yearbook. So money quickly became an issue when it came to getting gear (computers were $3k those days)…
Just be very very careful with how you word your incentives. My dad offered to buy me an Apple IIe if I scored a goal in my AYSO league (I was the second to the worst player). 4th game in, I did….on my own team’s goalie.. by accident….He never specified which side to score….He ended up ponying up the computer and never made any such deal with me again….
June 11, 2009 at 6:44 PM #414671CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredycat]we don’t own a tv. no car. doesnt go out much w/friends, just one friend. doesn’t talk on the phone. he likes to read, we could prohibit reading, we’ve tried that in the past. we have internet. i guess i could take that away. i doubt that would motivate him though. [/quote]
Reading is a good thing…Really, especially in southern california….You should encourage him to read more….What particular subject(s) is he do you think he is not doing well in?
I think you need to figure out if he “isn’t doing well” as you describe is because (a) he is disinterested or (b) because he is having a hard time on subjects. The later won’t be solved by throwing money for different grades…he needs better tools for learning.
That said, I’m not sure in your case if the incentive you are proposing is going to work. From what you describe, your son seems like he’s more on the introvert side…as he seems to like to stay home more, doesn’t hang out with too many friends etc, so he probably doesn’t have a pressing need to use money for any purpose.
If your son’s motivation is the issue (versus learning difficulty), maybe the thing to do is to find your son more things to do. A hobby of some sort, photography, some sport, something. Encourage him to go out more..with friends….Because having a little *positive* peer pressure to want things/ do things might open some things up. Just got to find the right peers.
I got involved with computers and photography very young, the former was because I had friends that were into it. The later was so I could make a convenient excuse to take pictures of girls for the school yearbook. So money quickly became an issue when it came to getting gear (computers were $3k those days)…
Just be very very careful with how you word your incentives. My dad offered to buy me an Apple IIe if I scored a goal in my AYSO league (I was the second to the worst player). 4th game in, I did….on my own team’s goalie.. by accident….He never specified which side to score….He ended up ponying up the computer and never made any such deal with me again….
June 11, 2009 at 6:44 PM #414740CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredycat]we don’t own a tv. no car. doesnt go out much w/friends, just one friend. doesn’t talk on the phone. he likes to read, we could prohibit reading, we’ve tried that in the past. we have internet. i guess i could take that away. i doubt that would motivate him though. [/quote]
Reading is a good thing…Really, especially in southern california….You should encourage him to read more….What particular subject(s) is he do you think he is not doing well in?
I think you need to figure out if he “isn’t doing well” as you describe is because (a) he is disinterested or (b) because he is having a hard time on subjects. The later won’t be solved by throwing money for different grades…he needs better tools for learning.
That said, I’m not sure in your case if the incentive you are proposing is going to work. From what you describe, your son seems like he’s more on the introvert side…as he seems to like to stay home more, doesn’t hang out with too many friends etc, so he probably doesn’t have a pressing need to use money for any purpose.
If your son’s motivation is the issue (versus learning difficulty), maybe the thing to do is to find your son more things to do. A hobby of some sort, photography, some sport, something. Encourage him to go out more..with friends….Because having a little *positive* peer pressure to want things/ do things might open some things up. Just got to find the right peers.
I got involved with computers and photography very young, the former was because I had friends that were into it. The later was so I could make a convenient excuse to take pictures of girls for the school yearbook. So money quickly became an issue when it came to getting gear (computers were $3k those days)…
Just be very very careful with how you word your incentives. My dad offered to buy me an Apple IIe if I scored a goal in my AYSO league (I was the second to the worst player). 4th game in, I did….on my own team’s goalie.. by accident….He never specified which side to score….He ended up ponying up the computer and never made any such deal with me again….
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