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August 12, 2008 at 4:45 PM #256438August 12, 2008 at 4:45 PM #256487
jficquette
ParticipantI wouldn’t mind if we changed the title to this thread. Even though I think Obama is a joke I don’t think that he is dumber then a box of rocks. Plus I know it offends some supporters of his and I feel bad for them.
Maybe he is dumber then a bunch of Raider fans, even some Jet fans might be smarter, heck some Dallas Cowboy fans might be smarter but he is definitely smarter then a box of rocks.
I had started an “Election 2008” thread thinking we could use that to post stuff but it never got used. Its buried down there somewhere if anyone wants to use it.
John
August 12, 2008 at 4:47 PM #256185ParticipantZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
This brings me back to my comment that in the end, come hell or high water, people are going to believe what they want to, not neccessarily what the facts indicate.
John
August 12, 2008 at 4:47 PM #256366ParticipantZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
This brings me back to my comment that in the end, come hell or high water, people are going to believe what they want to, not neccessarily what the facts indicate.
John
August 12, 2008 at 4:47 PM #256372ParticipantZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
This brings me back to my comment that in the end, come hell or high water, people are going to believe what they want to, not neccessarily what the facts indicate.
John
August 12, 2008 at 4:47 PM #256428ParticipantZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
This brings me back to my comment that in the end, come hell or high water, people are going to believe what they want to, not neccessarily what the facts indicate.
John
August 12, 2008 at 4:47 PM #256476ParticipantZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
This brings me back to my comment that in the end, come hell or high water, people are going to believe what they want to, not neccessarily what the facts indicate.
John
August 12, 2008 at 5:05 PM #256205zk
Participant[quote=jficquette]ZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
John[/quote]
Well, given that I have no reason to doubt that he’s a natural born citizen except the uncorroborated word of a partisan blogger, I believe he’s a natural born citizen.
I’d go to the trouble to try to show you that the evidence indicates quite strongly that the birth certificate issue is simply made up. That one blogger at texasdarlin started a whole cottage industry of innuendo, half-truths, disinformation and outright lies regarding Obama’s birth certificate. But what would be the point? The fact is that, if you decide things based on how you want to feel rather than what the evidence shows, you’re not going to see it any way other than the way you see it right now. If I show you that only partisan bloggers (and those who follow partisan bloggers) are agreeing that his birth certificate was forged, and that virtually everybody else sees the issue as made up, that won’t change your mind. Will it?
August 12, 2008 at 5:05 PM #256386Participant[quote=jficquette]ZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
John[/quote]
Well, given that I have no reason to doubt that he’s a natural born citizen except the uncorroborated word of a partisan blogger, I believe he’s a natural born citizen.
I’d go to the trouble to try to show you that the evidence indicates quite strongly that the birth certificate issue is simply made up. That one blogger at texasdarlin started a whole cottage industry of innuendo, half-truths, disinformation and outright lies regarding Obama’s birth certificate. But what would be the point? The fact is that, if you decide things based on how you want to feel rather than what the evidence shows, you’re not going to see it any way other than the way you see it right now. If I show you that only partisan bloggers (and those who follow partisan bloggers) are agreeing that his birth certificate was forged, and that virtually everybody else sees the issue as made up, that won’t change your mind. Will it?
August 12, 2008 at 5:05 PM #256392Participant[quote=jficquette]ZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
John[/quote]
Well, given that I have no reason to doubt that he’s a natural born citizen except the uncorroborated word of a partisan blogger, I believe he’s a natural born citizen.
I’d go to the trouble to try to show you that the evidence indicates quite strongly that the birth certificate issue is simply made up. That one blogger at texasdarlin started a whole cottage industry of innuendo, half-truths, disinformation and outright lies regarding Obama’s birth certificate. But what would be the point? The fact is that, if you decide things based on how you want to feel rather than what the evidence shows, you’re not going to see it any way other than the way you see it right now. If I show you that only partisan bloggers (and those who follow partisan bloggers) are agreeing that his birth certificate was forged, and that virtually everybody else sees the issue as made up, that won’t change your mind. Will it?
August 12, 2008 at 5:05 PM #256448Participant[quote=jficquette]ZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
John[/quote]
Well, given that I have no reason to doubt that he’s a natural born citizen except the uncorroborated word of a partisan blogger, I believe he’s a natural born citizen.
I’d go to the trouble to try to show you that the evidence indicates quite strongly that the birth certificate issue is simply made up. That one blogger at texasdarlin started a whole cottage industry of innuendo, half-truths, disinformation and outright lies regarding Obama’s birth certificate. But what would be the point? The fact is that, if you decide things based on how you want to feel rather than what the evidence shows, you’re not going to see it any way other than the way you see it right now. If I show you that only partisan bloggers (and those who follow partisan bloggers) are agreeing that his birth certificate was forged, and that virtually everybody else sees the issue as made up, that won’t change your mind. Will it?
August 12, 2008 at 5:05 PM #256497Participant[quote=jficquette]ZK,
If we are speaking of the subject I keep bringing up, Obama and his eligiblilty for the White House then the proof is not some esoteric concept. Its a simple birth certificate for God’s sake. Let’s not make this issue more complicated then it is. He either has one or he doesn’t.
Do you believe that Obama is a natural born citizen and thus eligible for the White House? If so do you base it on a birth certificate or do you base it on the fact that he is the presumed democratic nominee?
John[/quote]
Well, given that I have no reason to doubt that he’s a natural born citizen except the uncorroborated word of a partisan blogger, I believe he’s a natural born citizen.
I’d go to the trouble to try to show you that the evidence indicates quite strongly that the birth certificate issue is simply made up. That one blogger at texasdarlin started a whole cottage industry of innuendo, half-truths, disinformation and outright lies regarding Obama’s birth certificate. But what would be the point? The fact is that, if you decide things based on how you want to feel rather than what the evidence shows, you’re not going to see it any way other than the way you see it right now. If I show you that only partisan bloggers (and those who follow partisan bloggers) are agreeing that his birth certificate was forged, and that virtually everybody else sees the issue as made up, that won’t change your mind. Will it?
August 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM #256210tc
ParticipantHey cant you guys argue on another forum topic. Im tired of seeing this headline. I mean really look at the state of things. God save us all from electing McCain.
August 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM #256391ParticipantHey cant you guys argue on another forum topic. Im tired of seeing this headline. I mean really look at the state of things. God save us all from electing McCain.
August 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM #256398ParticipantHey cant you guys argue on another forum topic. Im tired of seeing this headline. I mean really look at the state of things. God save us all from electing McCain.
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