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August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254415August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254464NotCrankyParticipant
Allan are you some kind of speed reader? Or just a hinterland kook bookworm with a personal meth lab?
August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254187jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
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I thought that you may have read it. I should get the other books and read them too. History is fascinating to me.
We were very fortunate in WW2 that Hitler insisted on running the war rather then leave it up to his Generals. For instance, Hitler thought like a European so rather the slaughter the 300k or so at Dunkirk he let them go thinking England would sue for peace. His Generals would have gone ahead and finished the job and the war could have turned out different.
Hitler however would have been easier to deal with then Stalin so I sort of wished that they would have defeated Russia even if it meant us having to use the Atom Bomb on Berlin at some point.
Stalin was probably the most evil man of the 20th Century. He made Hitler look like a boy scout. There is special place in Hell for him.
Thank you for your comments and insight.
John
August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254356jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
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I thought that you may have read it. I should get the other books and read them too. History is fascinating to me.
We were very fortunate in WW2 that Hitler insisted on running the war rather then leave it up to his Generals. For instance, Hitler thought like a European so rather the slaughter the 300k or so at Dunkirk he let them go thinking England would sue for peace. His Generals would have gone ahead and finished the job and the war could have turned out different.
Hitler however would have been easier to deal with then Stalin so I sort of wished that they would have defeated Russia even if it meant us having to use the Atom Bomb on Berlin at some point.
Stalin was probably the most evil man of the 20th Century. He made Hitler look like a boy scout. There is special place in Hell for him.
Thank you for your comments and insight.
John
August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254363jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
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I thought that you may have read it. I should get the other books and read them too. History is fascinating to me.
We were very fortunate in WW2 that Hitler insisted on running the war rather then leave it up to his Generals. For instance, Hitler thought like a European so rather the slaughter the 300k or so at Dunkirk he let them go thinking England would sue for peace. His Generals would have gone ahead and finished the job and the war could have turned out different.
Hitler however would have been easier to deal with then Stalin so I sort of wished that they would have defeated Russia even if it meant us having to use the Atom Bomb on Berlin at some point.
Stalin was probably the most evil man of the 20th Century. He made Hitler look like a boy scout. There is special place in Hell for him.
Thank you for your comments and insight.
John
August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254420jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
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I thought that you may have read it. I should get the other books and read them too. History is fascinating to me.
We were very fortunate in WW2 that Hitler insisted on running the war rather then leave it up to his Generals. For instance, Hitler thought like a European so rather the slaughter the 300k or so at Dunkirk he let them go thinking England would sue for peace. His Generals would have gone ahead and finished the job and the war could have turned out different.
Hitler however would have been easier to deal with then Stalin so I sort of wished that they would have defeated Russia even if it meant us having to use the Atom Bomb on Berlin at some point.
Stalin was probably the most evil man of the 20th Century. He made Hitler look like a boy scout. There is special place in Hell for him.
Thank you for your comments and insight.
John
August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254469jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
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I thought that you may have read it. I should get the other books and read them too. History is fascinating to me.
We were very fortunate in WW2 that Hitler insisted on running the war rather then leave it up to his Generals. For instance, Hitler thought like a European so rather the slaughter the 300k or so at Dunkirk he let them go thinking England would sue for peace. His Generals would have gone ahead and finished the job and the war could have turned out different.
Hitler however would have been easier to deal with then Stalin so I sort of wished that they would have defeated Russia even if it meant us having to use the Atom Bomb on Berlin at some point.
Stalin was probably the most evil man of the 20th Century. He made Hitler look like a boy scout. There is special place in Hell for him.
Thank you for your comments and insight.
John
August 7, 2008 at 11:34 AM #254192Allan from FallbrookParticipantRus: Meth? Dude, that is an East County thang. Up here, it’s all about the weed, baby!
I average about one to two books a week, so, no, I am not a speed reader. I enjoy reading and pretty much stick to history when it comes to non-fiction. Or physics. Seriously. That’s bad, isn’t it?
Hinterland. Good word. I like “nether regions”, too, but that term can be badly miscontrued. Especially with this crowd. I mean, tedious clique.
August 7, 2008 at 11:34 AM #254361Allan from FallbrookParticipantRus: Meth? Dude, that is an East County thang. Up here, it’s all about the weed, baby!
I average about one to two books a week, so, no, I am not a speed reader. I enjoy reading and pretty much stick to history when it comes to non-fiction. Or physics. Seriously. That’s bad, isn’t it?
Hinterland. Good word. I like “nether regions”, too, but that term can be badly miscontrued. Especially with this crowd. I mean, tedious clique.
August 7, 2008 at 11:34 AM #254368Allan from FallbrookParticipantRus: Meth? Dude, that is an East County thang. Up here, it’s all about the weed, baby!
I average about one to two books a week, so, no, I am not a speed reader. I enjoy reading and pretty much stick to history when it comes to non-fiction. Or physics. Seriously. That’s bad, isn’t it?
Hinterland. Good word. I like “nether regions”, too, but that term can be badly miscontrued. Especially with this crowd. I mean, tedious clique.
August 7, 2008 at 11:34 AM #254425Allan from FallbrookParticipantRus: Meth? Dude, that is an East County thang. Up here, it’s all about the weed, baby!
I average about one to two books a week, so, no, I am not a speed reader. I enjoy reading and pretty much stick to history when it comes to non-fiction. Or physics. Seriously. That’s bad, isn’t it?
Hinterland. Good word. I like “nether regions”, too, but that term can be badly miscontrued. Especially with this crowd. I mean, tedious clique.
August 7, 2008 at 11:34 AM #254474Allan from FallbrookParticipantRus: Meth? Dude, that is an East County thang. Up here, it’s all about the weed, baby!
I average about one to two books a week, so, no, I am not a speed reader. I enjoy reading and pretty much stick to history when it comes to non-fiction. Or physics. Seriously. That’s bad, isn’t it?
Hinterland. Good word. I like “nether regions”, too, but that term can be badly miscontrued. Especially with this crowd. I mean, tedious clique.
August 7, 2008 at 11:47 AM #254203jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Rus: Meth? Dude, that is an East County thang. Up here, it’s all about the weed, baby!
I average about one to two books a week, so, no, I am not a speed reader. I enjoy reading and pretty much stick to history when it comes to non-fiction. Or physics. Seriously. That’s bad, isn’t it?
Hinterland. Good word. I like “nether regions”, too, but that term can be badly miscontrued. Especially with this crowd. I mean, tedious clique.[/quote]
I have gotten to where I only care about non fiction. The truth I guess. I spend a lot of time reading science stuff too. I can easily understand big picture stuff in science, the general idea, but could never be a true technician.
Here is an interesting link I have read a few times.
http://hypergeometricaluniverse.blogspot.com/
John
August 7, 2008 at 11:47 AM #254371jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Rus: Meth? Dude, that is an East County thang. Up here, it’s all about the weed, baby!
I average about one to two books a week, so, no, I am not a speed reader. I enjoy reading and pretty much stick to history when it comes to non-fiction. Or physics. Seriously. That’s bad, isn’t it?
Hinterland. Good word. I like “nether regions”, too, but that term can be badly miscontrued. Especially with this crowd. I mean, tedious clique.[/quote]
I have gotten to where I only care about non fiction. The truth I guess. I spend a lot of time reading science stuff too. I can easily understand big picture stuff in science, the general idea, but could never be a true technician.
Here is an interesting link I have read a few times.
http://hypergeometricaluniverse.blogspot.com/
John
August 7, 2008 at 11:47 AM #254378jficquetteParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Rus: Meth? Dude, that is an East County thang. Up here, it’s all about the weed, baby!
I average about one to two books a week, so, no, I am not a speed reader. I enjoy reading and pretty much stick to history when it comes to non-fiction. Or physics. Seriously. That’s bad, isn’t it?
Hinterland. Good word. I like “nether regions”, too, but that term can be badly miscontrued. Especially with this crowd. I mean, tedious clique.[/quote]
I have gotten to where I only care about non fiction. The truth I guess. I spend a lot of time reading science stuff too. I can easily understand big picture stuff in science, the general idea, but could never be a true technician.
Here is an interesting link I have read a few times.
http://hypergeometricaluniverse.blogspot.com/
John
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