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August 7, 2008 at 11:15 AM #254405August 7, 2008 at 11:15 AM #254454ShadowfaxParticipant
[quote=Casca]What a tedious clique. It’s OK. I’m happy that two hinterland kooks have found love. I will make a couple of final comments though.
For Mr. Been-There-Done-That, most vets guard the privacy of their experience, because all of our experiences are unique. However there is that soul who longs for recognition. I know a fellow who is a cook in the CNG, but claims to have been an SF type in Iraq. Since he stands about 5’2″, his story lacks verisimilitude.
It’s fairly well known that those who have a story to tell, won’t. Who would you tell it to? Someone with no frame of reference who couldn’t possibly understand, or someone who has their own experiences, and doesn’t really care to relive yours? Conversely, those who must always tell their story are suspect.
If I am enigmatic, it is because I know who I am, and I know who you are too. [/quote]
The man has issues about issues he doesn’t even know he has! And I bet the closet door is firmly shut!
August 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM #254177Allan from FallbrookParticipantJohn: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
August 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM #254346Allan from FallbrookParticipantJohn: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
August 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM #254353Allan from FallbrookParticipantJohn: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
August 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM #254410Allan from FallbrookParticipantJohn: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
August 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM #254459Allan from FallbrookParticipantJohn: Thanks, I got the link. I actually own the book and have read it a couple of times before. On the ETO side of WWII, I really liked the Cornelius Ryan books, such as “A Bridge Too Far” and “The Longest Day”.
Some of the newer stuff, such as Antony Beevor’s books on Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, feature information gleaned from the Soviet archives that hasn’t previously been seen before.
The Soviet perspective is interesting because it stands at direct odds with our (America’s) view of both WWII and the ensuing Cold War. When you see events through Russian eyes, it’s easy to see how they viewed Churchill and FDR as being willing to let the Red Army sustain horrific casualties while the British and Americans dawdled when it came to invading Fortress Europe.
I recently read a really good book on Operation Citadel (“Zitadelle”), which was about the final German push in the Kursk pocket in summer 1943. It is really amazing how resilient the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS were after the brutal losses they suffered in 1941 and 1942.
August 7, 2008 at 11:24 AM #254122NotCrankyParticipantI am still not certain if a meeting between Allan and I would end up in a fist fight or high fives. It is just a coincidence that you find me appearing the clique and not yourself I have never been in a clique in my life. Sorry if you feel left out but don’t delude yourself that the unfair groupies are being unfair. I love you too…deep down inside. You will notice by my questionable treatment of gandalf that I am not against you for the sake of camaraderie. I just really disagree with you on these issue…and yeah your style sucks too, whether you take the lowbrow or the highbrow approach.
August 7, 2008 at 11:24 AM #254290NotCrankyParticipantI am still not certain if a meeting between Allan and I would end up in a fist fight or high fives. It is just a coincidence that you find me appearing the clique and not yourself I have never been in a clique in my life. Sorry if you feel left out but don’t delude yourself that the unfair groupies are being unfair. I love you too…deep down inside. You will notice by my questionable treatment of gandalf that I am not against you for the sake of camaraderie. I just really disagree with you on these issue…and yeah your style sucks too, whether you take the lowbrow or the highbrow approach.
August 7, 2008 at 11:24 AM #254297NotCrankyParticipantI am still not certain if a meeting between Allan and I would end up in a fist fight or high fives. It is just a coincidence that you find me appearing the clique and not yourself I have never been in a clique in my life. Sorry if you feel left out but don’t delude yourself that the unfair groupies are being unfair. I love you too…deep down inside. You will notice by my questionable treatment of gandalf that I am not against you for the sake of camaraderie. I just really disagree with you on these issue…and yeah your style sucks too, whether you take the lowbrow or the highbrow approach.
August 7, 2008 at 11:24 AM #254354NotCrankyParticipantI am still not certain if a meeting between Allan and I would end up in a fist fight or high fives. It is just a coincidence that you find me appearing the clique and not yourself I have never been in a clique in my life. Sorry if you feel left out but don’t delude yourself that the unfair groupies are being unfair. I love you too…deep down inside. You will notice by my questionable treatment of gandalf that I am not against you for the sake of camaraderie. I just really disagree with you on these issue…and yeah your style sucks too, whether you take the lowbrow or the highbrow approach.
August 7, 2008 at 11:24 AM #254403NotCrankyParticipantI am still not certain if a meeting between Allan and I would end up in a fist fight or high fives. It is just a coincidence that you find me appearing the clique and not yourself I have never been in a clique in my life. Sorry if you feel left out but don’t delude yourself that the unfair groupies are being unfair. I love you too…deep down inside. You will notice by my questionable treatment of gandalf that I am not against you for the sake of camaraderie. I just really disagree with you on these issue…and yeah your style sucks too, whether you take the lowbrow or the highbrow approach.
August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254182NotCrankyParticipantAllan are you some kind of speed reader? Or just a hinterland kook bookworm with a personal meth lab?
August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254351NotCrankyParticipantAllan are you some kind of speed reader? Or just a hinterland kook bookworm with a personal meth lab?
August 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM #254358NotCrankyParticipantAllan are you some kind of speed reader? Or just a hinterland kook bookworm with a personal meth lab?
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