OT: Obama is dumber than a box of rocks

[Allan from Fallbrook]

gandalf: Geez, you always throw lots of stuff out late at night. I’m reading this really good book and now I’m torn between reading that and responding here.

So, I’ll do the compromise thing and address part of what you said and come back to the remainder tomorrow.

As far as Iraq goes: I am torn, mainly because I did support the case for war and not due to the rationale of having a forward base of operations. I did find the casus belli somewhat compelling and, after Halabja and chem use during Iran-Iraq War and Saddam’s attempts to weaponize botulin, etc, etc, etc, I thought that removing him would have a salutary effect on the region. Had the war been prosecuted more efficiently (according to the DepState plan) we might be looking at a different equation. Of course, as my uncle said, If your aunt had wheels she’d be a teacart, and we’re not. I think we finish what we started and GTFO as soon as proves practicable (and by that I would defer to the theater commander).

Shit. I didn’t want to do chapter and verse on Iraq, but wanted to address the baby boomer question. I agree. I’m 43 and pissed at hell at these self-indulgent, Harley driving, Viagra popping, little pissants. Let the 60s and Vietnam go, man, and get with the program. I am all for new blood and remembering that 1968 is 40 years in the friggin’ past now. That is my major issue with these aging, counterculture “red diaper baby” leftists. They are all rooted in the past, with a soundtrack provided by Bob Dylan, but they all drive Benzes or Beemers and have vacation homes and mutual funds. Viva la revolucion, baby!

I’m with you on the issue of change, I just don’t agree that the agent of change is Obama. It sure as hell ain’t McCain, either (obviously).

[Aecetia]

Allan,
So who is it? While we are on the subject, why the slow count when it comes to announcing the VP? Is each side waiting to see who the other side has? I feel like with McCain’s age, the selection of VP is very important. Likewise, Obama’s choice sends a clear message on what kind of administration it will be or could be.

[Aecetia]

Allan,
So who is it? While we are on the subject, why the slow count when it comes to announcing the VP? Is each side waiting to see who the other side has? I feel like with McCain’s age, the selection of VP is very important. Likewise, Obama’s choice sends a clear message on what kind of administration it will be or could be.

[Aecetia]

Allan,
So who is it? While we are on the subject, why the slow count when it comes to announcing the VP? Is each side waiting to see who the other side has? I feel like with McCain’s age, the selection of VP is very important. Likewise, Obama’s choice sends a clear message on what kind of administration it will be or could be.

[Aecetia]

Allan,
So who is it? While we are on the subject, why the slow count when it comes to announcing the VP? Is each side waiting to see who the other side has? I feel like with McCain’s age, the selection of VP is very important. Likewise, Obama’s choice sends a clear message on what kind of administration it will be or could be.

[Aecetia]

Allan,
So who is it? While we are on the subject, why the slow count when it comes to announcing the VP? Is each side waiting to see who the other side has? I feel like with McCain’s age, the selection of VP is very important. Likewise, Obama’s choice sends a clear message on what kind of administration it will be or could be.

[Casca]

[quote=Butleroftwo]I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak. [/quote]

Well said! Here! Here!

[Casca]

[quote=Butleroftwo]I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak. [/quote]

Well said! Here! Here!

[Casca]

[quote=Butleroftwo]I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak. [/quote]

Well said! Here! Here!

[Casca]

[quote=Butleroftwo]I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak. [/quote]

Well said! Here! Here!

[Casca]

[quote=Butleroftwo]I must have pissed off a box of rocks. Gandalf you keep getting mad instead of stating facts. I don’t have to prove that he is inexperienced. You have to make the case that he has experience. You keep bringing up the word facts but you don’t use any. He is light on substance because he has not talked about anything other than hope, change and Bush. Can he spend one minute talking about his foreign policy experience for example?
I typed that BHO won a walkthrough Senate election against a last minute carpetbagger and you call me a “Racist”.
Let us know when your shift is over at Obama’s campaign so that I can call the kids in. You are a real freak. [/quote]

Well said! Here! Here!

[gandalf]

Yeah, deep down I’m afraid you may be right. What’s that saying? “The more things change, the more they stay the same.” What a depressing thought.

Man, I hope things work out alright. Some scary problems in the world right now. I never used to care but I do now. I got two kids and leaving the place better than when I found it — that’s just understood. I can’t do the opposite. We’ve got to get real about the issues we’re facing.

Susan Eisenhower’s OpEd in the WaPo was the difference for me, in terms of backing BO. We’ve got big issues, and it’s time to turn the page, new generation of leaders. I always liked Eisenhower a lot. So I guess I trust Ike’s grandkid. Sounds stupid, I know. I do alot of things on instinct though. And I’m seldom wrong, although it has been known to happen. My wife is keeping count, I think.

Sleep calls.

[gandalf]

Yeah, deep down I’m afraid you may be right. What’s that saying? “The more things change, the more they stay the same.” What a depressing thought.

Man, I hope things work out alright. Some scary problems in the world right now. I never used to care but I do now. I got two kids and leaving the place better than when I found it — that’s just understood. I can’t do the opposite. We’ve got to get real about the issues we’re facing.

Susan Eisenhower’s OpEd in the WaPo was the difference for me, in terms of backing BO. We’ve got big issues, and it’s time to turn the page, new generation of leaders. I always liked Eisenhower a lot. So I guess I trust Ike’s grandkid. Sounds stupid, I know. I do alot of things on instinct though. And I’m seldom wrong, although it has been known to happen. My wife is keeping count, I think.

Sleep calls.

[gandalf]

Yeah, deep down I’m afraid you may be right. What’s that saying? “The more things change, the more they stay the same.” What a depressing thought.

Man, I hope things work out alright. Some scary problems in the world right now. I never used to care but I do now. I got two kids and leaving the place better than when I found it — that’s just understood. I can’t do the opposite. We’ve got to get real about the issues we’re facing.

Susan Eisenhower’s OpEd in the WaPo was the difference for me, in terms of backing BO. We’ve got big issues, and it’s time to turn the page, new generation of leaders. I always liked Eisenhower a lot. So I guess I trust Ike’s grandkid. Sounds stupid, I know. I do alot of things on instinct though. And I’m seldom wrong, although it has been known to happen. My wife is keeping count, I think.

Sleep calls.

[gandalf]

Yeah, deep down I’m afraid you may be right. What’s that saying? “The more things change, the more they stay the same.” What a depressing thought.

Man, I hope things work out alright. Some scary problems in the world right now. I never used to care but I do now. I got two kids and leaving the place better than when I found it — that’s just understood. I can’t do the opposite. We’ve got to get real about the issues we’re facing.

Susan Eisenhower’s OpEd in the WaPo was the difference for me, in terms of backing BO. We’ve got big issues, and it’s time to turn the page, new generation of leaders. I always liked Eisenhower a lot. So I guess I trust Ike’s grandkid. Sounds stupid, I know. I do alot of things on instinct though. And I’m seldom wrong, although it has been known to happen. My wife is keeping count, I think.

Sleep calls.

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