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June 27, 2010 at 11:14 PM #573360June 28, 2010 at 6:15 AM #572418scaredyclassicParticipant
i think we are encouraged to suffer from this. i read an article in a recent trade journal about “confidence” in my line of work. a successful person said when she was young, she was asked by senior partner if she knew how to do a particular task ona tight timeline. she said ‘sure!” she gave this as an example of the correct way to be at work to move ahead. i understand a can-do attitude, and “fake it till you make it”, the problem is, dude, you may be the guy who leaks a billion barrels int he gulf or whatever. on the other hand, president is so complex a task no one is really competent, i suppose.
June 28, 2010 at 6:15 AM #572511scaredyclassicParticipanti think we are encouraged to suffer from this. i read an article in a recent trade journal about “confidence” in my line of work. a successful person said when she was young, she was asked by senior partner if she knew how to do a particular task ona tight timeline. she said ‘sure!” she gave this as an example of the correct way to be at work to move ahead. i understand a can-do attitude, and “fake it till you make it”, the problem is, dude, you may be the guy who leaks a billion barrels int he gulf or whatever. on the other hand, president is so complex a task no one is really competent, i suppose.
June 28, 2010 at 6:15 AM #573026scaredyclassicParticipanti think we are encouraged to suffer from this. i read an article in a recent trade journal about “confidence” in my line of work. a successful person said when she was young, she was asked by senior partner if she knew how to do a particular task ona tight timeline. she said ‘sure!” she gave this as an example of the correct way to be at work to move ahead. i understand a can-do attitude, and “fake it till you make it”, the problem is, dude, you may be the guy who leaks a billion barrels int he gulf or whatever. on the other hand, president is so complex a task no one is really competent, i suppose.
June 28, 2010 at 6:15 AM #573130scaredyclassicParticipanti think we are encouraged to suffer from this. i read an article in a recent trade journal about “confidence” in my line of work. a successful person said when she was young, she was asked by senior partner if she knew how to do a particular task ona tight timeline. she said ‘sure!” she gave this as an example of the correct way to be at work to move ahead. i understand a can-do attitude, and “fake it till you make it”, the problem is, dude, you may be the guy who leaks a billion barrels int he gulf or whatever. on the other hand, president is so complex a task no one is really competent, i suppose.
June 28, 2010 at 6:15 AM #573420scaredyclassicParticipanti think we are encouraged to suffer from this. i read an article in a recent trade journal about “confidence” in my line of work. a successful person said when she was young, she was asked by senior partner if she knew how to do a particular task ona tight timeline. she said ‘sure!” she gave this as an example of the correct way to be at work to move ahead. i understand a can-do attitude, and “fake it till you make it”, the problem is, dude, you may be the guy who leaks a billion barrels int he gulf or whatever. on the other hand, president is so complex a task no one is really competent, i suppose.
June 28, 2010 at 7:52 AM #572461jpinpbParticipantPresidents are not perfect, concede that. But that’s why you have advisors. So that would go to the article which mentions seeking a circle of, I guess you can say, experts.
I believe that is correct in a way, as I come to Piggington to seek opinions and understanding. I question my knowledge and welcome insight.
June 28, 2010 at 7:52 AM #572555jpinpbParticipantPresidents are not perfect, concede that. But that’s why you have advisors. So that would go to the article which mentions seeking a circle of, I guess you can say, experts.
I believe that is correct in a way, as I come to Piggington to seek opinions and understanding. I question my knowledge and welcome insight.
June 28, 2010 at 7:52 AM #573069jpinpbParticipantPresidents are not perfect, concede that. But that’s why you have advisors. So that would go to the article which mentions seeking a circle of, I guess you can say, experts.
I believe that is correct in a way, as I come to Piggington to seek opinions and understanding. I question my knowledge and welcome insight.
June 28, 2010 at 7:52 AM #573173jpinpbParticipantPresidents are not perfect, concede that. But that’s why you have advisors. So that would go to the article which mentions seeking a circle of, I guess you can say, experts.
I believe that is correct in a way, as I come to Piggington to seek opinions and understanding. I question my knowledge and welcome insight.
June 28, 2010 at 7:52 AM #573465jpinpbParticipantPresidents are not perfect, concede that. But that’s why you have advisors. So that would go to the article which mentions seeking a circle of, I guess you can say, experts.
I believe that is correct in a way, as I come to Piggington to seek opinions and understanding. I question my knowledge and welcome insight.
June 28, 2010 at 8:15 AM #572484eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jpinpb]LOL. A truce. Except it was clear to me it wasn’t meant as political at all. e-dropper has been trying very hard to direct the posts to the topic at hand, even in explaining the use of SP.
I really hope it doesn’t come to not even the mere use of a politician’s name as an example. Should we not mention Clinton’s name as a soccer fan? I think as long as we don’t argue about parties and attacks, we are okay. This was a cerebral topic, IMO and not political.
(Pleeeassse do not deviate from the topic and discuss Clinton, least I suffer e-dropper’s fate – no cover ups or anything – nor wanting to discuss soccer here)[/quote]
Jp: Well stated, and you’re right. Had Eaves used Mother Teresa, or Michael Jackson, or even Adolf Hitler as her example, it would have been a complete non-issue. I think certain posters on this board are now overly sensitive and the mere whiff of potential politics sets them off.
I thought Eaves went out of her way to explain herself, but it fell on completely deaf ears. Well, when you try to use logic, reason and a rationale argument and that fails…[/quote]
jp, jim, alan, and brian, thanks for your input, and your support. I had, indeed, planned that as my last post attempting to explain my actions. I spent too much time on that effort, and now am really crunching the books so as to not flunk my finals.
However, it’s good to see so many of the great minds of Piggs checking in on this thread. Jim, I am honored to have fallen on my sword if that’s what it took to get y’all in on what I consider a great topic. I have continued to follow the series of articles, and it’s is truly compelling. Kudos to davelj for bringing to our attention.
Installment 2 is especially enlightening on the topic of anosognosia, providing much info on Dr. Babinski, the neurologist who introduced the topic in the literature a hundred years ago (also the guy who’s responsible for your physician scraping the bottom of your feet with the sharp end of the reflex hammer during your physical). Anosognosia can be very confusing, but the info in article #2 is illuminating.
June 28, 2010 at 8:15 AM #572578eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jpinpb]LOL. A truce. Except it was clear to me it wasn’t meant as political at all. e-dropper has been trying very hard to direct the posts to the topic at hand, even in explaining the use of SP.
I really hope it doesn’t come to not even the mere use of a politician’s name as an example. Should we not mention Clinton’s name as a soccer fan? I think as long as we don’t argue about parties and attacks, we are okay. This was a cerebral topic, IMO and not political.
(Pleeeassse do not deviate from the topic and discuss Clinton, least I suffer e-dropper’s fate – no cover ups or anything – nor wanting to discuss soccer here)[/quote]
Jp: Well stated, and you’re right. Had Eaves used Mother Teresa, or Michael Jackson, or even Adolf Hitler as her example, it would have been a complete non-issue. I think certain posters on this board are now overly sensitive and the mere whiff of potential politics sets them off.
I thought Eaves went out of her way to explain herself, but it fell on completely deaf ears. Well, when you try to use logic, reason and a rationale argument and that fails…[/quote]
jp, jim, alan, and brian, thanks for your input, and your support. I had, indeed, planned that as my last post attempting to explain my actions. I spent too much time on that effort, and now am really crunching the books so as to not flunk my finals.
However, it’s good to see so many of the great minds of Piggs checking in on this thread. Jim, I am honored to have fallen on my sword if that’s what it took to get y’all in on what I consider a great topic. I have continued to follow the series of articles, and it’s is truly compelling. Kudos to davelj for bringing to our attention.
Installment 2 is especially enlightening on the topic of anosognosia, providing much info on Dr. Babinski, the neurologist who introduced the topic in the literature a hundred years ago (also the guy who’s responsible for your physician scraping the bottom of your feet with the sharp end of the reflex hammer during your physical). Anosognosia can be very confusing, but the info in article #2 is illuminating.
June 28, 2010 at 8:15 AM #573092eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jpinpb]LOL. A truce. Except it was clear to me it wasn’t meant as political at all. e-dropper has been trying very hard to direct the posts to the topic at hand, even in explaining the use of SP.
I really hope it doesn’t come to not even the mere use of a politician’s name as an example. Should we not mention Clinton’s name as a soccer fan? I think as long as we don’t argue about parties and attacks, we are okay. This was a cerebral topic, IMO and not political.
(Pleeeassse do not deviate from the topic and discuss Clinton, least I suffer e-dropper’s fate – no cover ups or anything – nor wanting to discuss soccer here)[/quote]
Jp: Well stated, and you’re right. Had Eaves used Mother Teresa, or Michael Jackson, or even Adolf Hitler as her example, it would have been a complete non-issue. I think certain posters on this board are now overly sensitive and the mere whiff of potential politics sets them off.
I thought Eaves went out of her way to explain herself, but it fell on completely deaf ears. Well, when you try to use logic, reason and a rationale argument and that fails…[/quote]
jp, jim, alan, and brian, thanks for your input, and your support. I had, indeed, planned that as my last post attempting to explain my actions. I spent too much time on that effort, and now am really crunching the books so as to not flunk my finals.
However, it’s good to see so many of the great minds of Piggs checking in on this thread. Jim, I am honored to have fallen on my sword if that’s what it took to get y’all in on what I consider a great topic. I have continued to follow the series of articles, and it’s is truly compelling. Kudos to davelj for bringing to our attention.
Installment 2 is especially enlightening on the topic of anosognosia, providing much info on Dr. Babinski, the neurologist who introduced the topic in the literature a hundred years ago (also the guy who’s responsible for your physician scraping the bottom of your feet with the sharp end of the reflex hammer during your physical). Anosognosia can be very confusing, but the info in article #2 is illuminating.
June 28, 2010 at 8:15 AM #573197eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=jpinpb]LOL. A truce. Except it was clear to me it wasn’t meant as political at all. e-dropper has been trying very hard to direct the posts to the topic at hand, even in explaining the use of SP.
I really hope it doesn’t come to not even the mere use of a politician’s name as an example. Should we not mention Clinton’s name as a soccer fan? I think as long as we don’t argue about parties and attacks, we are okay. This was a cerebral topic, IMO and not political.
(Pleeeassse do not deviate from the topic and discuss Clinton, least I suffer e-dropper’s fate – no cover ups or anything – nor wanting to discuss soccer here)[/quote]
Jp: Well stated, and you’re right. Had Eaves used Mother Teresa, or Michael Jackson, or even Adolf Hitler as her example, it would have been a complete non-issue. I think certain posters on this board are now overly sensitive and the mere whiff of potential politics sets them off.
I thought Eaves went out of her way to explain herself, but it fell on completely deaf ears. Well, when you try to use logic, reason and a rationale argument and that fails…[/quote]
jp, jim, alan, and brian, thanks for your input, and your support. I had, indeed, planned that as my last post attempting to explain my actions. I spent too much time on that effort, and now am really crunching the books so as to not flunk my finals.
However, it’s good to see so many of the great minds of Piggs checking in on this thread. Jim, I am honored to have fallen on my sword if that’s what it took to get y’all in on what I consider a great topic. I have continued to follow the series of articles, and it’s is truly compelling. Kudos to davelj for bringing to our attention.
Installment 2 is especially enlightening on the topic of anosognosia, providing much info on Dr. Babinski, the neurologist who introduced the topic in the literature a hundred years ago (also the guy who’s responsible for your physician scraping the bottom of your feet with the sharp end of the reflex hammer during your physical). Anosognosia can be very confusing, but the info in article #2 is illuminating.
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