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March 27, 2011 at 11:42 AM #682375March 28, 2011 at 9:22 AM #681263
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ParticipantAnother great visualization: http://microsievert.net/
March 28, 2011 at 9:22 AM #681316ParticipantAnother great visualization: http://microsievert.net/
March 28, 2011 at 9:22 AM #681931ParticipantAnother great visualization: http://microsievert.net/
March 28, 2011 at 9:22 AM #682071ParticipantAnother great visualization: http://microsievert.net/
March 28, 2011 at 9:22 AM #682424ParticipantAnother great visualization: http://microsievert.net/
March 28, 2011 at 9:51 PM #681350KSMountain
Participant[quote=afx114]Another great visualization: http://microsievert.net/[/quote]
That 1000 uSv/hr doesn’t look very appealing…I admit this whole thing is flip flopping back and forth like some kind of WWF match.
I have seen headlines that are really misleading. For example, I saw one today “Plutonium found outside plant”. But then you read the article and you see that in 3 of 5 testing areas, the plutonium was evidently only typical background Pu which is observable anywhere in the world. The other two places did appear to be Pu from the plant (which is scary) but as of yet the amounts were not reported as dangerous.
The 1000 uSv/hr is apparently a level that will really make it hard to get humans in there to fix things. Sounds like they’ll need robots to me, which will make everything take longer.
I definitely am still following this thing everyday. I’d say (like the Japanese government and TEPCO say) that the situation is very serious.
I would also say though that I continue to see misleading or erroneous reporting. I think it is just too tempting for many reporters because they can exploit others fear of the unknown and feel they can get away with it…
March 28, 2011 at 9:51 PM #681404Participant[quote=afx114]Another great visualization: http://microsievert.net/[/quote]
That 1000 uSv/hr doesn’t look very appealing…I admit this whole thing is flip flopping back and forth like some kind of WWF match.
I have seen headlines that are really misleading. For example, I saw one today “Plutonium found outside plant”. But then you read the article and you see that in 3 of 5 testing areas, the plutonium was evidently only typical background Pu which is observable anywhere in the world. The other two places did appear to be Pu from the plant (which is scary) but as of yet the amounts were not reported as dangerous.
The 1000 uSv/hr is apparently a level that will really make it hard to get humans in there to fix things. Sounds like they’ll need robots to me, which will make everything take longer.
I definitely am still following this thing everyday. I’d say (like the Japanese government and TEPCO say) that the situation is very serious.
I would also say though that I continue to see misleading or erroneous reporting. I think it is just too tempting for many reporters because they can exploit others fear of the unknown and feel they can get away with it…
March 28, 2011 at 9:51 PM #682020Participant[quote=afx114]Another great visualization: http://microsievert.net/[/quote]
That 1000 uSv/hr doesn’t look very appealing…I admit this whole thing is flip flopping back and forth like some kind of WWF match.
I have seen headlines that are really misleading. For example, I saw one today “Plutonium found outside plant”. But then you read the article and you see that in 3 of 5 testing areas, the plutonium was evidently only typical background Pu which is observable anywhere in the world. The other two places did appear to be Pu from the plant (which is scary) but as of yet the amounts were not reported as dangerous.
The 1000 uSv/hr is apparently a level that will really make it hard to get humans in there to fix things. Sounds like they’ll need robots to me, which will make everything take longer.
I definitely am still following this thing everyday. I’d say (like the Japanese government and TEPCO say) that the situation is very serious.
I would also say though that I continue to see misleading or erroneous reporting. I think it is just too tempting for many reporters because they can exploit others fear of the unknown and feel they can get away with it…
March 28, 2011 at 9:51 PM #682162Participant[quote=afx114]Another great visualization: http://microsievert.net/[/quote]
That 1000 uSv/hr doesn’t look very appealing…I admit this whole thing is flip flopping back and forth like some kind of WWF match.
I have seen headlines that are really misleading. For example, I saw one today “Plutonium found outside plant”. But then you read the article and you see that in 3 of 5 testing areas, the plutonium was evidently only typical background Pu which is observable anywhere in the world. The other two places did appear to be Pu from the plant (which is scary) but as of yet the amounts were not reported as dangerous.
The 1000 uSv/hr is apparently a level that will really make it hard to get humans in there to fix things. Sounds like they’ll need robots to me, which will make everything take longer.
I definitely am still following this thing everyday. I’d say (like the Japanese government and TEPCO say) that the situation is very serious.
I would also say though that I continue to see misleading or erroneous reporting. I think it is just too tempting for many reporters because they can exploit others fear of the unknown and feel they can get away with it…
March 28, 2011 at 9:51 PM #682514Participant[quote=afx114]Another great visualization: http://microsievert.net/[/quote]
That 1000 uSv/hr doesn’t look very appealing…I admit this whole thing is flip flopping back and forth like some kind of WWF match.
I have seen headlines that are really misleading. For example, I saw one today “Plutonium found outside plant”. But then you read the article and you see that in 3 of 5 testing areas, the plutonium was evidently only typical background Pu which is observable anywhere in the world. The other two places did appear to be Pu from the plant (which is scary) but as of yet the amounts were not reported as dangerous.
The 1000 uSv/hr is apparently a level that will really make it hard to get humans in there to fix things. Sounds like they’ll need robots to me, which will make everything take longer.
I definitely am still following this thing everyday. I’d say (like the Japanese government and TEPCO say) that the situation is very serious.
I would also say though that I continue to see misleading or erroneous reporting. I think it is just too tempting for many reporters because they can exploit others fear of the unknown and feel they can get away with it…
March 28, 2011 at 10:34 PM #681360ParticipantNote the dose rate just above the water surface in one of the “troughs” at one of the plants is evidently over 1000 *milli* Sieverts/hour.
So that’s pretty damn high. And I believe that is outside the containment. The accepted total dose (I don’t know if this is per year, or per incident or whatever) is 100 mSv (Japan’s old limit), 250 mSv (Japan’s new limit for this emergency), or 500 mSv (World Health Org).
Even using the highest number, 500 mSv, you’d get that in half an hour hanging out near that trough.
But at other places in the plant the dose rate is in the microsieverts per hour.
Unfortunately you start talking “milli” and “micro” and some folks eyes will start to glaze over. They both start with an “m” but it’s important to try to keep them straight as a milli is a thousand times bigger than a micro.
March 28, 2011 at 10:34 PM #681414ParticipantNote the dose rate just above the water surface in one of the “troughs” at one of the plants is evidently over 1000 *milli* Sieverts/hour.
So that’s pretty damn high. And I believe that is outside the containment. The accepted total dose (I don’t know if this is per year, or per incident or whatever) is 100 mSv (Japan’s old limit), 250 mSv (Japan’s new limit for this emergency), or 500 mSv (World Health Org).
Even using the highest number, 500 mSv, you’d get that in half an hour hanging out near that trough.
But at other places in the plant the dose rate is in the microsieverts per hour.
Unfortunately you start talking “milli” and “micro” and some folks eyes will start to glaze over. They both start with an “m” but it’s important to try to keep them straight as a milli is a thousand times bigger than a micro.
March 28, 2011 at 10:34 PM #682030ParticipantNote the dose rate just above the water surface in one of the “troughs” at one of the plants is evidently over 1000 *milli* Sieverts/hour.
So that’s pretty damn high. And I believe that is outside the containment. The accepted total dose (I don’t know if this is per year, or per incident or whatever) is 100 mSv (Japan’s old limit), 250 mSv (Japan’s new limit for this emergency), or 500 mSv (World Health Org).
Even using the highest number, 500 mSv, you’d get that in half an hour hanging out near that trough.
But at other places in the plant the dose rate is in the microsieverts per hour.
Unfortunately you start talking “milli” and “micro” and some folks eyes will start to glaze over. They both start with an “m” but it’s important to try to keep them straight as a milli is a thousand times bigger than a micro.
March 28, 2011 at 10:34 PM #682172ParticipantNote the dose rate just above the water surface in one of the “troughs” at one of the plants is evidently over 1000 *milli* Sieverts/hour.
So that’s pretty damn high. And I believe that is outside the containment. The accepted total dose (I don’t know if this is per year, or per incident or whatever) is 100 mSv (Japan’s old limit), 250 mSv (Japan’s new limit for this emergency), or 500 mSv (World Health Org).
Even using the highest number, 500 mSv, you’d get that in half an hour hanging out near that trough.
But at other places in the plant the dose rate is in the microsieverts per hour.
Unfortunately you start talking “milli” and “micro” and some folks eyes will start to glaze over. They both start with an “m” but it’s important to try to keep them straight as a milli is a thousand times bigger than a micro.
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