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February 10, 2008 at 3:59 PM #151313February 10, 2008 at 4:00 PM #150962
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
February 10, 2008 at 4:00 PM #151222Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
February 10, 2008 at 4:00 PM #151228Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
February 10, 2008 at 4:00 PM #151246Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
February 10, 2008 at 4:00 PM #151318Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
February 10, 2008 at 4:12 PM #150979gandalf
ParticipantAllan, you’re comments re: Bush above are fairly even and accurate. Many other posts on this thread are just partisan crap. Dishonest and disgusting. Middle-grounders such as myself (Eisenhower was a great president) have had it with the wingnuts. We have had it with the ‘base’.
The issues we face, GRAVE MATTERS, the economy, geopolitics, any number of issues — some of the responsibility tracks back to this partisan culture of dishonesty and infighting. The Clintons were bad. Bush and the current republicans have been worse. If you disagree with Bush’s economic policies but support all the rest, you’re still a partisan. If you equate democrats with communism and republicans with the flag, you’re not just a partisan, you suck.
The republican party of the past 15 years is in the process of being thrown overboard. We may get stuck with another Clinton for a couple of years, but eventually, one way or another, the country is going to turn the page.
February 10, 2008 at 4:12 PM #151242ParticipantAllan, you’re comments re: Bush above are fairly even and accurate. Many other posts on this thread are just partisan crap. Dishonest and disgusting. Middle-grounders such as myself (Eisenhower was a great president) have had it with the wingnuts. We have had it with the ‘base’.
The issues we face, GRAVE MATTERS, the economy, geopolitics, any number of issues — some of the responsibility tracks back to this partisan culture of dishonesty and infighting. The Clintons were bad. Bush and the current republicans have been worse. If you disagree with Bush’s economic policies but support all the rest, you’re still a partisan. If you equate democrats with communism and republicans with the flag, you’re not just a partisan, you suck.
The republican party of the past 15 years is in the process of being thrown overboard. We may get stuck with another Clinton for a couple of years, but eventually, one way or another, the country is going to turn the page.
February 10, 2008 at 4:12 PM #151248ParticipantAllan, you’re comments re: Bush above are fairly even and accurate. Many other posts on this thread are just partisan crap. Dishonest and disgusting. Middle-grounders such as myself (Eisenhower was a great president) have had it with the wingnuts. We have had it with the ‘base’.
The issues we face, GRAVE MATTERS, the economy, geopolitics, any number of issues — some of the responsibility tracks back to this partisan culture of dishonesty and infighting. The Clintons were bad. Bush and the current republicans have been worse. If you disagree with Bush’s economic policies but support all the rest, you’re still a partisan. If you equate democrats with communism and republicans with the flag, you’re not just a partisan, you suck.
The republican party of the past 15 years is in the process of being thrown overboard. We may get stuck with another Clinton for a couple of years, but eventually, one way or another, the country is going to turn the page.
February 10, 2008 at 4:12 PM #151267ParticipantAllan, you’re comments re: Bush above are fairly even and accurate. Many other posts on this thread are just partisan crap. Dishonest and disgusting. Middle-grounders such as myself (Eisenhower was a great president) have had it with the wingnuts. We have had it with the ‘base’.
The issues we face, GRAVE MATTERS, the economy, geopolitics, any number of issues — some of the responsibility tracks back to this partisan culture of dishonesty and infighting. The Clintons were bad. Bush and the current republicans have been worse. If you disagree with Bush’s economic policies but support all the rest, you’re still a partisan. If you equate democrats with communism and republicans with the flag, you’re not just a partisan, you suck.
The republican party of the past 15 years is in the process of being thrown overboard. We may get stuck with another Clinton for a couple of years, but eventually, one way or another, the country is going to turn the page.
February 10, 2008 at 4:12 PM #151338ParticipantAllan, you’re comments re: Bush above are fairly even and accurate. Many other posts on this thread are just partisan crap. Dishonest and disgusting. Middle-grounders such as myself (Eisenhower was a great president) have had it with the wingnuts. We have had it with the ‘base’.
The issues we face, GRAVE MATTERS, the economy, geopolitics, any number of issues — some of the responsibility tracks back to this partisan culture of dishonesty and infighting. The Clintons were bad. Bush and the current republicans have been worse. If you disagree with Bush’s economic policies but support all the rest, you’re still a partisan. If you equate democrats with communism and republicans with the flag, you’re not just a partisan, you suck.
The republican party of the past 15 years is in the process of being thrown overboard. We may get stuck with another Clinton for a couple of years, but eventually, one way or another, the country is going to turn the page.
February 10, 2008 at 4:19 PM #150986Anonymous
GuestHonestly, I think it would be hard for Obama to stomach either of the Clintons. I was thinking along the lines for good for the party.
Bush, not devil worshipping evil, rather self-aborbed, not caring for anyone but himself evil. Unconscionable. And no, I don’t believe his very televised “tears”. What person in their right mind would sit up and continue to read a story to children for 7 minutes while the twin towers were under attack? There are many instances of this behavior/attitude throughout his presidency.
February 10, 2008 at 4:19 PM #151247GuestHonestly, I think it would be hard for Obama to stomach either of the Clintons. I was thinking along the lines for good for the party.
Bush, not devil worshipping evil, rather self-aborbed, not caring for anyone but himself evil. Unconscionable. And no, I don’t believe his very televised “tears”. What person in their right mind would sit up and continue to read a story to children for 7 minutes while the twin towers were under attack? There are many instances of this behavior/attitude throughout his presidency.
February 10, 2008 at 4:19 PM #151253GuestHonestly, I think it would be hard for Obama to stomach either of the Clintons. I was thinking along the lines for good for the party.
Bush, not devil worshipping evil, rather self-aborbed, not caring for anyone but himself evil. Unconscionable. And no, I don’t believe his very televised “tears”. What person in their right mind would sit up and continue to read a story to children for 7 minutes while the twin towers were under attack? There are many instances of this behavior/attitude throughout his presidency.
February 10, 2008 at 4:19 PM #151272GuestHonestly, I think it would be hard for Obama to stomach either of the Clintons. I was thinking along the lines for good for the party.
Bush, not devil worshipping evil, rather self-aborbed, not caring for anyone but himself evil. Unconscionable. And no, I don’t believe his very televised “tears”. What person in their right mind would sit up and continue to read a story to children for 7 minutes while the twin towers were under attack? There are many instances of this behavior/attitude throughout his presidency.
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