OT: Maybe this is a dumb question

[Aecetia]

Not a dumb question at all, but it gets complicated (according to snopes) because of Obama’s mother’s age and how long she was out of the country. “If a parent was a U.S. citizen at time of birth, he/she must have resided in the U.S. for at least 10 years, 5 of which had to be after the age of 16. Obama had only one U.S. parent (his mother)) and she had not resided in the U.S. for at least 5 years after she was 16 because she was 18 when she gave birth to Obama. Thus the claim of him not being ‘natural born'”. That is why the Hawaii issue continues to arise, because that would make him a citizen using the 14th amendment. I think it is a distraction from more important issues.

http://www.presidentsusa.net/qualifications.html
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV]You’re right that he would be an American citizen no matter where he was born because his mother was an American citizen. There is a question whether he would be a “natural born citizen” if he was born outside the US or a US protectorate (and some other exceptions). If he was in fact born in Kenya, he would still be a US citizen. His parents would have taken rediculous steps to plan and prove his Hawaii birth for absolutely no other reason than they planned on him being a candidate for president. No other reason. An absolutely rediculous idea.[/quote]

Yes, sk, except for the office of the president, all US citizens are equal, regardless of how they acquire citizenship.

Rupert Murdoch became an American citizen to avoid limits on foreign ownership of US media. Is Fox and conservatives raising that issue?

I believe that the issue of Obama’s birth is kept alive to fuel xenophobia among the uneducated so that they would vote against their own economic interests.

It’s a way for the conservatives to claim that Obama is not a real American — not one of us:

First, most Americans have never been to Hawaii. And those who have been to Hawaii find that it’s not American enough (mostly Asian).

Second, most Americans have never been abroad, so going to school or being raised abroad, outside of a US military base, is just weird and un-American.

Third, it’s OK for American men to marry foreign women and bring the brides back home to small town America. But it’s plain weird for an American woman (Obama’s mom) to marry foreigners. That woman has clearly been subverted.

Fourth, it’s even weirder for an American woman to move abroad to raise her children. She’s no longer American because she’s married a foreigner.

The whole story of Obama’s childhood is foreign to most American voters. Keeping that story alive brings votes to Republicans.

Unlike some Americans, I believe that Obama’s story is a real American story. His mom is White American with some Indian-American heritage. His dad is from Kenya — high achieving, but a man of flaws and weaknesses, very much a product of post colonial Africa. His sister is 1/2 Indonesian. And his brother-in-law, is Chinese-Canadian. They are all well-educated university professors.

That’s very much a family of a 21st century, outward looking America in a globalized world. I believe that Obama’s story can teach us all something. We need not fear the world. We ought to embrace it, and lead it.

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV]You’re right that he would be an American citizen no matter where he was born because his mother was an American citizen. There is a question whether he would be a “natural born citizen” if he was born outside the US or a US protectorate (and some other exceptions). If he was in fact born in Kenya, he would still be a US citizen. His parents would have taken rediculous steps to plan and prove his Hawaii birth for absolutely no other reason than they planned on him being a candidate for president. No other reason. An absolutely rediculous idea.[/quote]

Yes, sk, except for the office of the president, all US citizens are equal, regardless of how they acquire citizenship.

Rupert Murdoch became an American citizen to avoid limits on foreign ownership of US media. Is Fox and conservatives raising that issue?

I believe that the issue of Obama’s birth is kept alive to fuel xenophobia among the uneducated so that they would vote against their own economic interests.

It’s a way for the conservatives to claim that Obama is not a real American — not one of us:

First, most Americans have never been to Hawaii. And those who have been to Hawaii find that it’s not American enough (mostly Asian).

Second, most Americans have never been abroad, so going to school or being raised abroad, outside of a US military base, is just weird and un-American.

Third, it’s OK for American men to marry foreign women and bring the brides back home to small town America. But it’s plain weird for an American woman (Obama’s mom) to marry foreigners. That woman has clearly been subverted.

Fourth, it’s even weirder for an American woman to move abroad to raise her children. She’s no longer American because she’s married a foreigner.

The whole story of Obama’s childhood is foreign to most American voters. Keeping that story alive brings votes to Republicans.

Unlike some Americans, I believe that Obama’s story is a real American story. His mom is White American with some Indian-American heritage. His dad is from Kenya — high achieving, but a man of flaws and weaknesses, very much a product of post colonial Africa. His sister is 1/2 Indonesian. And his brother-in-law, is Chinese-Canadian. They are all well-educated university professors.

That’s very much a family of a 21st century, outward looking America in a globalized world. I believe that Obama’s story can teach us all something. We need not fear the world. We ought to embrace it, and lead it.

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV]You’re right that he would be an American citizen no matter where he was born because his mother was an American citizen. There is a question whether he would be a “natural born citizen” if he was born outside the US or a US protectorate (and some other exceptions). If he was in fact born in Kenya, he would still be a US citizen. His parents would have taken rediculous steps to plan and prove his Hawaii birth for absolutely no other reason than they planned on him being a candidate for president. No other reason. An absolutely rediculous idea.[/quote]

Yes, sk, except for the office of the president, all US citizens are equal, regardless of how they acquire citizenship.

Rupert Murdoch became an American citizen to avoid limits on foreign ownership of US media. Is Fox and conservatives raising that issue?

I believe that the issue of Obama’s birth is kept alive to fuel xenophobia among the uneducated so that they would vote against their own economic interests.

It’s a way for the conservatives to claim that Obama is not a real American — not one of us:

First, most Americans have never been to Hawaii. And those who have been to Hawaii find that it’s not American enough (mostly Asian).

Second, most Americans have never been abroad, so going to school or being raised abroad, outside of a US military base, is just weird and un-American.

Third, it’s OK for American men to marry foreign women and bring the brides back home to small town America. But it’s plain weird for an American woman (Obama’s mom) to marry foreigners. That woman has clearly been subverted.

Fourth, it’s even weirder for an American woman to move abroad to raise her children. She’s no longer American because she’s married a foreigner.

The whole story of Obama’s childhood is foreign to most American voters. Keeping that story alive brings votes to Republicans.

Unlike some Americans, I believe that Obama’s story is a real American story. His mom is White American with some Indian-American heritage. His dad is from Kenya — high achieving, but a man of flaws and weaknesses, very much a product of post colonial Africa. His sister is 1/2 Indonesian. And his brother-in-law, is Chinese-Canadian. They are all well-educated university professors.

That’s very much a family of a 21st century, outward looking America in a globalized world. I believe that Obama’s story can teach us all something. We need not fear the world. We ought to embrace it, and lead it.

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV]You’re right that he would be an American citizen no matter where he was born because his mother was an American citizen. There is a question whether he would be a “natural born citizen” if he was born outside the US or a US protectorate (and some other exceptions). If he was in fact born in Kenya, he would still be a US citizen. His parents would have taken rediculous steps to plan and prove his Hawaii birth for absolutely no other reason than they planned on him being a candidate for president. No other reason. An absolutely rediculous idea.[/quote]

Yes, sk, except for the office of the president, all US citizens are equal, regardless of how they acquire citizenship.

Rupert Murdoch became an American citizen to avoid limits on foreign ownership of US media. Is Fox and conservatives raising that issue?

I believe that the issue of Obama’s birth is kept alive to fuel xenophobia among the uneducated so that they would vote against their own economic interests.

It’s a way for the conservatives to claim that Obama is not a real American — not one of us:

First, most Americans have never been to Hawaii. And those who have been to Hawaii find that it’s not American enough (mostly Asian).

Second, most Americans have never been abroad, so going to school or being raised abroad, outside of a US military base, is just weird and un-American.

Third, it’s OK for American men to marry foreign women and bring the brides back home to small town America. But it’s plain weird for an American woman (Obama’s mom) to marry foreigners. That woman has clearly been subverted.

Fourth, it’s even weirder for an American woman to move abroad to raise her children. She’s no longer American because she’s married a foreigner.

The whole story of Obama’s childhood is foreign to most American voters. Keeping that story alive brings votes to Republicans.

Unlike some Americans, I believe that Obama’s story is a real American story. His mom is White American with some Indian-American heritage. His dad is from Kenya — high achieving, but a man of flaws and weaknesses, very much a product of post colonial Africa. His sister is 1/2 Indonesian. And his brother-in-law, is Chinese-Canadian. They are all well-educated university professors.

That’s very much a family of a 21st century, outward looking America in a globalized world. I believe that Obama’s story can teach us all something. We need not fear the world. We ought to embrace it, and lead it.

[briansd1]

[quote=SK in CV]You’re right that he would be an American citizen no matter where he was born because his mother was an American citizen. There is a question whether he would be a “natural born citizen” if he was born outside the US or a US protectorate (and some other exceptions). If he was in fact born in Kenya, he would still be a US citizen. His parents would have taken rediculous steps to plan and prove his Hawaii birth for absolutely no other reason than they planned on him being a candidate for president. No other reason. An absolutely rediculous idea.[/quote]

Yes, sk, except for the office of the president, all US citizens are equal, regardless of how they acquire citizenship.

Rupert Murdoch became an American citizen to avoid limits on foreign ownership of US media. Is Fox and conservatives raising that issue?

I believe that the issue of Obama’s birth is kept alive to fuel xenophobia among the uneducated so that they would vote against their own economic interests.

It’s a way for the conservatives to claim that Obama is not a real American — not one of us:

First, most Americans have never been to Hawaii. And those who have been to Hawaii find that it’s not American enough (mostly Asian).

Second, most Americans have never been abroad, so going to school or being raised abroad, outside of a US military base, is just weird and un-American.

Third, it’s OK for American men to marry foreign women and bring the brides back home to small town America. But it’s plain weird for an American woman (Obama’s mom) to marry foreigners. That woman has clearly been subverted.

Fourth, it’s even weirder for an American woman to move abroad to raise her children. She’s no longer American because she’s married a foreigner.

The whole story of Obama’s childhood is foreign to most American voters. Keeping that story alive brings votes to Republicans.

Unlike some Americans, I believe that Obama’s story is a real American story. His mom is White American with some Indian-American heritage. His dad is from Kenya — high achieving, but a man of flaws and weaknesses, very much a product of post colonial Africa. His sister is 1/2 Indonesian. And his brother-in-law, is Chinese-Canadian. They are all well-educated university professors.

That’s very much a family of a 21st century, outward looking America in a globalized world. I believe that Obama’s story can teach us all something. We need not fear the world. We ought to embrace it, and lead it.

[bearishgurl]

brian, that was an awesome post. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

[bearishgurl]

brian, that was an awesome post. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

[bearishgurl]

brian, that was an awesome post. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

[bearishgurl]

brian, that was an awesome post. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

[bearishgurl]

brian, that was an awesome post. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

[scaredyclassic]

Ditto

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