OT: Maybe this is a dumb question

[Scarlett]

Back to the OP:

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution.
Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

• Anyone born inside the United States *
• Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
• Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
• Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
• Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
• A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401—-000-.html

[briansd1]

[quote=anxvariety]BrianSD1, you generously qualify “Americans” with “most”, yet all Republicans are the same, and conservatives are all uneducated.. Your post would come across less arrogant and a lot more engaging if you didn’t generalize yourself. My first reaction is that haven’t learned anything from the symbolic opportunity that you see in Obama becoming President.[/quote]

Back during the good ol’ conservatives days, government didn’t have to tell us how to behave appropriately. Back then, the good people would simply shun the ignorant and the unwashed, or those who associated with the bad folks.

As long as the Republicans choose to be represented by the ignorant and the crude such as Palin and Trump, they deserve the condescension.

The very fact that Obama’s birth certificate is national news shows how low we’ve gotten. And we all know which party got us there.

The New York Times had a great editorial on the subject:

A Certificate of Embarrassment

So it will not quiet the most avid attackers. Several quickly questioned its authenticity. That’s because the birther question was never really about citizenship; it was simply a proxy for those who never accepted the president’s legitimacy, for a toxic mix of reasons involving ideology, deep political anger and, most insidious of all, race. It was originally promulgated by fringe figures of the radical right, but mainstream Republican leaders allowed it to simmer to satisfy those who are inflamed by Mr. Obama’s presence in the White House.

Sarah Palin said the birth certificate issue was “fair game,” and the public was “rightfully” making it an issue. The House speaker, John Boehner, grudgingly said in February that he would take Mr. Obama “at his word” that he was a citizen, a suggestion that the proof was insufficient. He said, however, that it was not his job to end the nonsensical attacks. “The American people have the right to think what they want to think,” he said at the time. That signal was clearly received. Lawmakers in nearly a dozen states introduced bills requiring presidential candidates to release their full birth certificates.

It is inconceivable that this campaign to portray Mr. Obama as the insidious “other” would have been conducted against a white president.

[briansd1]

[quote=anxvariety]BrianSD1, you generously qualify “Americans” with “most”, yet all Republicans are the same, and conservatives are all uneducated.. Your post would come across less arrogant and a lot more engaging if you didn’t generalize yourself. My first reaction is that haven’t learned anything from the symbolic opportunity that you see in Obama becoming President.[/quote]

Back during the good ol’ conservatives days, government didn’t have to tell us how to behave appropriately. Back then, the good people would simply shun the ignorant and the unwashed, or those who associated with the bad folks.

As long as the Republicans choose to be represented by the ignorant and the crude such as Palin and Trump, they deserve the condescension.

The very fact that Obama’s birth certificate is national news shows how low we’ve gotten. And we all know which party got us there.

The New York Times had a great editorial on the subject:

A Certificate of Embarrassment

So it will not quiet the most avid attackers. Several quickly questioned its authenticity. That’s because the birther question was never really about citizenship; it was simply a proxy for those who never accepted the president’s legitimacy, for a toxic mix of reasons involving ideology, deep political anger and, most insidious of all, race. It was originally promulgated by fringe figures of the radical right, but mainstream Republican leaders allowed it to simmer to satisfy those who are inflamed by Mr. Obama’s presence in the White House.

Sarah Palin said the birth certificate issue was “fair game,” and the public was “rightfully” making it an issue. The House speaker, John Boehner, grudgingly said in February that he would take Mr. Obama “at his word” that he was a citizen, a suggestion that the proof was insufficient. He said, however, that it was not his job to end the nonsensical attacks. “The American people have the right to think what they want to think,” he said at the time. That signal was clearly received. Lawmakers in nearly a dozen states introduced bills requiring presidential candidates to release their full birth certificates.

It is inconceivable that this campaign to portray Mr. Obama as the insidious “other” would have been conducted against a white president.

[briansd1]

[quote=anxvariety]BrianSD1, you generously qualify “Americans” with “most”, yet all Republicans are the same, and conservatives are all uneducated.. Your post would come across less arrogant and a lot more engaging if you didn’t generalize yourself. My first reaction is that haven’t learned anything from the symbolic opportunity that you see in Obama becoming President.[/quote]

Back during the good ol’ conservatives days, government didn’t have to tell us how to behave appropriately. Back then, the good people would simply shun the ignorant and the unwashed, or those who associated with the bad folks.

As long as the Republicans choose to be represented by the ignorant and the crude such as Palin and Trump, they deserve the condescension.

The very fact that Obama’s birth certificate is national news shows how low we’ve gotten. And we all know which party got us there.

The New York Times had a great editorial on the subject:

A Certificate of Embarrassment

So it will not quiet the most avid attackers. Several quickly questioned its authenticity. That’s because the birther question was never really about citizenship; it was simply a proxy for those who never accepted the president’s legitimacy, for a toxic mix of reasons involving ideology, deep political anger and, most insidious of all, race. It was originally promulgated by fringe figures of the radical right, but mainstream Republican leaders allowed it to simmer to satisfy those who are inflamed by Mr. Obama’s presence in the White House.

Sarah Palin said the birth certificate issue was “fair game,” and the public was “rightfully” making it an issue. The House speaker, John Boehner, grudgingly said in February that he would take Mr. Obama “at his word” that he was a citizen, a suggestion that the proof was insufficient. He said, however, that it was not his job to end the nonsensical attacks. “The American people have the right to think what they want to think,” he said at the time. That signal was clearly received. Lawmakers in nearly a dozen states introduced bills requiring presidential candidates to release their full birth certificates.

It is inconceivable that this campaign to portray Mr. Obama as the insidious “other” would have been conducted against a white president.

[briansd1]

[quote=anxvariety]BrianSD1, you generously qualify “Americans” with “most”, yet all Republicans are the same, and conservatives are all uneducated.. Your post would come across less arrogant and a lot more engaging if you didn’t generalize yourself. My first reaction is that haven’t learned anything from the symbolic opportunity that you see in Obama becoming President.[/quote]

Back during the good ol’ conservatives days, government didn’t have to tell us how to behave appropriately. Back then, the good people would simply shun the ignorant and the unwashed, or those who associated with the bad folks.

As long as the Republicans choose to be represented by the ignorant and the crude such as Palin and Trump, they deserve the condescension.

The very fact that Obama’s birth certificate is national news shows how low we’ve gotten. And we all know which party got us there.

The New York Times had a great editorial on the subject:

A Certificate of Embarrassment

So it will not quiet the most avid attackers. Several quickly questioned its authenticity. That’s because the birther question was never really about citizenship; it was simply a proxy for those who never accepted the president’s legitimacy, for a toxic mix of reasons involving ideology, deep political anger and, most insidious of all, race. It was originally promulgated by fringe figures of the radical right, but mainstream Republican leaders allowed it to simmer to satisfy those who are inflamed by Mr. Obama’s presence in the White House.

Sarah Palin said the birth certificate issue was “fair game,” and the public was “rightfully” making it an issue. The House speaker, John Boehner, grudgingly said in February that he would take Mr. Obama “at his word” that he was a citizen, a suggestion that the proof was insufficient. He said, however, that it was not his job to end the nonsensical attacks. “The American people have the right to think what they want to think,” he said at the time. That signal was clearly received. Lawmakers in nearly a dozen states introduced bills requiring presidential candidates to release their full birth certificates.

It is inconceivable that this campaign to portray Mr. Obama as the insidious “other” would have been conducted against a white president.

[briansd1]

[quote=anxvariety]BrianSD1, you generously qualify “Americans” with “most”, yet all Republicans are the same, and conservatives are all uneducated.. Your post would come across less arrogant and a lot more engaging if you didn’t generalize yourself. My first reaction is that haven’t learned anything from the symbolic opportunity that you see in Obama becoming President.[/quote]

Back during the good ol’ conservatives days, government didn’t have to tell us how to behave appropriately. Back then, the good people would simply shun the ignorant and the unwashed, or those who associated with the bad folks.

As long as the Republicans choose to be represented by the ignorant and the crude such as Palin and Trump, they deserve the condescension.

The very fact that Obama’s birth certificate is national news shows how low we’ve gotten. And we all know which party got us there.

The New York Times had a great editorial on the subject:

A Certificate of Embarrassment

So it will not quiet the most avid attackers. Several quickly questioned its authenticity. That’s because the birther question was never really about citizenship; it was simply a proxy for those who never accepted the president’s legitimacy, for a toxic mix of reasons involving ideology, deep political anger and, most insidious of all, race. It was originally promulgated by fringe figures of the radical right, but mainstream Republican leaders allowed it to simmer to satisfy those who are inflamed by Mr. Obama’s presence in the White House.

Sarah Palin said the birth certificate issue was “fair game,” and the public was “rightfully” making it an issue. The House speaker, John Boehner, grudgingly said in February that he would take Mr. Obama “at his word” that he was a citizen, a suggestion that the proof was insufficient. He said, however, that it was not his job to end the nonsensical attacks. “The American people have the right to think what they want to think,” he said at the time. That signal was clearly received. Lawmakers in nearly a dozen states introduced bills requiring presidential candidates to release their full birth certificates.

It is inconceivable that this campaign to portray Mr. Obama as the insidious “other” would have been conducted against a white president.

[SK in CV]

And in related news.

Donald Trump Unable to Produce Certificate Proving He’s Not a Festering Pile of Shit

http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-unable-to-produce-certificate-proving-hes-no,20250/

[SK in CV]

And in related news.

Donald Trump Unable to Produce Certificate Proving He’s Not a Festering Pile of Shit

http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-unable-to-produce-certificate-proving-hes-no,20250/

[SK in CV]

And in related news.

Donald Trump Unable to Produce Certificate Proving He’s Not a Festering Pile of Shit

http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-unable-to-produce-certificate-proving-hes-no,20250/

[SK in CV]

And in related news.

Donald Trump Unable to Produce Certificate Proving He’s Not a Festering Pile of Shit

http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-unable-to-produce-certificate-proving-hes-no,20250/

[SK in CV]

And in related news.

Donald Trump Unable to Produce Certificate Proving He’s Not a Festering Pile of Shit

http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-unable-to-produce-certificate-proving-hes-no,20250/

[jstoesz]

you guys are killing me…

Do you think for one second that the aggregate republicans are any dumber than the aggregate democrats?

You hold up the ignorant conspiracy birthers on the right as some shining example of stupidity, but what about the 911 truthers (or whatever they are called)?

What about the inner city welfare queens, the white trash dole subsister? The fact is much of the american populace is not too impressively intelligent.

This onesided narcissism is killing me. If we realize that most people are not too intelligent about politics, isn’t that a powerful example of the need for limited government? After all I do not want some know nothing democrat or republican affecting my life…

[jstoesz]

you guys are killing me…

Do you think for one second that the aggregate republicans are any dumber than the aggregate democrats?

You hold up the ignorant conspiracy birthers on the right as some shining example of stupidity, but what about the 911 truthers (or whatever they are called)?

What about the inner city welfare queens, the white trash dole subsister? The fact is much of the american populace is not too impressively intelligent.

This onesided narcissism is killing me. If we realize that most people are not too intelligent about politics, isn’t that a powerful example of the need for limited government? After all I do not want some know nothing democrat or republican affecting my life…

[jstoesz]

you guys are killing me…

Do you think for one second that the aggregate republicans are any dumber than the aggregate democrats?

You hold up the ignorant conspiracy birthers on the right as some shining example of stupidity, but what about the 911 truthers (or whatever they are called)?

What about the inner city welfare queens, the white trash dole subsister? The fact is much of the american populace is not too impressively intelligent.

This onesided narcissism is killing me. If we realize that most people are not too intelligent about politics, isn’t that a powerful example of the need for limited government? After all I do not want some know nothing democrat or republican affecting my life…

[jstoesz]

you guys are killing me…

Do you think for one second that the aggregate republicans are any dumber than the aggregate democrats?

You hold up the ignorant conspiracy birthers on the right as some shining example of stupidity, but what about the 911 truthers (or whatever they are called)?

What about the inner city welfare queens, the white trash dole subsister? The fact is much of the american populace is not too impressively intelligent.

This onesided narcissism is killing me. If we realize that most people are not too intelligent about politics, isn’t that a powerful example of the need for limited government? After all I do not want some know nothing democrat or republican affecting my life…

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