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February 8, 2009 at 6:01 PM #343452February 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM #343490
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Participant[quote=urbanrealtor]Cool.
Even better.
Not only Marx but fake Marx.
Excellent.
Now I need a fake Ayn Rand quote to balance it out.
Except most of the real stuff qualifies too…
Hmmm…
Perhaps some fake trotsky?
Help me here.[/quote]
how about some fake hillary clinton or fake obama?
February 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM #343028Participant[quote=urbanrealtor]Cool.
Even better.
Not only Marx but fake Marx.
Excellent.
Now I need a fake Ayn Rand quote to balance it out.
Except most of the real stuff qualifies too…
Hmmm…
Perhaps some fake trotsky?
Help me here.[/quote]
how about some fake hillary clinton or fake obama?
February 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM #343353Participant[quote=urbanrealtor]Cool.
Even better.
Not only Marx but fake Marx.
Excellent.
Now I need a fake Ayn Rand quote to balance it out.
Except most of the real stuff qualifies too…
Hmmm…
Perhaps some fake trotsky?
Help me here.[/quote]
how about some fake hillary clinton or fake obama?
February 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM #343462Participant[quote=urbanrealtor]Cool.
Even better.
Not only Marx but fake Marx.
Excellent.
Now I need a fake Ayn Rand quote to balance it out.
Except most of the real stuff qualifies too…
Hmmm…
Perhaps some fake trotsky?
Help me here.[/quote]
how about some fake hillary clinton or fake obama?
February 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM #343586Participant[quote=urbanrealtor]Cool.
Even better.
Not only Marx but fake Marx.
Excellent.
Now I need a fake Ayn Rand quote to balance it out.
Except most of the real stuff qualifies too…
Hmmm…
Perhaps some fake trotsky?
Help me here.[/quote]
how about some fake hillary clinton or fake obama?
February 8, 2009 at 7:35 PM #343510LuckyInOC
ParticipantCommunist Manifesto, II — Proletarians and Commuists:
These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
– some have argued here, high mortgages with low interest rates backed by the Gov’t are just rents…2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
– please define heavy, progressive and graduated already exists since WWII…3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
– We still have some rights and fighting for those…4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
– via inflation and devaluation…5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
– I believe this happened in 1913 with the Fed.6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
– They are still working on this one…7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
– Ford, GM, and Chrysler might be the first…8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
– Large Corporate farms, few family farms…9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
– High housing in large cities force people to relocate to lower cost cities and states…10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.
– doesn’t say good education, only free.Lucky In OC…
February 8, 2009 at 7:35 PM #343482ParticipantCommunist Manifesto, II — Proletarians and Commuists:
These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
– some have argued here, high mortgages with low interest rates backed by the Gov’t are just rents…2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
– please define heavy, progressive and graduated already exists since WWII…3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
– We still have some rights and fighting for those…4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
– via inflation and devaluation…5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
– I believe this happened in 1913 with the Fed.6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
– They are still working on this one…7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
– Ford, GM, and Chrysler might be the first…8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
– Large Corporate farms, few family farms…9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
– High housing in large cities force people to relocate to lower cost cities and states…10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.
– doesn’t say good education, only free.Lucky In OC…
February 8, 2009 at 7:35 PM #343048ParticipantCommunist Manifesto, II — Proletarians and Commuists:
These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
– some have argued here, high mortgages with low interest rates backed by the Gov’t are just rents…2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
– please define heavy, progressive and graduated already exists since WWII…3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
– We still have some rights and fighting for those…4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
– via inflation and devaluation…5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
– I believe this happened in 1913 with the Fed.6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
– They are still working on this one…7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
– Ford, GM, and Chrysler might be the first…8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
– Large Corporate farms, few family farms…9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
– High housing in large cities force people to relocate to lower cost cities and states…10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.
– doesn’t say good education, only free.Lucky In OC…
February 8, 2009 at 7:35 PM #343374ParticipantCommunist Manifesto, II — Proletarians and Commuists:
These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
– some have argued here, high mortgages with low interest rates backed by the Gov’t are just rents…2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
– please define heavy, progressive and graduated already exists since WWII…3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
– We still have some rights and fighting for those…4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
– via inflation and devaluation…5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
– I believe this happened in 1913 with the Fed.6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
– They are still working on this one…7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
– Ford, GM, and Chrysler might be the first…8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
– Large Corporate farms, few family farms…9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
– High housing in large cities force people to relocate to lower cost cities and states…10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.
– doesn’t say good education, only free.Lucky In OC…
February 8, 2009 at 7:35 PM #343606ParticipantCommunist Manifesto, II — Proletarians and Commuists:
These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
– some have argued here, high mortgages with low interest rates backed by the Gov’t are just rents…2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
– please define heavy, progressive and graduated already exists since WWII…3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
– We still have some rights and fighting for those…4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
– via inflation and devaluation…5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
– I believe this happened in 1913 with the Fed.6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
– They are still working on this one…7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
– Ford, GM, and Chrysler might be the first…8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
– Large Corporate farms, few family farms…9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
– High housing in large cities force people to relocate to lower cost cities and states…10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.
– doesn’t say good education, only free.Lucky In OC…
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