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March 6, 2011 at 5:06 PM #675127March 6, 2011 at 7:12 PM #673998patientrenterParticipant
[quote=sdrealtor]I know several doctors that work internationally and spend time in those higher ranked systems. They wouldnt agree with our system not having the best medical care in the world. Alot of it has to do with the lifestyle people live in these countries. Many of these countries citizen’s subsist on diets with far more fresh fish, fruits and vegatables than we eat in the US. They also lead more active lives than we do…. [/quote]
Yes, I pity those French “subsisting” on their terrible diets.
We know how to do things right here in the US of A: Eat too much food, especially unhealthy food; work such long hours that we can barely exercise or recreate; and then spend a fortune on trying to fix the inevitable problems. I can see how US doctors who financially benefit from all this would see our health system as better than the French, or the Japanese, or a host of others.
March 6, 2011 at 7:12 PM #674804patientrenterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]I know several doctors that work internationally and spend time in those higher ranked systems. They wouldnt agree with our system not having the best medical care in the world. Alot of it has to do with the lifestyle people live in these countries. Many of these countries citizen’s subsist on diets with far more fresh fish, fruits and vegatables than we eat in the US. They also lead more active lives than we do…. [/quote]
Yes, I pity those French “subsisting” on their terrible diets.
We know how to do things right here in the US of A: Eat too much food, especially unhealthy food; work such long hours that we can barely exercise or recreate; and then spend a fortune on trying to fix the inevitable problems. I can see how US doctors who financially benefit from all this would see our health system as better than the French, or the Japanese, or a host of others.
March 6, 2011 at 7:12 PM #674667patientrenterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]I know several doctors that work internationally and spend time in those higher ranked systems. They wouldnt agree with our system not having the best medical care in the world. Alot of it has to do with the lifestyle people live in these countries. Many of these countries citizen’s subsist on diets with far more fresh fish, fruits and vegatables than we eat in the US. They also lead more active lives than we do…. [/quote]
Yes, I pity those French “subsisting” on their terrible diets.
We know how to do things right here in the US of A: Eat too much food, especially unhealthy food; work such long hours that we can barely exercise or recreate; and then spend a fortune on trying to fix the inevitable problems. I can see how US doctors who financially benefit from all this would see our health system as better than the French, or the Japanese, or a host of others.
March 6, 2011 at 7:12 PM #675152patientrenterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]I know several doctors that work internationally and spend time in those higher ranked systems. They wouldnt agree with our system not having the best medical care in the world. Alot of it has to do with the lifestyle people live in these countries. Many of these countries citizen’s subsist on diets with far more fresh fish, fruits and vegatables than we eat in the US. They also lead more active lives than we do…. [/quote]
Yes, I pity those French “subsisting” on their terrible diets.
We know how to do things right here in the US of A: Eat too much food, especially unhealthy food; work such long hours that we can barely exercise or recreate; and then spend a fortune on trying to fix the inevitable problems. I can see how US doctors who financially benefit from all this would see our health system as better than the French, or the Japanese, or a host of others.
March 6, 2011 at 7:12 PM #674056patientrenterParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]I know several doctors that work internationally and spend time in those higher ranked systems. They wouldnt agree with our system not having the best medical care in the world. Alot of it has to do with the lifestyle people live in these countries. Many of these countries citizen’s subsist on diets with far more fresh fish, fruits and vegatables than we eat in the US. They also lead more active lives than we do…. [/quote]
Yes, I pity those French “subsisting” on their terrible diets.
We know how to do things right here in the US of A: Eat too much food, especially unhealthy food; work such long hours that we can barely exercise or recreate; and then spend a fortune on trying to fix the inevitable problems. I can see how US doctors who financially benefit from all this would see our health system as better than the French, or the Japanese, or a host of others.
March 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM #674682sdrealtorParticipantThe doctors I was referring to dont work in this system they work internationally consulting for other countries, training physicians, caring for US corp employees in other countries on a contract basis and helping set up health care systems in those countries. They dont benefit at all from financials in our systems. The only time they are in the US is to visit friends and family.
March 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM #674819sdrealtorParticipantThe doctors I was referring to dont work in this system they work internationally consulting for other countries, training physicians, caring for US corp employees in other countries on a contract basis and helping set up health care systems in those countries. They dont benefit at all from financials in our systems. The only time they are in the US is to visit friends and family.
March 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM #674013sdrealtorParticipantThe doctors I was referring to dont work in this system they work internationally consulting for other countries, training physicians, caring for US corp employees in other countries on a contract basis and helping set up health care systems in those countries. They dont benefit at all from financials in our systems. The only time they are in the US is to visit friends and family.
March 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM #674071sdrealtorParticipantThe doctors I was referring to dont work in this system they work internationally consulting for other countries, training physicians, caring for US corp employees in other countries on a contract basis and helping set up health care systems in those countries. They dont benefit at all from financials in our systems. The only time they are in the US is to visit friends and family.
March 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM #675167sdrealtorParticipantThe doctors I was referring to dont work in this system they work internationally consulting for other countries, training physicians, caring for US corp employees in other countries on a contract basis and helping set up health care systems in those countries. They dont benefit at all from financials in our systems. The only time they are in the US is to visit friends and family.
March 6, 2011 at 8:18 PM #674028EugeneParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]I know several doctors that work internationally and spend time in those higher ranked systems. They wouldnt agree with our system not having the best medical care in the world. Alot of it has to do with the lifestyle people live in these countries. Many of these countries citizen’s subsist on diets with far more fresh fish, fruits and vegatables than we eat in the US. They also lead more active lives than we do. The average american lives are far more unhealthy lifestyle and places a bigger burden on the health care system here. When the leaders of those countries get sick, where do you think they go for medical care?[/quote]
I wonder if there’s a chart of “unhealthiness” of lifestyles. Talking about life expectancies is too simplistic. At the very least, we should have an answer, does the US have higher age-standardized rates of CVD, cancer, etc., leading to a lower life expectancy? Or is it less effective at curing CVD & cancer? Or maybe a big part of the gap can be explained away without focusing on expensive forms of healthcare for the elderly, by looking strictly at infant mortality, homicides, and traffic accidents?
Of course, that still does not avoid the question why US healthcare is so expensive. (My own position is that it’s primarily because doctors are severely overpaid compared to all other countries in that chart.)
March 6, 2011 at 8:18 PM #674697EugeneParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]I know several doctors that work internationally and spend time in those higher ranked systems. They wouldnt agree with our system not having the best medical care in the world. Alot of it has to do with the lifestyle people live in these countries. Many of these countries citizen’s subsist on diets with far more fresh fish, fruits and vegatables than we eat in the US. They also lead more active lives than we do. The average american lives are far more unhealthy lifestyle and places a bigger burden on the health care system here. When the leaders of those countries get sick, where do you think they go for medical care?[/quote]
I wonder if there’s a chart of “unhealthiness” of lifestyles. Talking about life expectancies is too simplistic. At the very least, we should have an answer, does the US have higher age-standardized rates of CVD, cancer, etc., leading to a lower life expectancy? Or is it less effective at curing CVD & cancer? Or maybe a big part of the gap can be explained away without focusing on expensive forms of healthcare for the elderly, by looking strictly at infant mortality, homicides, and traffic accidents?
Of course, that still does not avoid the question why US healthcare is so expensive. (My own position is that it’s primarily because doctors are severely overpaid compared to all other countries in that chart.)
March 6, 2011 at 8:18 PM #675182EugeneParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]I know several doctors that work internationally and spend time in those higher ranked systems. They wouldnt agree with our system not having the best medical care in the world. Alot of it has to do with the lifestyle people live in these countries. Many of these countries citizen’s subsist on diets with far more fresh fish, fruits and vegatables than we eat in the US. They also lead more active lives than we do. The average american lives are far more unhealthy lifestyle and places a bigger burden on the health care system here. When the leaders of those countries get sick, where do you think they go for medical care?[/quote]
I wonder if there’s a chart of “unhealthiness” of lifestyles. Talking about life expectancies is too simplistic. At the very least, we should have an answer, does the US have higher age-standardized rates of CVD, cancer, etc., leading to a lower life expectancy? Or is it less effective at curing CVD & cancer? Or maybe a big part of the gap can be explained away without focusing on expensive forms of healthcare for the elderly, by looking strictly at infant mortality, homicides, and traffic accidents?
Of course, that still does not avoid the question why US healthcare is so expensive. (My own position is that it’s primarily because doctors are severely overpaid compared to all other countries in that chart.)
March 6, 2011 at 8:18 PM #674834EugeneParticipant[quote=sdrealtor]I know several doctors that work internationally and spend time in those higher ranked systems. They wouldnt agree with our system not having the best medical care in the world. Alot of it has to do with the lifestyle people live in these countries. Many of these countries citizen’s subsist on diets with far more fresh fish, fruits and vegatables than we eat in the US. They also lead more active lives than we do. The average american lives are far more unhealthy lifestyle and places a bigger burden on the health care system here. When the leaders of those countries get sick, where do you think they go for medical care?[/quote]
I wonder if there’s a chart of “unhealthiness” of lifestyles. Talking about life expectancies is too simplistic. At the very least, we should have an answer, does the US have higher age-standardized rates of CVD, cancer, etc., leading to a lower life expectancy? Or is it less effective at curing CVD & cancer? Or maybe a big part of the gap can be explained away without focusing on expensive forms of healthcare for the elderly, by looking strictly at infant mortality, homicides, and traffic accidents?
Of course, that still does not avoid the question why US healthcare is so expensive. (My own position is that it’s primarily because doctors are severely overpaid compared to all other countries in that chart.)
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