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August 23, 2008 at 10:33 AM #260783August 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM #260506
Arraya
ParticipantCollectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections.
August 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM #260704ParticipantCollectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections.
August 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM #260715ParticipantCollectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections.
August 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM #260763ParticipantCollectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections.
August 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM #260803ParticipantCollectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections.
August 23, 2008 at 11:16 AM #260526jficquette
Participant[quote=arraya]Collectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections. [/quote]
Stalin killed 20 million of his own people in the early, mid 30’s by starving them to death and in military purges.
When is the last time a society that put the individual first murdered 20 million of its own?? When is the last time America killed 20 million of its own on purpose?? No difference between America and Russia??
You can’t possibly say that Russia was not a collective state.
Here is a definition of Communism:
Communism is the idea of a free society with no division or alienation, where mankind is free from oppression and scarcity. A communist society would have no governments, countries, or class divisions. In Marxism-Leninism, Socialism is the intermediate system between capitalism and communism, when the government is in the process of changing the means of ownership from private, to collective ownership.”
In theory Collective ownership is the cornerstone of communism, in practice its just an excuse for thugs to take over, which is what is happening here with the socialist democratic agenda.
John
August 23, 2008 at 11:16 AM #260724Participant[quote=arraya]Collectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections. [/quote]
Stalin killed 20 million of his own people in the early, mid 30’s by starving them to death and in military purges.
When is the last time a society that put the individual first murdered 20 million of its own?? When is the last time America killed 20 million of its own on purpose?? No difference between America and Russia??
You can’t possibly say that Russia was not a collective state.
Here is a definition of Communism:
Communism is the idea of a free society with no division or alienation, where mankind is free from oppression and scarcity. A communist society would have no governments, countries, or class divisions. In Marxism-Leninism, Socialism is the intermediate system between capitalism and communism, when the government is in the process of changing the means of ownership from private, to collective ownership.”
In theory Collective ownership is the cornerstone of communism, in practice its just an excuse for thugs to take over, which is what is happening here with the socialist democratic agenda.
John
August 23, 2008 at 11:16 AM #260735Participant[quote=arraya]Collectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections. [/quote]
Stalin killed 20 million of his own people in the early, mid 30’s by starving them to death and in military purges.
When is the last time a society that put the individual first murdered 20 million of its own?? When is the last time America killed 20 million of its own on purpose?? No difference between America and Russia??
You can’t possibly say that Russia was not a collective state.
Here is a definition of Communism:
Communism is the idea of a free society with no division or alienation, where mankind is free from oppression and scarcity. A communist society would have no governments, countries, or class divisions. In Marxism-Leninism, Socialism is the intermediate system between capitalism and communism, when the government is in the process of changing the means of ownership from private, to collective ownership.”
In theory Collective ownership is the cornerstone of communism, in practice its just an excuse for thugs to take over, which is what is happening here with the socialist democratic agenda.
John
August 23, 2008 at 11:16 AM #260782Participant[quote=arraya]Collectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections. [/quote]
Stalin killed 20 million of his own people in the early, mid 30’s by starving them to death and in military purges.
When is the last time a society that put the individual first murdered 20 million of its own?? When is the last time America killed 20 million of its own on purpose?? No difference between America and Russia??
You can’t possibly say that Russia was not a collective state.
Here is a definition of Communism:
Communism is the idea of a free society with no division or alienation, where mankind is free from oppression and scarcity. A communist society would have no governments, countries, or class divisions. In Marxism-Leninism, Socialism is the intermediate system between capitalism and communism, when the government is in the process of changing the means of ownership from private, to collective ownership.”
In theory Collective ownership is the cornerstone of communism, in practice its just an excuse for thugs to take over, which is what is happening here with the socialist democratic agenda.
John
August 23, 2008 at 11:16 AM #260824Participant[quote=arraya]Collectivism has been tried by the Soviet Union and was proved to not work.
Humans are individuals not sheep.
JohnNo it has not. The soviet union was a kleptocratic oligarchy just as the US is today. We just mask it better with pretend elections. [/quote]
Stalin killed 20 million of his own people in the early, mid 30’s by starving them to death and in military purges.
When is the last time a society that put the individual first murdered 20 million of its own?? When is the last time America killed 20 million of its own on purpose?? No difference between America and Russia??
You can’t possibly say that Russia was not a collective state.
Here is a definition of Communism:
Communism is the idea of a free society with no division or alienation, where mankind is free from oppression and scarcity. A communist society would have no governments, countries, or class divisions. In Marxism-Leninism, Socialism is the intermediate system between capitalism and communism, when the government is in the process of changing the means of ownership from private, to collective ownership.”
In theory Collective ownership is the cornerstone of communism, in practice its just an excuse for thugs to take over, which is what is happening here with the socialist democratic agenda.
John
August 23, 2008 at 11:21 AM #260546afx114
ParticipantSine John is so black & white on the subject, he also believes we should banish the Police, Fire Department, National Park Service, Coast Guard, Border Patrol, and of course the military. Those are all results of communism. Every man for himself!
August 23, 2008 at 11:21 AM #260745ParticipantSine John is so black & white on the subject, he also believes we should banish the Police, Fire Department, National Park Service, Coast Guard, Border Patrol, and of course the military. Those are all results of communism. Every man for himself!
August 23, 2008 at 11:21 AM #260754ParticipantSine John is so black & white on the subject, he also believes we should banish the Police, Fire Department, National Park Service, Coast Guard, Border Patrol, and of course the military. Those are all results of communism. Every man for himself!
August 23, 2008 at 11:21 AM #260802ParticipantSine John is so black & white on the subject, he also believes we should banish the Police, Fire Department, National Park Service, Coast Guard, Border Patrol, and of course the military. Those are all results of communism. Every man for himself!
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