ot. hs graduation

[scaredyclassic]

crotchety middle aged man that I am, the speeches from administration and students irked me.

also, lots of real fireworks at the end. overdone. the whole event in every aspect needs to tone it down.

[svelte]

Yeah, I don’t think I’ve been to a HS or college graduation where the speeches didn’t make me cringe.

And now I don’t remember a single thing that was said in any of them, including my HS and college graduations. Only memories I have is what is shown in a few photographs and one particular song chosen as the theme, I think it was at either my HS or college ceremony: Pablo Cruise “Find Your Place In The Sun”. Must’ve been HS, can’t imagine it being played at the university graduation.

[svelte]

Yeah, I don’t think I’ve been to a HS or college graduation where the speeches didn’t make me cringe.

And now I don’t remember a single thing that was said in any of them, including my HS and college graduations. Only memories I have is what is shown in a few photographs and one particular song chosen as the theme, I think it was at either my HS or college ceremony: Pablo Cruise “Find Your Place In The Sun”. Must’ve been HS, can’t imagine it being played at the university graduation.

[The-Shoveler]

I think I remember the HS Grad speech,

It was something like

You’er not special, you’er most likely just cogs in the machine.
Welcome to the machine.

Yep I think that was the gist of it

But then again that was in the 70’s and things were a little fuzzy.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=The-Shoveler]I think I remember the HS Grad speech,

It was something like

You’er not special, you’er most likely just cogs in the machine.
Welcome to the machine.

Yep I think that was the gist of it

But then again that was in the 70’s and things were a little fuzzy.[/quote]

Funny isn’t it? all those 70s kids could easily get into the machine and work. today the principal at the graduation I attended used the word amazing 10 times to describe the class who will likely be 50 Perc unemployed and avg. 100k in debt in just 4 years.

[scaredyclassic]

back in the 70s, the clash was complaining about jobs kids kill for today!!

Career Opportunities Lyrics
The offered me the office, offered me the leadership
They said I’d better take anything they’d got
Do you want to make tea at the BBC?
Do you want to be, do you really want to be a cop?

Career opportunities are the ones that never knock
Every job they offer you is to keep you out the dock
Career opportunity, the ones that never knock

I hate the army an’ I hate the R.A.F.
I don’t want to go fighting in the tropical heat
I hate the civil service rules
And I won’t open letter bombs for you

Bus driver….ambulance man….ticket inspector

They’re gonna have to introduce conscription
They’re gonna have to take away my prescription
If they want to get me making toys
If they want to get me, well, I got no choice

[scaredyclassic]

the world changes. most of those excited kids are unnecessary except to breed and consume.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=The-Shoveler]I think I remember the HS Grad speech,

It was something like

You’er not special, you’er most likely just cogs in the machine.
Welcome to the machine.

Yep I think that was the gist of it

But then again that was in the 70’s and things were a little fuzzy.[/quote]

today’s comparable speech would be, robots do everything you can do but better and faster, the best you can hope for is a universal basic income, legal weed and hopefully a,few gallons of water rations. you’re so fucking special, you snowflake u, problem is all the snowflakes melted with global warming…

[bearishgurl]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=The-Shoveler]I think I remember the HS Grad speech,

It was something like

You’er not special, you’er most likely just cogs in the machine.
Welcome to the machine.

Yep I think that was the gist of it

But then again that was in the 70’s and things were a little fuzzy.[/quote]

today’s comparable speech would be, robots do everything you can do but better and faster, the best you can hope for is a universal basic income, legal weed and hopefully a,few gallons of water rations. you’re so fucking special, you snowflake u, problem is all the snowflakes melted with global warming…[/quote]scaredy, I get all this. I got it over 15 years ago. All you can do is counsel your recent graduate to 1) NOT take out any student loans behind your back; 2) major in an occupation that no humans in India (or robots) can replace and declare that major ASAP (NOW would be preferable); and 3) take summer classes if they have to in order to graduate in four years.

It’s okay, scaredy. All the special snowflakes out there working at Starbucks at age 28 (some with a Bachelor’s AND Master’s degree) are doing so because 1) they majored in the “wrong” field, and 2) they refuse to leave their “comfort zone” (parent’s home/hometown) and thus won’t apply for entry level positions in another county or state to get their foot in the door to start their careers.

The above description of an “indebted do-nothing college graduate” is particularly prevalent in SD County as well as the rest of SoCal. These kids don’t want to leave our weather and the “comforts” of parents’ homes and neighborhoods (backyard pool/beach neighborhood, etc) and the parents are taking them back after college graduation open-endedly with no plan to ever be on their own.

This phenomenon isn’t near as prevalent in “flyover country” where its residents don’t enjoy nearly as much of a “comfortable life” that we in SoCal do. Nor is it that prevalent on the east coast. When I moved to SD in my early 20’s, a lot of my “contemporaries” (mostly co-workers) were FT college students living with parents. Some were graduate students who were several years older than me living with parents. The “coddled-teen-turned-coddled-adult” phenomenon was present in SD County ~40 years ago and is still present today. While living in my own rented apt (and paying my own rent), I was amazed that all these people my own age and older were still living with parents at 22-30+ years old and had no plans to move out (it only took 4 yrs to graduate from college back then and students didn’t graduate with debt as CC/UC/CSU were “free” or had a very nominal cost). I was especially amazed at a couple of my co-workers who were unmarried single moms living with their parent(s) and who had more child(ren) while living with parents! Over 80% of my own HS class (in “flyover country”) moved away from home ASAP after HS graduation (some the very next day or weekend, after they recovered from all the grad parties). A couple dozen of my classmates had their own apt all during their senior year in HS and worked at least 32 hrs per week to pay for it. A handful of my classmates were married their entire senior year and several of my married female classmates were in various stages of pregnancy in their caps and gowns at graduation. About 8-10% of the males in my HS class enlisted in the military the summer after our graduation. About 17% of my HS class immediately went on to college away from home and another ~3% of us (me incl) attended college as a freshman while living in the same (or adjacent) city we grew up in (junior college and state college). Almost NONE of us stayed “home” (parent[s] homes) to work FT after HS or while attending college … even as a freshman!

It seems as if part of the “SoCal culture” is to hang with mom and/or dad as long as possible for ALL races/nationalities. There are people on my block (2) who are 65-70 years old who never moved out of mom and dad’s house. Of course, they each now just have one parent left whom they are now assisting in their day to day lives.

[njtosd]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=The-Shoveler]I think I remember the HS Grad speech,

It was something like

You’er not special, you’er most likely just cogs in the machine.
Welcome to the machine.

Yep I think that was the gist of it

But then again that was in the 70’s and things were a little fuzzy.[/quote]

Funny isn’t it? all those 70s kids could easily get into the machine and work. today the principal at the graduation I attended used the word amazing 10 times to describe the class who will likely be 50 Perc unemployed and avg. 100k in debt in just 4 years.[/quote]

I propose a moratorium on the use of the word “amazing” by those employed by school districts. It has become a throwaway word to use when they can’t think of anything specific to say. There are a lot of wonderful adjectives out there that never get used. I hear a lot of “phenomenal” and “fantastic”. How about honest, responsible, ambitious, curious, persistent, resilient, etc. etc.

My husband has to be out of town for work and may have to miss a middle school “promotion”. I had to stop myself from saying that it wasn’t a big deal because the ceremony is a bit of a farce. Actually, my daughter is playing in the jazz band – which, in my opinion, is good enough to do weddings. Frankly, I think they should do it so that we can cut down the fund raising.

Speaking of jazz, scaredy, are under 21 people permitted at the Temecula jazz performances you were mentioning a few weeks ago?

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=njtosd][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=The-Shoveler]I think I remember the HS Grad speech,

It was something like

You’er not special, you’er most likely just cogs in the machine.
Welcome to the machine.

Yep I think that was the gist of it

But then again that was in the 70’s and things were a little fuzzy.[/quote]

Funny isn’t it? all those 70s kids could easily get into the machine and work. today the principal at the graduation I attended used the word amazing 10 times to describe the class who will likely be 50 Perc unemployed and avg. 100k in debt in just 4 years.[/quote]

I propose a moratorium on the use of the word “amazing” by those employed by school districts. It has become a throwaway word to use when they can’t think of anything specific to say. There are a lot of wonderful adjectives out there that never get used. I hear a lot of “phenomenal” and “fantastic”. How about honest, responsible, ambitious, curious, persistent, resilient, etc. etc.

My husband has to be out of town for work and may have to miss a middle school “promotion”. I had to stop myself from saying that it wasn’t a big deal because the ceremony is a bit of a farce. Actually, my daughter is playing in the jazz band – which, in my opinion, is good enough to do weddings. Frankly, I think they should do it so that we can cut down the fund raising.

Speaking of jazz, scaredy, are under 21 people permitted at the Temecula jazz performances you were mentioning a few weeks ago?[/quote]

Yeah. amazing should be banned.
I brought my 13 year old to jazz at the Merc a few,weeks ago.

[scaredyclassic]

I saw a,spectator wearing a,shirt that said STARVE THE EGO…

[svelte]

Oh give me a gd break.

It’s not as dire as you all make it to be.

I’ve got two kids.

One four year degree. Got a great job in the bay area this year. Making a lot of $$ but renting.

The other a certificate, not even a two year degree. Making an equal amount of $$ in SD, able to buy a house which the other kid can’t do. Will the 4 year degree win out? No doubt in the long run. But for now, neck in neck, both working office jobs for great corporations, both hard working, both going for the gold.

Let’s not be doom-n-gloomers. Is the world as it was 50 years ago? of course not. But human nature being what it is, there will always be lazy folks and those that will do whatever it takes to be successful. Degree or not.

As the saying goes, you can’t keep a good man down.

[The-Shoveler]

LOL,

The 70’s and early 80’s were no picnic.

IMO the current grads will have much better opportunities than we did.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=The-Shoveler]LOL,

The 70’s and early 80’s were no picnic.

IMO the current grads will have much better opportunities than we did.[/quote]You’re damned straight, Shoveler! Our living expenses were much less than today but we had to work our asses off doing (often physical) jobs that today’s millenials would balk at. And there wasn’t any “telecommuting,” LOL. We punched a time clock (even in and out for “lunch”) all the way up to 1990 …. yeah, even working for the “gubment.”

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