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December 31, 2011 at 3:41 PM #735276December 31, 2011 at 4:55 PM #735281scaredyclassicParticipant
Interesting article. I can see it as true.
The reverse is also true. I’m naturally a skinny twig trying to add muscle. It is a struggle to eat a lot more protein. I just don’t want it. I drink some by whey, eat more meat, workout like crazy— but I still gain muscle slow, slower than brutish dudes who naturally pack it on.
We are meant to be a certain way, probably.
But I’m still gonna try. I enjoy it.
Weighted pullups today went nicely.
December 31, 2011 at 6:35 PM #735288NotCrankyParticipantIf a person lost one pound a week I wonder if they would gain weight? I mean if the article is true,that losing lots of weight is fairly easy, and we all have seen many fat people do it(then go back up), then losing a pound a week should be a piece of cake. Why not just lose a pound or two a week for the rest of one’s life as a means of maintaining at a reasonably healthy weight? I think that’s what I habitually do ever since I reached 212 pounds 15 years ago. I never ever weigh anything but 212 or 213 pounds.
January 2, 2012 at 11:52 AM #735320briansd1Guest[quote=walterwhite]Interesting article. I can see it as true.
The reverse is also true. I’m naturally a skinny twig trying to add muscle. It is a struggle to eat a lot more protein. I just don’t want it. I drink some by whey, eat more meat, workout like crazy— but I still gain muscle slow, slower than brutish dudes who naturally pack it on.
We are meant to be a certain way, probably.
But I’m still gonna try. I enjoy it.
Weighted pullups today went nicely.[/quote]
Enjoy being skinny… it will be an advantage in old age. It’s like being naturally young looking up to your 50s.
Plus thin people are healthier and live longer. I know from watching my dad and his siblings. Most their peers passed away from sickness while they are still going strong.
As the article pointed out, once you gain wight, it’s hard to lose it. So the key is not to gain it in the first place.
January 2, 2012 at 12:42 PM #735322briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Brian: Sorry for the cheap pun, but here’s some food for thought: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope-fat-trap.html?src=me&ref=general
[/quote]I’m surprised that people who advocate personal responsibility would give fat folks a pass. Whatever happened to abstinence?
We are all born genetically unequal, with different psychosis, strengths, weaknesses, cravings, addictions.
But unlike animals we are born with a conscience and the ability to willfully adapt to our environment.
There is a minimal amount of competency and personal responsibility that we all must live by. For example, people will absorb math, reading and other skills differently. But we must all possess a minimal knowledge of those subjects.
I don’t buy the argument of “my genes made me do it”. That’s such a cop-out and reeks of moral decay (because responsibility to one’s own body should be paramount).
I spent time over the holiday with visiting friends. He and his wife drink coffee in the morning (stimulants cause bouts of hunger). They drink sweet drinks, eat frozen yogurts (all sugar) and packaged items throughout the day. No wonder they are fat.
Regardless of genetic predisposition, only calorie input can cause weight gains.
Despite the scientific data on genetic predisposition, there is a greater wealth of data on American culture being a fat ass culture, as compared to the rest of the world. The sad part is that other countries are adopting the American model.
January 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM #735324Allan from FallbrookParticipantBrian: I’m with you, Bub. Do your “pushaways” (from the table), put on your running gear and do some roadwork.
The problem with a culture that is built on victimhood and immediate gratification is that it blames someone else for the problem and is also unable and unwilling to put in the work necessary to achieve the desired results. That’s why you have all those gimmicky workout machines (most of which tout the ability to work out in front of your TV).
Staying in shape can be tough and it demands physical and mental determination. Far easier to push those bon-bons in your face while sitting on your ass and blaming someone else for your misfortune.
The best part of my day is getting outside for an hour and walking (my knees are FUBAR, so running is out). Leave work, stress, all the bullshit behind. Put in my earbuds and go.
January 2, 2012 at 4:45 PM #735328scaredyclassicParticipantI’d always been vaguely opposed to toughness but started to embrace it in 1998. I had been such a pussy. I was soft flabby and weak. The bicycle brought me into a certain type of physical and mental toughness. Hard exertion in crazy ass conditions for long periods of time. I got so nuts I’d commute home 15 miles in truly dangerous new Mexico style lightning storms just for the fuck of it. Hills. Sand. Mud. Fuck it all. Vthat kind if attitude makes you feel more invincible. There is no way to get that on anything sold on tv. You need to suffer and struggle some.
Eventually that struggle got easy.
Now it’s weights. They are truly intimidating and scary and heavy. I get a little nervous again doing it.
Physical challenge us powerful stuff and us missing in our culture
I think that’s ehat all these warrior dash mud run competitions are about now.
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