OT: Gay Marriage

[Arraya]

Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

After thinking about this I would have to say, no. What kind of “right” is that? Does that same man have the right claim the need for segregation from anybody who could possibly have a thought that he might find unsavory. Or is it just lustful thoughts that are a violation. “I don’t like the way you could *possibly* be thinking and it’s violating my rights???”

[briansd1]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

Russell, the thing is that straight and gay soldiers already sleep and bathe together under don’t ask don’t tell.

Just like straights, I doubt that gays just declare their attraction to others unless there’s some kind of mutual reciprocation. If anything gays would be more likely to keep quiet for fear of getting beat up.

Very little will change in this respect.

[quote=Russell]On the one hand you have the judgement call on what is sensitive and what is not, from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1. [/quote]

The nice thing about living in the city center is that you meet all kinds of people. You acquire an appreciation of people for who they are and develop a live-and-let-live attitude.

[briansd1]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

Russell, the thing is that straight and gay soldiers already sleep and bathe together under don’t ask don’t tell.

Just like straights, I doubt that gays just declare their attraction to others unless there’s some kind of mutual reciprocation. If anything gays would be more likely to keep quiet for fear of getting beat up.

Very little will change in this respect.

[quote=Russell]On the one hand you have the judgement call on what is sensitive and what is not, from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1. [/quote]

The nice thing about living in the city center is that you meet all kinds of people. You acquire an appreciation of people for who they are and develop a live-and-let-live attitude.

[briansd1]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

Russell, the thing is that straight and gay soldiers already sleep and bathe together under don’t ask don’t tell.

Just like straights, I doubt that gays just declare their attraction to others unless there’s some kind of mutual reciprocation. If anything gays would be more likely to keep quiet for fear of getting beat up.

Very little will change in this respect.

[quote=Russell]On the one hand you have the judgement call on what is sensitive and what is not, from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1. [/quote]

The nice thing about living in the city center is that you meet all kinds of people. You acquire an appreciation of people for who they are and develop a live-and-let-live attitude.

[briansd1]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

Russell, the thing is that straight and gay soldiers already sleep and bathe together under don’t ask don’t tell.

Just like straights, I doubt that gays just declare their attraction to others unless there’s some kind of mutual reciprocation. If anything gays would be more likely to keep quiet for fear of getting beat up.

Very little will change in this respect.

[quote=Russell]On the one hand you have the judgement call on what is sensitive and what is not, from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1. [/quote]

The nice thing about living in the city center is that you meet all kinds of people. You acquire an appreciation of people for who they are and develop a live-and-let-live attitude.

[briansd1]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

Russell, the thing is that straight and gay soldiers already sleep and bathe together under don’t ask don’t tell.

Just like straights, I doubt that gays just declare their attraction to others unless there’s some kind of mutual reciprocation. If anything gays would be more likely to keep quiet for fear of getting beat up.

Very little will change in this respect.

[quote=Russell]On the one hand you have the judgement call on what is sensitive and what is not, from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1. [/quote]

The nice thing about living in the city center is that you meet all kinds of people. You acquire an appreciation of people for who they are and develop a live-and-let-live attitude.

[NotCranky]

Brian, I have plenty of life experience with lots of different people. Live and let live doesn’t necessarily exclude my opinions does it? Brian,It sounds like you are saying someone who entertains the views I am doesn’t interact cordially and in support of variety of individuals, the same as you do? That sounds like reverse intolerance or something like that. “You can’t possibly be as cultural value added as me, because I don’t like your opinions”… and you live in a different place than I do…

I think topic begs politicized indoctrination into something less than objectivity(whatever that would be) from more sides than one, that’s all. Case in point, I have never seen Dan, make such dismissive, weak ,one sided arguments.In any case the policy in the military should certainly not be about how it effects the sense of power and pride of the residents of “Kansas” or Hillcrest, which is how you seem to be framing it.

[NotCranky]

Brian, I have plenty of life experience with lots of different people. Live and let live doesn’t necessarily exclude my opinions does it? Brian,It sounds like you are saying someone who entertains the views I am doesn’t interact cordially and in support of variety of individuals, the same as you do? That sounds like reverse intolerance or something like that. “You can’t possibly be as cultural value added as me, because I don’t like your opinions”… and you live in a different place than I do…

I think topic begs politicized indoctrination into something less than objectivity(whatever that would be) from more sides than one, that’s all. Case in point, I have never seen Dan, make such dismissive, weak ,one sided arguments.In any case the policy in the military should certainly not be about how it effects the sense of power and pride of the residents of “Kansas” or Hillcrest, which is how you seem to be framing it.

[NotCranky]

Brian, I have plenty of life experience with lots of different people. Live and let live doesn’t necessarily exclude my opinions does it? Brian,It sounds like you are saying someone who entertains the views I am doesn’t interact cordially and in support of variety of individuals, the same as you do? That sounds like reverse intolerance or something like that. “You can’t possibly be as cultural value added as me, because I don’t like your opinions”… and you live in a different place than I do…

I think topic begs politicized indoctrination into something less than objectivity(whatever that would be) from more sides than one, that’s all. Case in point, I have never seen Dan, make such dismissive, weak ,one sided arguments.In any case the policy in the military should certainly not be about how it effects the sense of power and pride of the residents of “Kansas” or Hillcrest, which is how you seem to be framing it.

[NotCranky]

Brian, I have plenty of life experience with lots of different people. Live and let live doesn’t necessarily exclude my opinions does it? Brian,It sounds like you are saying someone who entertains the views I am doesn’t interact cordially and in support of variety of individuals, the same as you do? That sounds like reverse intolerance or something like that. “You can’t possibly be as cultural value added as me, because I don’t like your opinions”… and you live in a different place than I do…

I think topic begs politicized indoctrination into something less than objectivity(whatever that would be) from more sides than one, that’s all. Case in point, I have never seen Dan, make such dismissive, weak ,one sided arguments.In any case the policy in the military should certainly not be about how it effects the sense of power and pride of the residents of “Kansas” or Hillcrest, which is how you seem to be framing it.

[NotCranky]

Brian, I have plenty of life experience with lots of different people. Live and let live doesn’t necessarily exclude my opinions does it? Brian,It sounds like you are saying someone who entertains the views I am doesn’t interact cordially and in support of variety of individuals, the same as you do? That sounds like reverse intolerance or something like that. “You can’t possibly be as cultural value added as me, because I don’t like your opinions”… and you live in a different place than I do…

I think topic begs politicized indoctrination into something less than objectivity(whatever that would be) from more sides than one, that’s all. Case in point, I have never seen Dan, make such dismissive, weak ,one sided arguments.In any case the policy in the military should certainly not be about how it effects the sense of power and pride of the residents of “Kansas” or Hillcrest, which is how you seem to be framing it.

[briansd1]

[quote=Russell]Brian, I have plenty of life experience with lots of different people. Live and let live doesn’t necessarily exclude my opinions does it? Brian,It sounds like you are saying someone who entertains the views I am doesn’t interact cordially and in support of variety of individuals, the same as you do? That sounds like reverse intolerance or something like that. “You can’t possibly be as cultural value added as me, because I don’t like your opinions”… and you live in a different place than I do… [/quote]

I’m sorry that my response didn’t come across as I intended.

When you wrote “from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1”, I felt like you were dismissive of urbanrealtor’s opinion because he services a gay neighborhood.

I’m saying that those who live with or near gay people know better that gay equality does not, in any way, infringe upon the rights of straights, nor will equality for all result in the collapse of family values, unit cohesion and the like.

[briansd1]

[quote=Russell]Brian, I have plenty of life experience with lots of different people. Live and let live doesn’t necessarily exclude my opinions does it? Brian,It sounds like you are saying someone who entertains the views I am doesn’t interact cordially and in support of variety of individuals, the same as you do? That sounds like reverse intolerance or something like that. “You can’t possibly be as cultural value added as me, because I don’t like your opinions”… and you live in a different place than I do… [/quote]

I’m sorry that my response didn’t come across as I intended.

When you wrote “from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1”, I felt like you were dismissive of urbanrealtor’s opinion because he services a gay neighborhood.

I’m saying that those who live with or near gay people know better that gay equality does not, in any way, infringe upon the rights of straights, nor will equality for all result in the collapse of family values, unit cohesion and the like.

[briansd1]

[quote=Russell]Brian, I have plenty of life experience with lots of different people. Live and let live doesn’t necessarily exclude my opinions does it? Brian,It sounds like you are saying someone who entertains the views I am doesn’t interact cordially and in support of variety of individuals, the same as you do? That sounds like reverse intolerance or something like that. “You can’t possibly be as cultural value added as me, because I don’t like your opinions”… and you live in a different place than I do… [/quote]

I’m sorry that my response didn’t come across as I intended.

When you wrote “from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1”, I felt like you were dismissive of urbanrealtor’s opinion because he services a gay neighborhood.

I’m saying that those who live with or near gay people know better that gay equality does not, in any way, infringe upon the rights of straights, nor will equality for all result in the collapse of family values, unit cohesion and the like.

[briansd1]

[quote=Russell]Brian, I have plenty of life experience with lots of different people. Live and let live doesn’t necessarily exclude my opinions does it? Brian,It sounds like you are saying someone who entertains the views I am doesn’t interact cordially and in support of variety of individuals, the same as you do? That sounds like reverse intolerance or something like that. “You can’t possibly be as cultural value added as me, because I don’t like your opinions”… and you live in a different place than I do… [/quote]

I’m sorry that my response didn’t come across as I intended.

When you wrote “from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1”, I felt like you were dismissive of urbanrealtor’s opinion because he services a gay neighborhood.

I’m saying that those who live with or near gay people know better that gay equality does not, in any way, infringe upon the rights of straights, nor will equality for all result in the collapse of family values, unit cohesion and the like.

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