OT: Frustated hiring here

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Cricket:

I’d point out that some of those hyper-specific job postings are likely designed to meet the minimum advertising requirements for H-1B visas (so that the company can higher the “only” person that fits the bill, on an H-1B). Not passing judgment on that, but it certainly happens, and companies that specialize in H-1B compliance will help do it.

Also in that vein, it may be internal rehiring / re-shuffling requirements for various public (and some private) bureaucratic hiring policies.

FLU:

Is 100K it? Or is there equity too? Phone apps currently seem to be “the future”, but I’m not sure 100K would entice me (new jobs are risky for both employer and employee; in this economy, if it ain’t broke…). But I’ve been lurking here for a long time, and over the last couple years your side project has piqued my curiosity.

[LuckyInOC]

[quote=paramount]Good labor isn’t cheap, and cheap labor isn’t good.

I’m sure if you paid enough, one or more of those applicants from google or qualcomm would jump ship. That’s the way the employment market should work IMO.[/quote]

Good, Fast, Cheap…

You can only pick two…
And the third will suffer.

Good & Fast – it won’t be cheap
Good & Cheap – it won’t be done soon
Fast & Cheap – it won’t work well

Lucky In OC

[LuckyInOC]

[quote=paramount]Good labor isn’t cheap, and cheap labor isn’t good.

I’m sure if you paid enough, one or more of those applicants from google or qualcomm would jump ship. That’s the way the employment market should work IMO.[/quote]

Good, Fast, Cheap…

You can only pick two…
And the third will suffer.

Good & Fast – it won’t be cheap
Good & Cheap – it won’t be done soon
Fast & Cheap – it won’t work well

Lucky In OC

[LuckyInOC]

[quote=paramount]Good labor isn’t cheap, and cheap labor isn’t good.

I’m sure if you paid enough, one or more of those applicants from google or qualcomm would jump ship. That’s the way the employment market should work IMO.[/quote]

Good, Fast, Cheap…

You can only pick two…
And the third will suffer.

Good & Fast – it won’t be cheap
Good & Cheap – it won’t be done soon
Fast & Cheap – it won’t work well

Lucky In OC

[LuckyInOC]

[quote=paramount]Good labor isn’t cheap, and cheap labor isn’t good.

I’m sure if you paid enough, one or more of those applicants from google or qualcomm would jump ship. That’s the way the employment market should work IMO.[/quote]

Good, Fast, Cheap…

You can only pick two…
And the third will suffer.

Good & Fast – it won’t be cheap
Good & Cheap – it won’t be done soon
Fast & Cheap – it won’t work well

Lucky In OC

[LuckyInOC]

[quote=paramount]Good labor isn’t cheap, and cheap labor isn’t good.

I’m sure if you paid enough, one or more of those applicants from google or qualcomm would jump ship. That’s the way the employment market should work IMO.[/quote]

Good, Fast, Cheap…

You can only pick two…
And the third will suffer.

Good & Fast – it won’t be cheap
Good & Cheap – it won’t be done soon
Fast & Cheap – it won’t work well

Lucky In OC

[dbapig]

One more reason you may have a hard time finding someone here.
Any skilled programmer can start a software business on the cheap and be his own boss, thanks to iphone and google phone.

With iphone/google phone in the mix, you could theoretically start a pretty good software business without the back end logistics like in the ‘old days’. You don’t have to have office/data center which means you don’t have to have a business person/skill for getting funding/managing. You don’t really have to have marketing/sales. All (theoretically) you have to do is write the software and upload it to Apple’s App store for example. You don’t even need a garage. All you need is a PC (or Mac). Cafe/sofa/dining table now replaces a garage.

Now I suspect there are many technically talented people who are not business savvy (or simply don’t want to deal with it). These people used to have to work with a group of people to get a chance at making more than the normal salary (aka stock options). But now with a good iphone app (not with Google phone yet) you could make a few thousand or even a quarter of a million (although very very rare).

Just google iphone success story
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/09/indie-developer/
When some dude can make $250,000 in profit in 2 months by himself, it will surely motivate others to do the same.

With such stories around, you’d be hard pressed to find a iphone/google phone developer who’s willing to work for someone else. If they are motivated enough to learn programming iphone/google phone, they would be motivated enough to work for themselves, and not for someone else.

The situation will improve when the gold rush like sentiments die down though.

Flu, as of now the stars are aligned against you finding a decent google phone programmer.

imho.

[dbapig]

One more reason you may have a hard time finding someone here.
Any skilled programmer can start a software business on the cheap and be his own boss, thanks to iphone and google phone.

With iphone/google phone in the mix, you could theoretically start a pretty good software business without the back end logistics like in the ‘old days’. You don’t have to have office/data center which means you don’t have to have a business person/skill for getting funding/managing. You don’t really have to have marketing/sales. All (theoretically) you have to do is write the software and upload it to Apple’s App store for example. You don’t even need a garage. All you need is a PC (or Mac). Cafe/sofa/dining table now replaces a garage.

Now I suspect there are many technically talented people who are not business savvy (or simply don’t want to deal with it). These people used to have to work with a group of people to get a chance at making more than the normal salary (aka stock options). But now with a good iphone app (not with Google phone yet) you could make a few thousand or even a quarter of a million (although very very rare).

Just google iphone success story
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/09/indie-developer/
When some dude can make $250,000 in profit in 2 months by himself, it will surely motivate others to do the same.

With such stories around, you’d be hard pressed to find a iphone/google phone developer who’s willing to work for someone else. If they are motivated enough to learn programming iphone/google phone, they would be motivated enough to work for themselves, and not for someone else.

The situation will improve when the gold rush like sentiments die down though.

Flu, as of now the stars are aligned against you finding a decent google phone programmer.

imho.

[dbapig]

One more reason you may have a hard time finding someone here.
Any skilled programmer can start a software business on the cheap and be his own boss, thanks to iphone and google phone.

With iphone/google phone in the mix, you could theoretically start a pretty good software business without the back end logistics like in the ‘old days’. You don’t have to have office/data center which means you don’t have to have a business person/skill for getting funding/managing. You don’t really have to have marketing/sales. All (theoretically) you have to do is write the software and upload it to Apple’s App store for example. You don’t even need a garage. All you need is a PC (or Mac). Cafe/sofa/dining table now replaces a garage.

Now I suspect there are many technically talented people who are not business savvy (or simply don’t want to deal with it). These people used to have to work with a group of people to get a chance at making more than the normal salary (aka stock options). But now with a good iphone app (not with Google phone yet) you could make a few thousand or even a quarter of a million (although very very rare).

Just google iphone success story
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/09/indie-developer/
When some dude can make $250,000 in profit in 2 months by himself, it will surely motivate others to do the same.

With such stories around, you’d be hard pressed to find a iphone/google phone developer who’s willing to work for someone else. If they are motivated enough to learn programming iphone/google phone, they would be motivated enough to work for themselves, and not for someone else.

The situation will improve when the gold rush like sentiments die down though.

Flu, as of now the stars are aligned against you finding a decent google phone programmer.

imho.

[dbapig]

One more reason you may have a hard time finding someone here.
Any skilled programmer can start a software business on the cheap and be his own boss, thanks to iphone and google phone.

With iphone/google phone in the mix, you could theoretically start a pretty good software business without the back end logistics like in the ‘old days’. You don’t have to have office/data center which means you don’t have to have a business person/skill for getting funding/managing. You don’t really have to have marketing/sales. All (theoretically) you have to do is write the software and upload it to Apple’s App store for example. You don’t even need a garage. All you need is a PC (or Mac). Cafe/sofa/dining table now replaces a garage.

Now I suspect there are many technically talented people who are not business savvy (or simply don’t want to deal with it). These people used to have to work with a group of people to get a chance at making more than the normal salary (aka stock options). But now with a good iphone app (not with Google phone yet) you could make a few thousand or even a quarter of a million (although very very rare).

Just google iphone success story
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/09/indie-developer/
When some dude can make $250,000 in profit in 2 months by himself, it will surely motivate others to do the same.

With such stories around, you’d be hard pressed to find a iphone/google phone developer who’s willing to work for someone else. If they are motivated enough to learn programming iphone/google phone, they would be motivated enough to work for themselves, and not for someone else.

The situation will improve when the gold rush like sentiments die down though.

Flu, as of now the stars are aligned against you finding a decent google phone programmer.

imho.

[dbapig]

One more reason you may have a hard time finding someone here.
Any skilled programmer can start a software business on the cheap and be his own boss, thanks to iphone and google phone.

With iphone/google phone in the mix, you could theoretically start a pretty good software business without the back end logistics like in the ‘old days’. You don’t have to have office/data center which means you don’t have to have a business person/skill for getting funding/managing. You don’t really have to have marketing/sales. All (theoretically) you have to do is write the software and upload it to Apple’s App store for example. You don’t even need a garage. All you need is a PC (or Mac). Cafe/sofa/dining table now replaces a garage.

Now I suspect there are many technically talented people who are not business savvy (or simply don’t want to deal with it). These people used to have to work with a group of people to get a chance at making more than the normal salary (aka stock options). But now with a good iphone app (not with Google phone yet) you could make a few thousand or even a quarter of a million (although very very rare).

Just google iphone success story
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/09/indie-developer/
When some dude can make $250,000 in profit in 2 months by himself, it will surely motivate others to do the same.

With such stories around, you’d be hard pressed to find a iphone/google phone developer who’s willing to work for someone else. If they are motivated enough to learn programming iphone/google phone, they would be motivated enough to work for themselves, and not for someone else.

The situation will improve when the gold rush like sentiments die down though.

Flu, as of now the stars are aligned against you finding a decent google phone programmer.

imho.

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