OT: FOX News and the oil blowout

[briansd1]

waiting for bottom, I didn’t say stop extracting.

Do you really want to open up sensitive natural areas with the technology so far showcased?

How about a new oil platform off the coast of Santa Barbara? BP might like to buy the lease.

BTW, a moratorium on new drilling in sensitive areas doesn’t mean that anyone is losing. The oil will still be there for extraction in the future when prices increase and technology is better proven.

[evolusd]

Oddly, I’m with brian on this one. I’m all for other renewable sources (solar, wind, etc) that don’t carry with them the huge risk ocean floor oil drilling does.

I’m an avid surfer, so I guess the ocean is more sacred to me than most. This spill and the length of time to remedy the problem makes me sick.

[evolusd]

Oddly, I’m with brian on this one. I’m all for other renewable sources (solar, wind, etc) that don’t carry with them the huge risk ocean floor oil drilling does.

I’m an avid surfer, so I guess the ocean is more sacred to me than most. This spill and the length of time to remedy the problem makes me sick.

[evolusd]

Oddly, I’m with brian on this one. I’m all for other renewable sources (solar, wind, etc) that don’t carry with them the huge risk ocean floor oil drilling does.

I’m an avid surfer, so I guess the ocean is more sacred to me than most. This spill and the length of time to remedy the problem makes me sick.

[evolusd]

Oddly, I’m with brian on this one. I’m all for other renewable sources (solar, wind, etc) that don’t carry with them the huge risk ocean floor oil drilling does.

I’m an avid surfer, so I guess the ocean is more sacred to me than most. This spill and the length of time to remedy the problem makes me sick.

[evolusd]

Oddly, I’m with brian on this one. I’m all for other renewable sources (solar, wind, etc) that don’t carry with them the huge risk ocean floor oil drilling does.

I’m an avid surfer, so I guess the ocean is more sacred to me than most. This spill and the length of time to remedy the problem makes me sick.

[MadeInTaiwan]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=waiting for bottom
By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

Winner.[/quote]

The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.

Similary, should same scale of oil should leak out over 10 years and causing similar cummulitive damage, most would yawn.

Whether BP itself or governemnt inspection (or lack thereof) is at fault, the current spill gives the U.S public a front seat viwe of a bad (maybe not even worse case) scenario.

[MadeInTaiwan]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=waiting for bottom
By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

Winner.[/quote]

The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.

Similary, should same scale of oil should leak out over 10 years and causing similar cummulitive damage, most would yawn.

Whether BP itself or governemnt inspection (or lack thereof) is at fault, the current spill gives the U.S public a front seat viwe of a bad (maybe not even worse case) scenario.

[MadeInTaiwan]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=waiting for bottom
By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

Winner.[/quote]

The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.

Similary, should same scale of oil should leak out over 10 years and causing similar cummulitive damage, most would yawn.

Whether BP itself or governemnt inspection (or lack thereof) is at fault, the current spill gives the U.S public a front seat viwe of a bad (maybe not even worse case) scenario.

[MadeInTaiwan]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=waiting for bottom
By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

Winner.[/quote]

The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.

Similary, should same scale of oil should leak out over 10 years and causing similar cummulitive damage, most would yawn.

Whether BP itself or governemnt inspection (or lack thereof) is at fault, the current spill gives the U.S public a front seat viwe of a bad (maybe not even worse case) scenario.

[MadeInTaiwan]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=waiting for bottom
By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

Winner.[/quote]

The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.

Similary, should same scale of oil should leak out over 10 years and causing similar cummulitive damage, most would yawn.

Whether BP itself or governemnt inspection (or lack thereof) is at fault, the current spill gives the U.S public a front seat viwe of a bad (maybe not even worse case) scenario.

[Arraya]

[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1]The oil gusher kills any argument in favor of the drill-baby-drill movement. That’s why Fox is only given scant coverage to the gusher.

Supporters of drilling have argued that technology now makes it safe to drill in sensitive, untouched natural areas.

The new drilling technology is not working and untested as evidenced by the oil gusher.

Drillers cannot guarantee that disaster won’t occur. And when a disaster does occur it takes months to plug a gushing well. Obviously, the technology is not there.

It’s now up to the public to decide whether they are willing to trust drillers with their own backyards, recreational areas and livelihoods.[/quote]

By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.

[Arraya]

[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1]The oil gusher kills any argument in favor of the drill-baby-drill movement. That’s why Fox is only given scant coverage to the gusher.

Supporters of drilling have argued that technology now makes it safe to drill in sensitive, untouched natural areas.

The new drilling technology is not working and untested as evidenced by the oil gusher.

Drillers cannot guarantee that disaster won’t occur. And when a disaster does occur it takes months to plug a gushing well. Obviously, the technology is not there.

It’s now up to the public to decide whether they are willing to trust drillers with their own backyards, recreational areas and livelihoods.[/quote]

By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.

[Arraya]

[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1]The oil gusher kills any argument in favor of the drill-baby-drill movement. That’s why Fox is only given scant coverage to the gusher.

Supporters of drilling have argued that technology now makes it safe to drill in sensitive, untouched natural areas.

The new drilling technology is not working and untested as evidenced by the oil gusher.

Drillers cannot guarantee that disaster won’t occur. And when a disaster does occur it takes months to plug a gushing well. Obviously, the technology is not there.

It’s now up to the public to decide whether they are willing to trust drillers with their own backyards, recreational areas and livelihoods.[/quote]

By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.

[Arraya]

[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1]The oil gusher kills any argument in favor of the drill-baby-drill movement. That’s why Fox is only given scant coverage to the gusher.

Supporters of drilling have argued that technology now makes it safe to drill in sensitive, untouched natural areas.

The new drilling technology is not working and untested as evidenced by the oil gusher.

Drillers cannot guarantee that disaster won’t occur. And when a disaster does occur it takes months to plug a gushing well. Obviously, the technology is not there.

It’s now up to the public to decide whether they are willing to trust drillers with their own backyards, recreational areas and livelihoods.[/quote]

By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.

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