OT: FOX News and the oil blowout

[larrylujack]

[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

Indeed they do, in Norway in fact they have nationalized oil deep drilling w/out accidents as I recall. But, not to interfere with your dogmatic tea partier belief, to BP in particular, that is the problem, bro. BP does not know what they are doing, haven’t figured that one out by now??? are you ok with that, tea partier? reep what you sow…curious to see how many americans support oil on their beeches after this one, until they forget about it of course.
United states of amnesia, as Gore Vidal correctly named the US….

LL.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]

Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.

While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.

The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.

Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.[/quote]

You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]

Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.

While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.

The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.

Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.[/quote]

You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]

Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.

While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.

The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.

Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.[/quote]

You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]

Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.

While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.

The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.

Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.[/quote]

You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]

Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.

While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.

The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.

Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.[/quote]

You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=eavesdropper]
You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.[/quote]

Eavesdropper: First off, its MR. Heartless Bastard to you, Miz Dominatrix.

Second, the visual of a group of SEC staffers pulling (pun intended) a circle jerk works both on actual and ironic levels.

Kidding aside, I’d rank Uncle Sugar’s prosecutorial capabilities right up there with BP’s deep drilling prowess. I’m not advocating a hands-off approach; far from it, but I think the gubment needs to decide who they actually represent: The citizens of this great nation, or the folks buying influence. The fact remains that the regulations are in place and have been for quite some time. Enforcement of same is something of a joke and that’s we have mines in West Virginia and refineries in Washington State and rigs in the Gulf blowing up.

The Obama Administration has proven itself as inept as Bush (see Salazar, Ken), but perhaps not as fully as complicit in handing the keys to industry. We, as a people, are not well represented by our elected officials, and I don’t know what will change that. The only way to overcome that kind of money is with effective mobilization of the electorate and Americans remain apathetic and uninvolved. Unless and until we learn to agitate and advocate for ourselves and each other, this shit will keep happening.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=eavesdropper]
You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.[/quote]

Eavesdropper: First off, its MR. Heartless Bastard to you, Miz Dominatrix.

Second, the visual of a group of SEC staffers pulling (pun intended) a circle jerk works both on actual and ironic levels.

Kidding aside, I’d rank Uncle Sugar’s prosecutorial capabilities right up there with BP’s deep drilling prowess. I’m not advocating a hands-off approach; far from it, but I think the gubment needs to decide who they actually represent: The citizens of this great nation, or the folks buying influence. The fact remains that the regulations are in place and have been for quite some time. Enforcement of same is something of a joke and that’s we have mines in West Virginia and refineries in Washington State and rigs in the Gulf blowing up.

The Obama Administration has proven itself as inept as Bush (see Salazar, Ken), but perhaps not as fully as complicit in handing the keys to industry. We, as a people, are not well represented by our elected officials, and I don’t know what will change that. The only way to overcome that kind of money is with effective mobilization of the electorate and Americans remain apathetic and uninvolved. Unless and until we learn to agitate and advocate for ourselves and each other, this shit will keep happening.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=eavesdropper]
You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.[/quote]

Eavesdropper: First off, its MR. Heartless Bastard to you, Miz Dominatrix.

Second, the visual of a group of SEC staffers pulling (pun intended) a circle jerk works both on actual and ironic levels.

Kidding aside, I’d rank Uncle Sugar’s prosecutorial capabilities right up there with BP’s deep drilling prowess. I’m not advocating a hands-off approach; far from it, but I think the gubment needs to decide who they actually represent: The citizens of this great nation, or the folks buying influence. The fact remains that the regulations are in place and have been for quite some time. Enforcement of same is something of a joke and that’s we have mines in West Virginia and refineries in Washington State and rigs in the Gulf blowing up.

The Obama Administration has proven itself as inept as Bush (see Salazar, Ken), but perhaps not as fully as complicit in handing the keys to industry. We, as a people, are not well represented by our elected officials, and I don’t know what will change that. The only way to overcome that kind of money is with effective mobilization of the electorate and Americans remain apathetic and uninvolved. Unless and until we learn to agitate and advocate for ourselves and each other, this shit will keep happening.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=eavesdropper]
You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.[/quote]

Eavesdropper: First off, its MR. Heartless Bastard to you, Miz Dominatrix.

Second, the visual of a group of SEC staffers pulling (pun intended) a circle jerk works both on actual and ironic levels.

Kidding aside, I’d rank Uncle Sugar’s prosecutorial capabilities right up there with BP’s deep drilling prowess. I’m not advocating a hands-off approach; far from it, but I think the gubment needs to decide who they actually represent: The citizens of this great nation, or the folks buying influence. The fact remains that the regulations are in place and have been for quite some time. Enforcement of same is something of a joke and that’s we have mines in West Virginia and refineries in Washington State and rigs in the Gulf blowing up.

The Obama Administration has proven itself as inept as Bush (see Salazar, Ken), but perhaps not as fully as complicit in handing the keys to industry. We, as a people, are not well represented by our elected officials, and I don’t know what will change that. The only way to overcome that kind of money is with effective mobilization of the electorate and Americans remain apathetic and uninvolved. Unless and until we learn to agitate and advocate for ourselves and each other, this shit will keep happening.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=eavesdropper]
You know, Allan, everyone can’t be an overachiever like you. For god’s sake, man, the staff at the SEC have their hands full (pardon the expression) surfing for porn. And you want them to successfully prosecute Bernie Madoff, too??

You’re a heartless bastard.[/quote]

Eavesdropper: First off, its MR. Heartless Bastard to you, Miz Dominatrix.

Second, the visual of a group of SEC staffers pulling (pun intended) a circle jerk works both on actual and ironic levels.

Kidding aside, I’d rank Uncle Sugar’s prosecutorial capabilities right up there with BP’s deep drilling prowess. I’m not advocating a hands-off approach; far from it, but I think the gubment needs to decide who they actually represent: The citizens of this great nation, or the folks buying influence. The fact remains that the regulations are in place and have been for quite some time. Enforcement of same is something of a joke and that’s we have mines in West Virginia and refineries in Washington State and rigs in the Gulf blowing up.

The Obama Administration has proven itself as inept as Bush (see Salazar, Ken), but perhaps not as fully as complicit in handing the keys to industry. We, as a people, are not well represented by our elected officials, and I don’t know what will change that. The only way to overcome that kind of money is with effective mobilization of the electorate and Americans remain apathetic and uninvolved. Unless and until we learn to agitate and advocate for ourselves and each other, this shit will keep happening.

[Coronita]

Slightly back on topic, you guys see this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5SxX2EntEo&feature=player_embedded

Got hay? Lot’s and lot’s of it???

[Coronita]

Slightly back on topic, you guys see this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5SxX2EntEo&feature=player_embedded

Got hay? Lot’s and lot’s of it???

[Coronita]

Slightly back on topic, you guys see this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5SxX2EntEo&feature=player_embedded

Got hay? Lot’s and lot’s of it???

[Coronita]

Slightly back on topic, you guys see this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5SxX2EntEo&feature=player_embedded

Got hay? Lot’s and lot’s of it???

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