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May 30, 2010 at 3:33 PM #558381May 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM #557469scaredyclassicParticipant
Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position
May 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM #557570scaredyclassicParticipantConviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position
May 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM #558056scaredyclassicParticipantConviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position
May 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM #558155scaredyclassicParticipantConviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position
May 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM #558436scaredyclassicParticipantConviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position
May 30, 2010 at 6:59 PM #557489Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]
Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.
While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.
The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.
Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.
May 30, 2010 at 6:59 PM #557590Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]
Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.
While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.
The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.
Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.
May 30, 2010 at 6:59 PM #558076Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]
Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.
While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.
The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.
Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.
May 30, 2010 at 6:59 PM #558175Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]
Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.
While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.
The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.
Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.
May 30, 2010 at 6:59 PM #558456Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=scaredycat]Conviction may be difficult but just the risk of swift prosecution may be enough. A small chance if loss would be unacceptable to mgt in that position[/quote]
Scaredy: Being an attorney (and I don’t know your area of practice), I’d be curious as to your take on the badly bungled SEC prosecution of Madoff, as well as their ineptitude in suing Goldman Sachs.
While I understand that any prosecutions relative to the Gulf spill would be handled by the Justice Department and not the SEC, I think that a comparison is valid, in that it would be the US Government asserting their power and alleging criminal acts. While the SEC/Goldman donnybrook is civil, not criminal, the SEC/Madoff prosecution includes literally dozens of criminal charges.
The point I’m making is that the US Government has proven itself some inept in the past in this regard, just look at the many failed attempts to put John Gotti away.
Not saying that they shouldn’t be doing this, but it is worth discussing a better approach if/when they do.
May 30, 2010 at 10:04 PM #557587larrylujackParticipant[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1
Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]
Indeed they do, in Norway in fact they have nationalized oil deep drilling w/out accidents as I recall. But, not to interfere with your dogmatic tea partier belief, to BP in particular, that is the problem, bro. BP does not know what they are doing, haven’t figured that one out by now??? are you ok with that, tea partier? reep what you sow…curious to see how many americans support oil on their beeches after this one, until they forget about it of course.
United states of amnesia, as Gore Vidal correctly named the US….LL.
May 30, 2010 at 10:04 PM #557686larrylujackParticipant[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1
Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]
Indeed they do, in Norway in fact they have nationalized oil deep drilling w/out accidents as I recall. But, not to interfere with your dogmatic tea partier belief, to BP in particular, that is the problem, bro. BP does not know what they are doing, haven’t figured that one out by now??? are you ok with that, tea partier? reep what you sow…curious to see how many americans support oil on their beeches after this one, until they forget about it of course.
United states of amnesia, as Gore Vidal correctly named the US….LL.
May 30, 2010 at 10:04 PM #558173larrylujackParticipant[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1
Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]
Indeed they do, in Norway in fact they have nationalized oil deep drilling w/out accidents as I recall. But, not to interfere with your dogmatic tea partier belief, to BP in particular, that is the problem, bro. BP does not know what they are doing, haven’t figured that one out by now??? are you ok with that, tea partier? reep what you sow…curious to see how many americans support oil on their beeches after this one, until they forget about it of course.
United states of amnesia, as Gore Vidal correctly named the US….LL.
May 30, 2010 at 10:04 PM #558272larrylujackParticipant[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1
Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]
Indeed they do, in Norway in fact they have nationalized oil deep drilling w/out accidents as I recall. But, not to interfere with your dogmatic tea partier belief, to BP in particular, that is the problem, bro. BP does not know what they are doing, haven’t figured that one out by now??? are you ok with that, tea partier? reep what you sow…curious to see how many americans support oil on their beeches after this one, until they forget about it of course.
United states of amnesia, as Gore Vidal correctly named the US….LL.
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