OT: Ford Dealer Recommendation

[XBoxBoy]

FWIW, I bought my pickup from Mossy Ford about five years ago and had a very good experience. They post the prices on the window with all the rebates and discounts. There was no negotiation on price, it was a take it or leave it. It was a 28k list price, end of model year (October) and the price shown was just over 20k. After agreeing to that price, they tried to sell me an extended warranty, which I declined. I was going to pay cash, but they offered me another 2k rebate if I would take out a loan and not pay it off for 4 months. In the end I got the truck for just over 18k, plus tax. Then paid about 250 in interest during those four months, and paid off the loan after that, so that was a pretty good deal.

I suppose if you are a really good negotiator, you could get a better deal at another dealer, but from my shopping around, I doubt I would have gotten 8-10k off from another dealer, so the set price model is way better for me. Not sure if they are still doing that or not though. It was over five years ago now.

XboxBoy

[briansd1]

[quote=Raybyrnes]
Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

That’s a lousy way of doing business. Look at manufacturers setting drug prices.

That would penalize everyone as all the costs would be built into the prices of cars.

It’s good for competition to let independent dealers set their own prices. The lousy negotiators should pay more. What’s wrong with that?

BTW, in the scheme of things, overpaying for a car is negligible when compared to overpaying for a house which people do all the time.

If you don’t want to haggle, money can fix that easily.

[briansd1]

[quote=Raybyrnes]
Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

That’s a lousy way of doing business. Look at manufacturers setting drug prices.

That would penalize everyone as all the costs would be built into the prices of cars.

It’s good for competition to let independent dealers set their own prices. The lousy negotiators should pay more. What’s wrong with that?

BTW, in the scheme of things, overpaying for a car is negligible when compared to overpaying for a house which people do all the time.

If you don’t want to haggle, money can fix that easily.

[briansd1]

[quote=Raybyrnes]
Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

That’s a lousy way of doing business. Look at manufacturers setting drug prices.

That would penalize everyone as all the costs would be built into the prices of cars.

It’s good for competition to let independent dealers set their own prices. The lousy negotiators should pay more. What’s wrong with that?

BTW, in the scheme of things, overpaying for a car is negligible when compared to overpaying for a house which people do all the time.

If you don’t want to haggle, money can fix that easily.

[briansd1]

[quote=Raybyrnes]
Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

That’s a lousy way of doing business. Look at manufacturers setting drug prices.

That would penalize everyone as all the costs would be built into the prices of cars.

It’s good for competition to let independent dealers set their own prices. The lousy negotiators should pay more. What’s wrong with that?

BTW, in the scheme of things, overpaying for a car is negligible when compared to overpaying for a house which people do all the time.

If you don’t want to haggle, money can fix that easily.

[briansd1]

[quote=Raybyrnes]
Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

That’s a lousy way of doing business. Look at manufacturers setting drug prices.

That would penalize everyone as all the costs would be built into the prices of cars.

It’s good for competition to let independent dealers set their own prices. The lousy negotiators should pay more. What’s wrong with that?

BTW, in the scheme of things, overpaying for a car is negligible when compared to overpaying for a house which people do all the time.

If you don’t want to haggle, money can fix that easily.

[Raybyrnes]

Briansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.

Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.

By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.

[Raybyrnes]

Briansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.

Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.

By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.

[Raybyrnes]

Briansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.

Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.

By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.

[Raybyrnes]

Briansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.

Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.

By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.

[Raybyrnes]

Briansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.

Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.

By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.

[briansd1]

[quote=Raybyrnes]Briansd1. We can agree to disagree. [/quote]

Yes, we can.

But I don’t think that you have thought this trough.

Why should a dealer who spends more on his building and services price his cars the same? Should a dealer who has a swanky marble showroom or a convenient high-cost location not be able to charge more, like a hotel or a restaurant would?

And why should a dealer in a high-cost city like San Diego price his cars the same as one in the mid-west? The San Diego dealer has high acquisition, maintenance and labor costs.

Look at electronics; they are sold at all kinds of prices.

Some people may feel that it’s unpleasant to haggle, but that not a reason to regulate car prices.

And if you don’t like to haggle, simple “over-pay” by $500 to a few thousands. That’s the price of convenience.

[briansd1]

[quote=Raybyrnes]Briansd1. We can agree to disagree. [/quote]

Yes, we can.

But I don’t think that you have thought this trough.

Why should a dealer who spends more on his building and services price his cars the same? Should a dealer who has a swanky marble showroom or a convenient high-cost location not be able to charge more, like a hotel or a restaurant would?

And why should a dealer in a high-cost city like San Diego price his cars the same as one in the mid-west? The San Diego dealer has high acquisition, maintenance and labor costs.

Look at electronics; they are sold at all kinds of prices.

Some people may feel that it’s unpleasant to haggle, but that not a reason to regulate car prices.

And if you don’t like to haggle, simple “over-pay” by $500 to a few thousands. That’s the price of convenience.

[briansd1]

[quote=Raybyrnes]Briansd1. We can agree to disagree. [/quote]

Yes, we can.

But I don’t think that you have thought this trough.

Why should a dealer who spends more on his building and services price his cars the same? Should a dealer who has a swanky marble showroom or a convenient high-cost location not be able to charge more, like a hotel or a restaurant would?

And why should a dealer in a high-cost city like San Diego price his cars the same as one in the mid-west? The San Diego dealer has high acquisition, maintenance and labor costs.

Look at electronics; they are sold at all kinds of prices.

Some people may feel that it’s unpleasant to haggle, but that not a reason to regulate car prices.

And if you don’t like to haggle, simple “over-pay” by $500 to a few thousands. That’s the price of convenience.

[briansd1]

[quote=Raybyrnes]Briansd1. We can agree to disagree. [/quote]

Yes, we can.

But I don’t think that you have thought this trough.

Why should a dealer who spends more on his building and services price his cars the same? Should a dealer who has a swanky marble showroom or a convenient high-cost location not be able to charge more, like a hotel or a restaurant would?

And why should a dealer in a high-cost city like San Diego price his cars the same as one in the mid-west? The San Diego dealer has high acquisition, maintenance and labor costs.

Look at electronics; they are sold at all kinds of prices.

Some people may feel that it’s unpleasant to haggle, but that not a reason to regulate car prices.

And if you don’t like to haggle, simple “over-pay” by $500 to a few thousands. That’s the price of convenience.

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