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October 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM #468125October 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM #467315
Arraya
ParticipantWhat are the most serious real risks to the individual? It seems to me that currently in the U.S., the worst immediate threats to the most individuals is injury from risks that we take voluntarily or semi-voluntarily, random crime, personal illness and/or poverty each possibly largely brought on by personal choices.
Jeez, Russ, you’re starting to sound like a conservative.
Of course, there is always getting trampled in federal aid line.
http://www.freep.com/article/20091008/NEWS05/910080464/1318/Cobo-a-scene-of-desperation
The economic tsunami washing over metro Detroit swept its casualties to the doors of Cobo Center on Wednesday in the form of 35,000 people so desperate for help with mortgage and utility bills that threats were made, fights broke out and people were nearly trampled.
Some were treated by emergency medical workers on site.
It was one of the most dramatic signs to date of how deeply joblessness and the home foreclosure crisis have pushed people from the lower and middle ends of the economic scale to seek help wherever they can.
City officials said a total of about 65,000 people over the past few days have gotten applications — due next Wednesday — for a share of $15.2 million in federal stimulus money to help people avoid foreclosure or quickly rebound from homelessness.
Ultimately, as few as 3,500 people may receive the help.
Unemployment is the bubbling cauldron of problems which stems from other structural problems, magnified by ideological and cultural issues.
Saying that unemployment stems from personal choices will only work as long as unemployment stays under a certain level and the aggregate conscience of the unemployed internalizes their unemployment as their fault.
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.
October 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM #467495ParticipantWhat are the most serious real risks to the individual? It seems to me that currently in the U.S., the worst immediate threats to the most individuals is injury from risks that we take voluntarily or semi-voluntarily, random crime, personal illness and/or poverty each possibly largely brought on by personal choices.
Jeez, Russ, you’re starting to sound like a conservative.
Of course, there is always getting trampled in federal aid line.
http://www.freep.com/article/20091008/NEWS05/910080464/1318/Cobo-a-scene-of-desperation
The economic tsunami washing over metro Detroit swept its casualties to the doors of Cobo Center on Wednesday in the form of 35,000 people so desperate for help with mortgage and utility bills that threats were made, fights broke out and people were nearly trampled.
Some were treated by emergency medical workers on site.
It was one of the most dramatic signs to date of how deeply joblessness and the home foreclosure crisis have pushed people from the lower and middle ends of the economic scale to seek help wherever they can.
City officials said a total of about 65,000 people over the past few days have gotten applications — due next Wednesday — for a share of $15.2 million in federal stimulus money to help people avoid foreclosure or quickly rebound from homelessness.
Ultimately, as few as 3,500 people may receive the help.
Unemployment is the bubbling cauldron of problems which stems from other structural problems, magnified by ideological and cultural issues.
Saying that unemployment stems from personal choices will only work as long as unemployment stays under a certain level and the aggregate conscience of the unemployed internalizes their unemployment as their fault.
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.
October 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM #467847ParticipantWhat are the most serious real risks to the individual? It seems to me that currently in the U.S., the worst immediate threats to the most individuals is injury from risks that we take voluntarily or semi-voluntarily, random crime, personal illness and/or poverty each possibly largely brought on by personal choices.
Jeez, Russ, you’re starting to sound like a conservative.
Of course, there is always getting trampled in federal aid line.
http://www.freep.com/article/20091008/NEWS05/910080464/1318/Cobo-a-scene-of-desperation
The economic tsunami washing over metro Detroit swept its casualties to the doors of Cobo Center on Wednesday in the form of 35,000 people so desperate for help with mortgage and utility bills that threats were made, fights broke out and people were nearly trampled.
Some were treated by emergency medical workers on site.
It was one of the most dramatic signs to date of how deeply joblessness and the home foreclosure crisis have pushed people from the lower and middle ends of the economic scale to seek help wherever they can.
City officials said a total of about 65,000 people over the past few days have gotten applications — due next Wednesday — for a share of $15.2 million in federal stimulus money to help people avoid foreclosure or quickly rebound from homelessness.
Ultimately, as few as 3,500 people may receive the help.
Unemployment is the bubbling cauldron of problems which stems from other structural problems, magnified by ideological and cultural issues.
Saying that unemployment stems from personal choices will only work as long as unemployment stays under a certain level and the aggregate conscience of the unemployed internalizes their unemployment as their fault.
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.
October 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM #467919ParticipantWhat are the most serious real risks to the individual? It seems to me that currently in the U.S., the worst immediate threats to the most individuals is injury from risks that we take voluntarily or semi-voluntarily, random crime, personal illness and/or poverty each possibly largely brought on by personal choices.
Jeez, Russ, you’re starting to sound like a conservative.
Of course, there is always getting trampled in federal aid line.
http://www.freep.com/article/20091008/NEWS05/910080464/1318/Cobo-a-scene-of-desperation
The economic tsunami washing over metro Detroit swept its casualties to the doors of Cobo Center on Wednesday in the form of 35,000 people so desperate for help with mortgage and utility bills that threats were made, fights broke out and people were nearly trampled.
Some were treated by emergency medical workers on site.
It was one of the most dramatic signs to date of how deeply joblessness and the home foreclosure crisis have pushed people from the lower and middle ends of the economic scale to seek help wherever they can.
City officials said a total of about 65,000 people over the past few days have gotten applications — due next Wednesday — for a share of $15.2 million in federal stimulus money to help people avoid foreclosure or quickly rebound from homelessness.
Ultimately, as few as 3,500 people may receive the help.
Unemployment is the bubbling cauldron of problems which stems from other structural problems, magnified by ideological and cultural issues.
Saying that unemployment stems from personal choices will only work as long as unemployment stays under a certain level and the aggregate conscience of the unemployed internalizes their unemployment as their fault.
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.
October 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM #468130ParticipantWhat are the most serious real risks to the individual? It seems to me that currently in the U.S., the worst immediate threats to the most individuals is injury from risks that we take voluntarily or semi-voluntarily, random crime, personal illness and/or poverty each possibly largely brought on by personal choices.
Jeez, Russ, you’re starting to sound like a conservative.
Of course, there is always getting trampled in federal aid line.
http://www.freep.com/article/20091008/NEWS05/910080464/1318/Cobo-a-scene-of-desperation
The economic tsunami washing over metro Detroit swept its casualties to the doors of Cobo Center on Wednesday in the form of 35,000 people so desperate for help with mortgage and utility bills that threats were made, fights broke out and people were nearly trampled.
Some were treated by emergency medical workers on site.
It was one of the most dramatic signs to date of how deeply joblessness and the home foreclosure crisis have pushed people from the lower and middle ends of the economic scale to seek help wherever they can.
City officials said a total of about 65,000 people over the past few days have gotten applications — due next Wednesday — for a share of $15.2 million in federal stimulus money to help people avoid foreclosure or quickly rebound from homelessness.
Ultimately, as few as 3,500 people may receive the help.
Unemployment is the bubbling cauldron of problems which stems from other structural problems, magnified by ideological and cultural issues.
Saying that unemployment stems from personal choices will only work as long as unemployment stays under a certain level and the aggregate conscience of the unemployed internalizes their unemployment as their fault.
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.
October 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM #467330TheBreeze
Participant[quote=Arraya]
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.[/quote]
Can’t wait. I suggest we hand out AK-47s to the unemployed and direct them to the Goldman Sachs board room. Let’s put their anger to good use.
October 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM #467510Participant[quote=Arraya]
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.[/quote]
Can’t wait. I suggest we hand out AK-47s to the unemployed and direct them to the Goldman Sachs board room. Let’s put their anger to good use.
October 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM #467862Participant[quote=Arraya]
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.[/quote]
Can’t wait. I suggest we hand out AK-47s to the unemployed and direct them to the Goldman Sachs board room. Let’s put their anger to good use.
October 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM #467934Participant[quote=Arraya]
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.[/quote]
Can’t wait. I suggest we hand out AK-47s to the unemployed and direct them to the Goldman Sachs board room. Let’s put their anger to good use.
October 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM #468145Participant[quote=Arraya]
At some point, as it rises, the unemployed with decide it is somebody else’s fault and that is when problems start.[/quote]
Can’t wait. I suggest we hand out AK-47s to the unemployed and direct them to the Goldman Sachs board room. Let’s put their anger to good use.
October 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM #467334NotCranky
ParticipantNot going conservative Arraya, just looking at how risk impacts the average Joe(me),regardless of how some of those risks get embedded into our society by those stinking conservatives and liberals. Realizing risk is a fact of life, what really matters is; do I see it clearly and what can and can’t I do about it relative to immediate importance to me …or, in the case of “Three Weeks to Chaos” type false alarms, lack of.
Events like you mentioned don’t surprise me, however otherwise disturbing they are. They don’t qualify as a desperate spiral to doom regardless if they are the result of eons of unjust schemes, from conservatives.They always happen in different flavors.They could, of course, spiral, but I don’t see revolution on a grand scale coming. I think (more)international warfare will come before that. If it doesn’t this is just another hiccup.
October 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM #467516ParticipantNot going conservative Arraya, just looking at how risk impacts the average Joe(me),regardless of how some of those risks get embedded into our society by those stinking conservatives and liberals. Realizing risk is a fact of life, what really matters is; do I see it clearly and what can and can’t I do about it relative to immediate importance to me …or, in the case of “Three Weeks to Chaos” type false alarms, lack of.
Events like you mentioned don’t surprise me, however otherwise disturbing they are. They don’t qualify as a desperate spiral to doom regardless if they are the result of eons of unjust schemes, from conservatives.They always happen in different flavors.They could, of course, spiral, but I don’t see revolution on a grand scale coming. I think (more)international warfare will come before that. If it doesn’t this is just another hiccup.
October 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM #467867ParticipantNot going conservative Arraya, just looking at how risk impacts the average Joe(me),regardless of how some of those risks get embedded into our society by those stinking conservatives and liberals. Realizing risk is a fact of life, what really matters is; do I see it clearly and what can and can’t I do about it relative to immediate importance to me …or, in the case of “Three Weeks to Chaos” type false alarms, lack of.
Events like you mentioned don’t surprise me, however otherwise disturbing they are. They don’t qualify as a desperate spiral to doom regardless if they are the result of eons of unjust schemes, from conservatives.They always happen in different flavors.They could, of course, spiral, but I don’t see revolution on a grand scale coming. I think (more)international warfare will come before that. If it doesn’t this is just another hiccup.
October 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM #467939ParticipantNot going conservative Arraya, just looking at how risk impacts the average Joe(me),regardless of how some of those risks get embedded into our society by those stinking conservatives and liberals. Realizing risk is a fact of life, what really matters is; do I see it clearly and what can and can’t I do about it relative to immediate importance to me …or, in the case of “Three Weeks to Chaos” type false alarms, lack of.
Events like you mentioned don’t surprise me, however otherwise disturbing they are. They don’t qualify as a desperate spiral to doom regardless if they are the result of eons of unjust schemes, from conservatives.They always happen in different flavors.They could, of course, spiral, but I don’t see revolution on a grand scale coming. I think (more)international warfare will come before that. If it doesn’t this is just another hiccup.
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