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February 22, 2009 at 3:32 PM #352765February 22, 2009 at 5:31 PM #352233drunkleParticipant
ignore the steel vs alu vs carbon nonsense. steel rusts, is hard to find quality steel frames and will be more expensive at this point (for new, used quality steel can still be found if you know what you’re doing. i’m assuming you dont.). aluminum fatigues but for your first bike ridden on easy terrain will last longer than you’ll keep it. alu is the standard these days so is cheap, built strong to compensate for fatigue and is still light. hell, you want longevity, get a quality titanium frame. no rust, bomb proof, tastes great, less filling.
February 22, 2009 at 5:31 PM #352547drunkleParticipantignore the steel vs alu vs carbon nonsense. steel rusts, is hard to find quality steel frames and will be more expensive at this point (for new, used quality steel can still be found if you know what you’re doing. i’m assuming you dont.). aluminum fatigues but for your first bike ridden on easy terrain will last longer than you’ll keep it. alu is the standard these days so is cheap, built strong to compensate for fatigue and is still light. hell, you want longevity, get a quality titanium frame. no rust, bomb proof, tastes great, less filling.
February 22, 2009 at 5:31 PM #352676drunkleParticipantignore the steel vs alu vs carbon nonsense. steel rusts, is hard to find quality steel frames and will be more expensive at this point (for new, used quality steel can still be found if you know what you’re doing. i’m assuming you dont.). aluminum fatigues but for your first bike ridden on easy terrain will last longer than you’ll keep it. alu is the standard these days so is cheap, built strong to compensate for fatigue and is still light. hell, you want longevity, get a quality titanium frame. no rust, bomb proof, tastes great, less filling.
February 22, 2009 at 5:31 PM #352708drunkleParticipantignore the steel vs alu vs carbon nonsense. steel rusts, is hard to find quality steel frames and will be more expensive at this point (for new, used quality steel can still be found if you know what you’re doing. i’m assuming you dont.). aluminum fatigues but for your first bike ridden on easy terrain will last longer than you’ll keep it. alu is the standard these days so is cheap, built strong to compensate for fatigue and is still light. hell, you want longevity, get a quality titanium frame. no rust, bomb proof, tastes great, less filling.
February 22, 2009 at 5:31 PM #352809drunkleParticipantignore the steel vs alu vs carbon nonsense. steel rusts, is hard to find quality steel frames and will be more expensive at this point (for new, used quality steel can still be found if you know what you’re doing. i’m assuming you dont.). aluminum fatigues but for your first bike ridden on easy terrain will last longer than you’ll keep it. alu is the standard these days so is cheap, built strong to compensate for fatigue and is still light. hell, you want longevity, get a quality titanium frame. no rust, bomb proof, tastes great, less filling.
February 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM #352239drunkleParticipanti have a bike built with an electric kit bought online for $250. $80 for the bike (used 90’s vintage trek true temper steel), 250 for the kit… too bad it came incorrectly wired and subsequently fried the moment i connected the battery. i got my money back with a cc charge dispute. i still haven’t gotten around to testing the battery and motor controller for functionality… gas prices came down and the total weight is a lot. a bit inconvenient for climbing texas hill. or stairs.
February 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM #352552drunkleParticipanti have a bike built with an electric kit bought online for $250. $80 for the bike (used 90’s vintage trek true temper steel), 250 for the kit… too bad it came incorrectly wired and subsequently fried the moment i connected the battery. i got my money back with a cc charge dispute. i still haven’t gotten around to testing the battery and motor controller for functionality… gas prices came down and the total weight is a lot. a bit inconvenient for climbing texas hill. or stairs.
February 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM #352681drunkleParticipanti have a bike built with an electric kit bought online for $250. $80 for the bike (used 90’s vintage trek true temper steel), 250 for the kit… too bad it came incorrectly wired and subsequently fried the moment i connected the battery. i got my money back with a cc charge dispute. i still haven’t gotten around to testing the battery and motor controller for functionality… gas prices came down and the total weight is a lot. a bit inconvenient for climbing texas hill. or stairs.
February 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM #352713drunkleParticipanti have a bike built with an electric kit bought online for $250. $80 for the bike (used 90’s vintage trek true temper steel), 250 for the kit… too bad it came incorrectly wired and subsequently fried the moment i connected the battery. i got my money back with a cc charge dispute. i still haven’t gotten around to testing the battery and motor controller for functionality… gas prices came down and the total weight is a lot. a bit inconvenient for climbing texas hill. or stairs.
February 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM #352814drunkleParticipanti have a bike built with an electric kit bought online for $250. $80 for the bike (used 90’s vintage trek true temper steel), 250 for the kit… too bad it came incorrectly wired and subsequently fried the moment i connected the battery. i got my money back with a cc charge dispute. i still haven’t gotten around to testing the battery and motor controller for functionality… gas prices came down and the total weight is a lot. a bit inconvenient for climbing texas hill. or stairs.
February 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM #352254EugeneParticipant[quote]put lance armstrong on a rusty chained garage sale special and he will beat everyone except maybe the worlds most elite riders regardless of how expensive a bike you put the remander of the athletic world, even the really strong dudes you may see on the hills of san diego — for the title of armstrong’s book is, after all, ‘ITS NOT ABOUT THE BIKE”. but he’s a freak, he’s not like you and me, and it’s not about hard work, some peoplea re just physiologically different…[/quote]
it’s not JUST about the bike.
However, if you put Lance on a garage-sale 40 lb hybrid with a rusty chain and MTB tires and make him compete against a random serious San Diego cyclist on a well-tuned 18 lb $600 road bike, I’d bet against Lance.
If you throw in some serious hills and put Lance on a single-speed bike, or even a bike with a messed-up derailleur, he’ll be beat up so bad it won’t even be funny.
February 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM #352567EugeneParticipant[quote]put lance armstrong on a rusty chained garage sale special and he will beat everyone except maybe the worlds most elite riders regardless of how expensive a bike you put the remander of the athletic world, even the really strong dudes you may see on the hills of san diego — for the title of armstrong’s book is, after all, ‘ITS NOT ABOUT THE BIKE”. but he’s a freak, he’s not like you and me, and it’s not about hard work, some peoplea re just physiologically different…[/quote]
it’s not JUST about the bike.
However, if you put Lance on a garage-sale 40 lb hybrid with a rusty chain and MTB tires and make him compete against a random serious San Diego cyclist on a well-tuned 18 lb $600 road bike, I’d bet against Lance.
If you throw in some serious hills and put Lance on a single-speed bike, or even a bike with a messed-up derailleur, he’ll be beat up so bad it won’t even be funny.
February 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM #352697EugeneParticipant[quote]put lance armstrong on a rusty chained garage sale special and he will beat everyone except maybe the worlds most elite riders regardless of how expensive a bike you put the remander of the athletic world, even the really strong dudes you may see on the hills of san diego — for the title of armstrong’s book is, after all, ‘ITS NOT ABOUT THE BIKE”. but he’s a freak, he’s not like you and me, and it’s not about hard work, some peoplea re just physiologically different…[/quote]
it’s not JUST about the bike.
However, if you put Lance on a garage-sale 40 lb hybrid with a rusty chain and MTB tires and make him compete against a random serious San Diego cyclist on a well-tuned 18 lb $600 road bike, I’d bet against Lance.
If you throw in some serious hills and put Lance on a single-speed bike, or even a bike with a messed-up derailleur, he’ll be beat up so bad it won’t even be funny.
February 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM #352728EugeneParticipant[quote]put lance armstrong on a rusty chained garage sale special and he will beat everyone except maybe the worlds most elite riders regardless of how expensive a bike you put the remander of the athletic world, even the really strong dudes you may see on the hills of san diego — for the title of armstrong’s book is, after all, ‘ITS NOT ABOUT THE BIKE”. but he’s a freak, he’s not like you and me, and it’s not about hard work, some peoplea re just physiologically different…[/quote]
it’s not JUST about the bike.
However, if you put Lance on a garage-sale 40 lb hybrid with a rusty chain and MTB tires and make him compete against a random serious San Diego cyclist on a well-tuned 18 lb $600 road bike, I’d bet against Lance.
If you throw in some serious hills and put Lance on a single-speed bike, or even a bike with a messed-up derailleur, he’ll be beat up so bad it won’t even be funny.
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