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October 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM #766884October 14, 2013 at 10:49 AM #766885bearishgurlParticipant
[quote=The-Shoveler]From my experience, the married Office Cube workers eat mostly home prepared food and are not really too fat for the most part (The single ones not so much).
I think Construction workers and those who are not working in offices etcβ¦ actually end up getting fatter from FF.[/quote]Construction workers are about the only folk who can get away with a FF diet and still maintain their weight because they get a boatload of exercise … a lot of it directly in the heat. That is, until their cholesterol levels catch up with them :=0
October 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM #766887bearishgurlParticipant[quote=spdrun]Yet when I worked for a company at an office complex in suburban NJ after college, the closest restaurant was Wendy’s. There were others a few traffic lights away on the highway, but people typically grabbed lunch from the closest place.[/quote]
Wendys in the worst diet for your health … especially their shakes which have more than a full day’s calorie allotment (for a very active person).
October 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM #766888spdrunParticipantI think they offered some salads as well, but most people would come back with one of the numbered burger ‘n fries combos and a soda. (Can’t say that I was totally innocent of this either.)
It was really a shame since there were a few good/cheap vegetarian Indian places down the road, but the crowd was sufficiently boring as to be grossed out by the prospect of Indian food.
October 14, 2013 at 11:02 AM #766889bearishgurlParticipantMy kid has a reading assignment this semester in English and will be tested on it after multiple discussions take place in the classroom:
If the books are turned into the teacher (parents paid for them) by the end of the semester, each student turning one in gets extra credit π
Ask yourselves why this book is now a “reading assignment” for HS seniors in some public schools …
October 14, 2013 at 11:05 AM #766890bearishgurlParticipant[quote=spdrun]I think they offered some salads as well, but most people would come back with one of the numbered burger ‘n fries combos and a soda. (Can’t say that I was totally innocent of this either.)
It was really a shame since there were a few good/cheap vegetarian Indian places down the road, but the crowd was sufficiently boring as to be grossed out by the prospect of Indian food.[/quote]
I’ve tried a couple of FF salads from “Jack” which were ordered for me by others.
They are good but when you count the calories for the salad plus the dressing they give you to put on it, it easily exceeds 1200 calories if you eat the whole thing (it doesn’t easily keep for later).
October 14, 2013 at 11:06 AM #766891spdrunParticipantWait, so students get credit for giving the teacher something which their parents PAID for?(!) Wouldn’t that result in wealthier students getting higher grades — poorer students might borrow the book or want to re-sell it after they’re done. Sounds pretty discriminatory and bizarre.
October 14, 2013 at 11:15 AM #766892no_such_realityParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Ask yourselves why this book is now a “reading assignment” for HS seniors in some public schools …[/quote]For the same politically correct reasons that Deasy is framing the discussion around iPads in LAUSD as being a civil rights issue that ‘these kids’ deserve to have iPads like the rich kids… π
FF is just a symptom. The primary driver is bad habits gain in an extended adolescence and delayed marriage, which is then further complicated by a sedentary lifestyle which is further propagated by C&C.
As for ‘health clubs’ maybe 10% of the attendees are fit? Every time I show up, I see pretty typical American pudge and a boat load of people going thru the motions. Now if you’re showing up at 5AM, it tends to be the hard core crowd. mid-morning to mid-afternoon, the retire/sponsored set and after work, the harried I’m checking my workout box group.
Too much sitting, too much convenient food.
October 14, 2013 at 11:28 AM #766893bearishgurlParticipant[quote=spdrun]Wait, so students get credit for giving the teacher something which their parents PAID for?(!) Wouldn’t that result in wealthier students getting higher grades — poorer students might borrow the book or want to re-sell it after they’re done. Sounds pretty discriminatory and bizarre.[/quote]
I completely agree. And this is not the first time this has happened to my kid(s). In my mind, public schools aren’t supposed to do this. They’re not supposed to base a “grade” on what the student can afford to contribute to the classroom (or afford to buy in order to get the grade). Today’s CA public school is also “divorcing itself” from extracurricular activities, even if the kids participating in it are wearing a school logo on their uniforms or holding themselves out as representing a certain school when traveling to other schools for competition (ex: cheerleading, dance, show choir, etc). The District(s) will now no longer provide all the equipment/clothing needed to participate in the activity (or provide any of it) or provide the transportation used for competitions/games or even stage sets, etc. In spite of what seems like constant fundraising, these expenses are very pricey for parents (in the thousands of dollars).
CA Districts seem to now be afraid of liability for activities conducted after school hours and demand releases from parents for all these activities or their kids won’t be able to participate in them.
My kids have all gone to public schools where the majority of the student population is relatively affluent but I seriously doubt these shenanigans would be accepted by most parents of students who attend public schools in a lower socioeconomic area.
October 14, 2013 at 11:31 AM #766894spdrunParticipantThat’s nothing new. Growing up in NJ, we had to buy soccer cleats/baseball gloves/lacrosse sticks/protective equipment. I think parents also had to sign liability releases, but it was viewed as more of a formality.
I think we also were penalized if we didn’t return school-owned books in good shape at the end of the year, but the difference was that the books weren’t our property to start with.
October 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM #766895bearishgurlParticipant[quote=no_such_reality][quote=bearishgurl]
Ask yourselves why this book is now a “reading assignment” for HS seniors in some public schools …[/quote]For the same politically correct reasons that Deasy is framing the discussion around iPads in LAUSD as being a civil rights issue that ‘these kids’ deserve to have iPads like the rich kids… π
FF is just a symptom. The primary driver is bad habits gain in an extended adolescence and delayed marriage, which is then further complicated by a sedentary lifestyle which is further propagated by C&C.
As for ‘health clubs’ maybe 10% of the attendees are fit? Every time I show up, I see pretty typical American pudge and a boat load of people going thru the motions. Now if you’re showing up at 5AM, it tends to be the hard core crowd. mid-morning to mid-afternoon, the retire/sponsored set and after work, the harried I’m checking my workout box group.
Too much sitting, too much convenient food.[/quote]
I dunno, nsr. C&C was always around, even when there were only 2-3 FF joints to choose from. HOWEVER, workers probably didn’t commute as far as they do now, on average, and, in any case, didn’t have anywhere near the housing choices they have today.
The “commute” part of C&C is ALWAYS a conscious choice. The worker chose to put themselves through that. Eating FF for lunch or serving it to your family for dinner is also a conscious choice as there are many alternatives.
As for the gym, I see a LOT of fit people there (I think to think of myself as included in that group :)) but I have to admit that the majority of the regulars I see there (fit to extremely fit) are mostly boomers with a smattering of seniors. These are the people with more time to spend there getting in shape. The majority of the weightlifting crowd appear to be male HS and college students.
As for the “hard-core” 5 am crowd, I wouldn’t know because I don’t go there at that time :=0
I’ve observed that the 7 am crowd is composed of mostly seniors and some of them are in awesome shape. But my gym has been around for 23 years and many of its members have been going there that long.
October 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM #766898bearishgurlParticipantscaredy, what are you growing in your “orchard?” Is there anything you are harvesting now??
October 14, 2013 at 11:53 AM #766899allParticipant[quote=spdrun]Wait, so students get credit for giving the teacher something which their parents PAID for?(!) Wouldn’t that result in wealthier students getting higher grades — poorer students might borrow the book or want to re-sell it after they’re done. Sounds pretty discriminatory and bizarre.[/quote]
As bizarre as a 3rd grader coming home with ‘what does my teacher like to receive for her birthday’ writeup?
October 14, 2013 at 11:58 AM #766900spdrunParticipantA lump of coal and a dirty stocking? Oh wait, wrong occasion π
October 14, 2013 at 12:38 PM #766901bearishgurlParticipant[quote=all][quote=spdrun]Wait, so students get credit for giving the teacher something which their parents PAID for?(!) Wouldn’t that result in wealthier students getting higher grades — poorer students might borrow the book or want to re-sell it after they’re done. Sounds pretty discriminatory and bizarre.[/quote]
As bizarre as a 3rd grader coming home with ‘what does my teacher like to receive for her birthday’ writeup?[/quote]
I believe you. I don’t care anymore. We’ve already paid for the yearbook, sr pics, cap and gown, homecoming, 2 SAT tests, SAT test prep and thousands more for “extracurricular activities” this year. There is still prom and likely a few other things left. Eventually, my kid will move a tassel from one side of their head to the other and then will be gone.
The public schools in CA can do whatever they want, as far as I’m concerned.
I’m giving myself essentially the same advice I gave Pigg ER when he stated here that he pre-paid his MR but was disgusted with how his contribution to his CFD(s) might end up being spent.
“You’ve paid your dues and are on a downhill slide now. You’re free. Let it go.” :=)
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