OT: AARPsays to go retire in daytona beach

[spdrun]

Unless they find a massive strike of oil there, northern CA will still be sleepy, quiet, and relatively cheap in 20 years. Too far from SF or Portland to become really suburbanized.

Think now much northern New England’s population has changed in 20 years, and you get the idea.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=6packscaredy]No point.

10 years from now everything will be different.

Not worth planning.

Too much yard work to do.[/quote]

I don’t think so, scaredy. At least it won’t be that much different, if any, in Humboldt County. It hasn’t changed all that much up there in 50 years.

I’m sure you know that being an “armchair traveler” isn’t the same as actually going there. Your kids will love it.

I think you should hire help with some or all of the trimming of your (orchard?) and hit the road … just this once.

It will change your perspective on things.

[UCGal]

A lot of people relocate in retirement for tax reasons.

Florida doesn’t tax retirement income (SS, pensions, RMDs, etc.)

CA does.

Lots of variability for seniors and taxes by state.

My MIL doesn’t pay state income tax – she’s over 65 so she’s exempt in her state. (Income threshold for seniors is much higher than for sub 65’s.)

Other states don’t charge property tax for seniors.

For me- I’m planning on having my home paid for and will just pay the taxes. CA is a more pleasant enviroment (for me) than Florida or some of the other retiree-friendly tax states.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=spdrun]Unless they find a massive strike of oil there, northern CA will still be sleepy, quiet, and relatively cheap in 20 years. Too far from SF or Portland to become really suburbanized.

Think now much northern New England’s population has changed in 20 years, and you get the idea.[/quote]

Absolutely, spdrun. Even the masses of boomers retiring from now to 2020 want to be close to a big city hospital and/or trauma center. As “bucolic” as it is up there, it is attractive to live in only to certain types of individuals (ex: the scaredycats and bearishgurls of the world) :=]

[SK in CV]

[quote=UCGal]
Florida doesn’t tax retirement income (SS, pensions, RMDs, etc.)

CA does.

[/quote]

Florida doesn’t have any state income tax. On any kind of income. That’s why so many pro golfers (among other high earners) live there.

CA doesn’t tax SS benefits.

[scaredyclassic]

I like the yard work.

I think what I want to be for my final stretch is a strength inspiration/trainer for old men.

Not a college prof.

[no_such_reality]

Well, we could continue to talk about Humboldt’s green gold or Scaredy could tell us a little more about this orchard.

[bearishgurl]

I put Lake County on my retirement shortlist over the summer.

http://www.lakecounty.com/AboutLC/photos/scenic.htm

I’m leaning towards between Conestoga and the bottom of the lake but finding it’s a bit of a pricey region to buy in. Still exploring other areas of the county.

I know it would be a good place for me … just about perfect!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=6packscaredy]I like the yard work.

I think what I want to be for my final stretch is a strength inspiration/trainer for old men.

Not a college prof.[/quote]

Those “hippie farmers” up there are undoubtedly in better shape than their So-Cal brethren, most of whom have likely sat in offices, cubicles and vehicles most of their lives.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=6packscaredy]I like the yard work.

I think what I want to be for my final stretch is a strength inspiration/trainer for old men.

Not a college prof.[/quote]

Those “hippie farmers” up there are undoubtedly in better shape than their So-Cal brethren, most of whom have likely sat in offices, cubicles and vehicles most of their lives.[/quote]

I don’t know, they were looking mighty pasty and doughy when I was there, pretty typical american pudge.

That said, IMHO, our entire obesity epidemic is related to two factors – cubicles and commutes.

[spdrun]

What about to food containing obesogenic compounds? (Though I’d agree that C&C is a large part of it.)

[no_such_reality]

[quote=spdrun]What about to food containing obesogenic compounds? (Though I’d agree that C&C is a large part of it.)[/quote]

The above, processed foods, ready to eat, massive increase in restaurant meals are all related to the commute/two worker households.

For as important as food is, it’s really pretty amazing how little the scientific community consensus there is on really what food does what.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=spdrun]What about to food containing obesogenic compounds? (Though I’d agree that C&C is a large part of it.)[/quote]

I think Mickey D’s and its assorted competition plays a larger part in obesity in America than C & C does.

The reason is because there is a faction of the C & C group who have regularly frequented “the gym” for all or most of their working lives. I see them regularly but don’t know what the percentage of worker-bees are who have ingrained this habit into their daily/weekly routines.

The beauty of some of those rural NorCal counties is that their leaders were/are so focused on “preservation” that they didn’t and don’t issue permits for fast food restaurants and their incipient garish storefronts and signage … which is good for residents and tourists alike 🙂

I don’t even stop at them if I’m on the open road for 12+ hrs, that is … unless I have a kid in tow with me who is whining for one. I pack road snacks from home or wherever I’m staying and always carry a small ice chest of water, fruit and veggies and deli meat/cheese.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=no_such_reality][quote=spdrun]What about to food containing obesogenic compounds? (Though I’d agree that C&C is a large part of it.)[/quote]

The above, processed foods, ready to eat, massive increase in restaurant meals are all related to the commute/two worker households.

For as important as food is, it’s really pretty amazing how little the scientific community consensus there is on really what food does what.[/quote]

nsr, when I was a FT “worker bee” (for decades) with kids at home, I NEVER ate at FF joints. I ALWAYS brown-bagged my lunch (EVERY day except for holiday potlucks). Occasionally, I went to happy hour dtn after work (maybe 4-6 times per yr). My oldest got a happy meal from their dad on Thursday nights for a few years because I had two jobs back then.

I stopped at the commissary one night per week after work and usually arrived home by 6:30 pm with the groceries.

The only time we ate out was when we were on the road … almost NEVER while at home.

I think its BS that American worker-parents feel they have to feed their kids fast food … or eat out regularly … especially two-parent families where both work.

[The-Shoveler]

From my experience, the married Office Cube workers eat mostly home prepared food and are not really too fat for the most part (The single ones not so much).
I think Construction workers and those who are not working in offices etc… actually end up getting fatter from FF.

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