OT: 40% of unintended acceleration claims are Toyotas

[GH]

I experienced this problem in a 2002 Camry. I was driving on the 8 up the grade back to San Diego and had the cruise control set at 70 – At some point, the car surged forward quickly getting up to over 80. I was able to correct this by dropping the car out of cruise control and applying the brake, but I know there was no floor mat involved. I would say this was a software or hardware glitch.

[Coronita]

[quote=jimmyle]I am driving a Prius but I don’t believe the floor mat is the problem like Toyota have said. There is a lot of gas pedal clearance in the Prius. The main problem is in the electronic throttle. Now Toyota will update the software so that once you apply pressure to the brake, the gas throttle will shut off. Before, you could practically stand on the brake pedal and your car could still run because the gas throttle stuck in the open position (faulty electronic/software?). Obviously fixing the software with the override fix will help but it is not the full solution. The problem is that if you are close to another car and your car suddenly plunge forward you don’t have time to apply the brake to kill the throtlle. But this partial software solution will prevent life lost like what happened to the policeman and his family.
I think fixing the throttle and the electronics is too costly so they try to avoid it.[/quote]

Jimmle, what folks have been saying which makes sense is that if a car is at WOT, power assisted brakes, which draws vacuum from engine, will be rendered useless. This probably would be an issue with any car…It’s a little surprising that some car manufacturers have not implemented a throttle cutoff for a DBW car when the brakes are applied (mine does because it had the previous stigma of unintended acceleration that 60 minutes fabricated :))

The other solution would be just to buy a car with a stick 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote=jimmyle]I am driving a Prius but I don’t believe the floor mat is the problem like Toyota have said. There is a lot of gas pedal clearance in the Prius. The main problem is in the electronic throttle. Now Toyota will update the software so that once you apply pressure to the brake, the gas throttle will shut off. Before, you could practically stand on the brake pedal and your car could still run because the gas throttle stuck in the open position (faulty electronic/software?). Obviously fixing the software with the override fix will help but it is not the full solution. The problem is that if you are close to another car and your car suddenly plunge forward you don’t have time to apply the brake to kill the throtlle. But this partial software solution will prevent life lost like what happened to the policeman and his family.
I think fixing the throttle and the electronics is too costly so they try to avoid it.[/quote]

Jimmle, what folks have been saying which makes sense is that if a car is at WOT, power assisted brakes, which draws vacuum from engine, will be rendered useless. This probably would be an issue with any car…It’s a little surprising that some car manufacturers have not implemented a throttle cutoff for a DBW car when the brakes are applied (mine does because it had the previous stigma of unintended acceleration that 60 minutes fabricated :))

The other solution would be just to buy a car with a stick 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote=jimmyle]I am driving a Prius but I don’t believe the floor mat is the problem like Toyota have said. There is a lot of gas pedal clearance in the Prius. The main problem is in the electronic throttle. Now Toyota will update the software so that once you apply pressure to the brake, the gas throttle will shut off. Before, you could practically stand on the brake pedal and your car could still run because the gas throttle stuck in the open position (faulty electronic/software?). Obviously fixing the software with the override fix will help but it is not the full solution. The problem is that if you are close to another car and your car suddenly plunge forward you don’t have time to apply the brake to kill the throtlle. But this partial software solution will prevent life lost like what happened to the policeman and his family.
I think fixing the throttle and the electronics is too costly so they try to avoid it.[/quote]

Jimmle, what folks have been saying which makes sense is that if a car is at WOT, power assisted brakes, which draws vacuum from engine, will be rendered useless. This probably would be an issue with any car…It’s a little surprising that some car manufacturers have not implemented a throttle cutoff for a DBW car when the brakes are applied (mine does because it had the previous stigma of unintended acceleration that 60 minutes fabricated :))

The other solution would be just to buy a car with a stick 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote=jimmyle]I am driving a Prius but I don’t believe the floor mat is the problem like Toyota have said. There is a lot of gas pedal clearance in the Prius. The main problem is in the electronic throttle. Now Toyota will update the software so that once you apply pressure to the brake, the gas throttle will shut off. Before, you could practically stand on the brake pedal and your car could still run because the gas throttle stuck in the open position (faulty electronic/software?). Obviously fixing the software with the override fix will help but it is not the full solution. The problem is that if you are close to another car and your car suddenly plunge forward you don’t have time to apply the brake to kill the throtlle. But this partial software solution will prevent life lost like what happened to the policeman and his family.
I think fixing the throttle and the electronics is too costly so they try to avoid it.[/quote]

Jimmle, what folks have been saying which makes sense is that if a car is at WOT, power assisted brakes, which draws vacuum from engine, will be rendered useless. This probably would be an issue with any car…It’s a little surprising that some car manufacturers have not implemented a throttle cutoff for a DBW car when the brakes are applied (mine does because it had the previous stigma of unintended acceleration that 60 minutes fabricated :))

The other solution would be just to buy a car with a stick 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote=jimmyle]I am driving a Prius but I don’t believe the floor mat is the problem like Toyota have said. There is a lot of gas pedal clearance in the Prius. The main problem is in the electronic throttle. Now Toyota will update the software so that once you apply pressure to the brake, the gas throttle will shut off. Before, you could practically stand on the brake pedal and your car could still run because the gas throttle stuck in the open position (faulty electronic/software?). Obviously fixing the software with the override fix will help but it is not the full solution. The problem is that if you are close to another car and your car suddenly plunge forward you don’t have time to apply the brake to kill the throtlle. But this partial software solution will prevent life lost like what happened to the policeman and his family.
I think fixing the throttle and the electronics is too costly so they try to avoid it.[/quote]

Jimmle, what folks have been saying which makes sense is that if a car is at WOT, power assisted brakes, which draws vacuum from engine, will be rendered useless. This probably would be an issue with any car…It’s a little surprising that some car manufacturers have not implemented a throttle cutoff for a DBW car when the brakes are applied (mine does because it had the previous stigma of unintended acceleration that 60 minutes fabricated :))

The other solution would be just to buy a car with a stick 🙂

[svelte]

Toyota has known about this, and other problems, for a long time. From the December 23rd LA Times…

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-toyota-secrecy23-2009dec23,0,557792,full.story

During a routine test on its Sienna minivan in April 2003, Toyota Motor Corp. engineers discovered that a plastic panel could come loose and cause the gas pedal to stick, potentially making the vehicle accelerate out of control.

The automaker redesigned the part and by that June every 2004 model year Sienna off the assembly line came with the new panel. Toyota did not notify tens of thousands of people who had already bought vans with the old panel, however.

It wasn’t until U.S. safety officials opened an investigation last year that Toyota acknowledged in a letter to regulators that the part could come loose and “lead to unwanted or sudden acceleration.”

In January, nearly six years after discovering the potential hazard, the automaker recalled 26,501 vans made with the old panel.

In a statement to The Times, Toyota said that there was no defect in the Sienna and that “a safety recall was not deemed necessary” when it discovered the problem in 2003. The company called the replacement part “an additional safety measure.”

A peerless reputation for quality and safety has helped Toyota become the world’s largest automaker. But even as its sales have soared, the company has delayed recalls, kept a tight lid on disclosure of potential problems and attempted to blame human error in cases where owners claimed vehicle defects.

The automaker’s handling of safety issues has come under scrutiny in recent months because of incidents of sudden acceleration in Toyota and Lexus vehicles, which The Times has reported were involved in accidents causing 19 fatalities since 2001, more deaths from that problem than all other automakers combined.

After Toyota this fall announced its biggest recall to address the sudden-acceleration problem, it insisted publicly that no defect existed. That drew a rare public rebuke from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which chastised the automaker for making “inaccurate and misleading statements.”

In the wake of Toyota’s announcement of the massive recall, The Times examined some of the ways the automaker has dealt with safety problems in recent years and found that:

* The automaker knew of a dangerous steering defect in vehicles including the 4Runner sport utility vehicle for years before issuing a recall in Japan in 2004. But it told regulators no recall was necessary in the U.S., despite having received dozens of complaints from drivers. Toyota said a subsequent investigation led it to order a U.S. recall in 2005.

* Toyota has paid cash settlements to people who say their vehicles have raced out of control, sometimes causing serious accidents, according to consumers and their attorneys. Other motorists who complained of acceleration problems with their vehicles have received buybacks under lemon laws.

* Although the sudden acceleration issue erupted publicly only in recent months, it has been festering for nearly a decade. A computerized search of NHTSA records by The Times has found Toyota issued eight previous recalls related to unintended acceleration since 2000, more than any other automaker.

* A former Toyota lawyer who handled safety litigation has sued the automaker, accusing it of engaging in a “calculated conspiracy to prevent the disclosure of damaging evidence” as part of a scheme to “prevent evidence of its vehicles’ structural shortcomings from becoming known” to plaintiffs lawyers, courts, NHTSA and the public.

As a result, plaintiffs attorneys are considering reopening dozens of product-liability suits against the automaker.

Toyota has called the allegations of the attorney, Dimitrios Biller, “both misleading and inaccurate” and noted that he is also suing another former employer. The company said it had “acted appropriately in product liability cases and in all reporting to federal safety regulators.”

In a written statement to The Times, Toyota said that it strove to keep government officials and consumers informed about potential safety problems with its vehicles, which it says are tested to meet or exceed federal standards.

“Toyota has absolutely not minimized public awareness of any defect or issue with respect to its vehicles,” the company said.

Currently, Toyota is a defendant in at least 10 lawsuits alleging unintended acceleration that caused five fatalities and four injuries. Two of those suits are seeking class-action status.

But few, if any, sudden-acceleration cases ever make it to trial, according to attorneys who handle such cases.

After a 2007 crash of a Camry that accelerated out of control for 20 miles before killing the driver of another car in San Jose, Toyota was sued by members of the victim’s family. Their attorney, Louis Franecke, said the automaker “didn’t want to go to trial,” and paid them a seven-figure sum in exchange for dropping the case and signing a non-disclosure form.

In an interview, Guadalupe Gomez, the driver of the runaway Camry, said he also signed a confidentiality agreement and received a settlement from Toyota. He was initially arrested on suspicion of manslaughter for causing the crash, but charges were never filed.

By settling, Toyota has managed to keep potentially damaging information out of the public eye, said Raymond Paul Johnson, a Los Angeles attorney who said he had settled four sudden-acceleration cases with the automaker.

“It’s just a matter of risk control for them,” Johnson said.

Toyota said that although it does not comment on individual cases, it “has resolved and will continue to resolve matters with litigants through confidential settlement when it is in both parties’ interests to do so.”

The majority of unintended acceleration incidents don’t end up in accidents. But even after minor incidents, some consumers have obtained deals under which their cars were repurchased on favorable terms.

Tim Marks, a small businessman in Camden, Ark., parked his daughter’s 2006 Lexus IS 250 in front of the dealership last year and said his family would never drive it again after experiencing four sudden-acceleration events.

“They told my daughter she was texting while driving and wasn’t paying attention,” Marks recalled. “She is a 95-pound, little itty-bitty thing, but she was fixing to twist off on that man.”

The vehicle was bought back and the title branded as a lemon, according to vehicle registration records. It was later registered in Florida, suggesting that the dealer resold it.

Much the same thing happened to Joan Marschall, a Visalia resident whose 2003 Camry accelerated on its own three times before she complained.

“I took it to the dealer and said I wouldn’t drive it again,” Marschall recalled. “I said I don’t care if you tell me the computer says nothing happened. I know it did.”

Marschall received a lemon buyback too. Registration records show the car was transferred to a new owner in Southern California.

Toyota said it had no policy to repurchase vehicles from customers complaining about sudden acceleration, though its dealers may act on their own to “preserve goodwill.”

Some motorists who have confronted safety issues said the automaker has hidden information from them.

In January, Jeffrey Pepski, a financial consultant in suburban Minneapolis, took his 2007 Lexus ES 350 to the dealer after it accelerated out of control on a Twin Cities freeway, reaching 80 miles per hour.

Toyota sent an expert to examine the car Feb. 3 and download electronic data stored on the vehicle’s computers. When Pepski asked for a copy of the data, he was refused.

“They said it was proprietary,” Pepski recalled.

He filed a defect petition with NHTSA, and the dealer allowed Pepski to trade in the sedan for a sport utility vehicle. The Lexus ES was not branded a lemon and was resold in Minnesota, records show.

How Toyota handles requests like Pepski’s has frustrated investigators and vehicle owners who want to get information contained on computers in their vehicles.

Nearly all new cars today contain an event data recorder, often called a black box, that can record several seconds of key information when accidents occur or in other circumstances.

According to Toyota, its black boxes can capture vehicle speed, engine speed, brake pedal application, accelerator pedal position and seat belt usage, among other things. That data, experts say, could be crucial to investigating causes of sudden acceleration.

Unlike manufacturers such as General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co., Toyota’s data recorders are extremely difficult for non-Toyota personnel to read, said W.R. “Rusty” Haight, a black-box expert who owns a San Diego collision investigation company.

Toyota says it has only one device in the U.S. that can read the data. An operating manual for the device, a copy of which was reviewed by The Times, indicates that it takes two passwords to operate.

On its website, Toyota says that it “will not honor EDR readout requests from private individuals or their attorneys,” because its device is a prototype.

Prototype devices? In cars sold to the public???

Now that’s a car company with quality you can trust.

[svelte]

Toyota has known about this, and other problems, for a long time. From the December 23rd LA Times…

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-toyota-secrecy23-2009dec23,0,557792,full.story

During a routine test on its Sienna minivan in April 2003, Toyota Motor Corp. engineers discovered that a plastic panel could come loose and cause the gas pedal to stick, potentially making the vehicle accelerate out of control.

The automaker redesigned the part and by that June every 2004 model year Sienna off the assembly line came with the new panel. Toyota did not notify tens of thousands of people who had already bought vans with the old panel, however.

It wasn’t until U.S. safety officials opened an investigation last year that Toyota acknowledged in a letter to regulators that the part could come loose and “lead to unwanted or sudden acceleration.”

In January, nearly six years after discovering the potential hazard, the automaker recalled 26,501 vans made with the old panel.

In a statement to The Times, Toyota said that there was no defect in the Sienna and that “a safety recall was not deemed necessary” when it discovered the problem in 2003. The company called the replacement part “an additional safety measure.”

A peerless reputation for quality and safety has helped Toyota become the world’s largest automaker. But even as its sales have soared, the company has delayed recalls, kept a tight lid on disclosure of potential problems and attempted to blame human error in cases where owners claimed vehicle defects.

The automaker’s handling of safety issues has come under scrutiny in recent months because of incidents of sudden acceleration in Toyota and Lexus vehicles, which The Times has reported were involved in accidents causing 19 fatalities since 2001, more deaths from that problem than all other automakers combined.

After Toyota this fall announced its biggest recall to address the sudden-acceleration problem, it insisted publicly that no defect existed. That drew a rare public rebuke from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which chastised the automaker for making “inaccurate and misleading statements.”

In the wake of Toyota’s announcement of the massive recall, The Times examined some of the ways the automaker has dealt with safety problems in recent years and found that:

* The automaker knew of a dangerous steering defect in vehicles including the 4Runner sport utility vehicle for years before issuing a recall in Japan in 2004. But it told regulators no recall was necessary in the U.S., despite having received dozens of complaints from drivers. Toyota said a subsequent investigation led it to order a U.S. recall in 2005.

* Toyota has paid cash settlements to people who say their vehicles have raced out of control, sometimes causing serious accidents, according to consumers and their attorneys. Other motorists who complained of acceleration problems with their vehicles have received buybacks under lemon laws.

* Although the sudden acceleration issue erupted publicly only in recent months, it has been festering for nearly a decade. A computerized search of NHTSA records by The Times has found Toyota issued eight previous recalls related to unintended acceleration since 2000, more than any other automaker.

* A former Toyota lawyer who handled safety litigation has sued the automaker, accusing it of engaging in a “calculated conspiracy to prevent the disclosure of damaging evidence” as part of a scheme to “prevent evidence of its vehicles’ structural shortcomings from becoming known” to plaintiffs lawyers, courts, NHTSA and the public.

As a result, plaintiffs attorneys are considering reopening dozens of product-liability suits against the automaker.

Toyota has called the allegations of the attorney, Dimitrios Biller, “both misleading and inaccurate” and noted that he is also suing another former employer. The company said it had “acted appropriately in product liability cases and in all reporting to federal safety regulators.”

In a written statement to The Times, Toyota said that it strove to keep government officials and consumers informed about potential safety problems with its vehicles, which it says are tested to meet or exceed federal standards.

“Toyota has absolutely not minimized public awareness of any defect or issue with respect to its vehicles,” the company said.

Currently, Toyota is a defendant in at least 10 lawsuits alleging unintended acceleration that caused five fatalities and four injuries. Two of those suits are seeking class-action status.

But few, if any, sudden-acceleration cases ever make it to trial, according to attorneys who handle such cases.

After a 2007 crash of a Camry that accelerated out of control for 20 miles before killing the driver of another car in San Jose, Toyota was sued by members of the victim’s family. Their attorney, Louis Franecke, said the automaker “didn’t want to go to trial,” and paid them a seven-figure sum in exchange for dropping the case and signing a non-disclosure form.

In an interview, Guadalupe Gomez, the driver of the runaway Camry, said he also signed a confidentiality agreement and received a settlement from Toyota. He was initially arrested on suspicion of manslaughter for causing the crash, but charges were never filed.

By settling, Toyota has managed to keep potentially damaging information out of the public eye, said Raymond Paul Johnson, a Los Angeles attorney who said he had settled four sudden-acceleration cases with the automaker.

“It’s just a matter of risk control for them,” Johnson said.

Toyota said that although it does not comment on individual cases, it “has resolved and will continue to resolve matters with litigants through confidential settlement when it is in both parties’ interests to do so.”

The majority of unintended acceleration incidents don’t end up in accidents. But even after minor incidents, some consumers have obtained deals under which their cars were repurchased on favorable terms.

Tim Marks, a small businessman in Camden, Ark., parked his daughter’s 2006 Lexus IS 250 in front of the dealership last year and said his family would never drive it again after experiencing four sudden-acceleration events.

“They told my daughter she was texting while driving and wasn’t paying attention,” Marks recalled. “She is a 95-pound, little itty-bitty thing, but she was fixing to twist off on that man.”

The vehicle was bought back and the title branded as a lemon, according to vehicle registration records. It was later registered in Florida, suggesting that the dealer resold it.

Much the same thing happened to Joan Marschall, a Visalia resident whose 2003 Camry accelerated on its own three times before she complained.

“I took it to the dealer and said I wouldn’t drive it again,” Marschall recalled. “I said I don’t care if you tell me the computer says nothing happened. I know it did.”

Marschall received a lemon buyback too. Registration records show the car was transferred to a new owner in Southern California.

Toyota said it had no policy to repurchase vehicles from customers complaining about sudden acceleration, though its dealers may act on their own to “preserve goodwill.”

Some motorists who have confronted safety issues said the automaker has hidden information from them.

In January, Jeffrey Pepski, a financial consultant in suburban Minneapolis, took his 2007 Lexus ES 350 to the dealer after it accelerated out of control on a Twin Cities freeway, reaching 80 miles per hour.

Toyota sent an expert to examine the car Feb. 3 and download electronic data stored on the vehicle’s computers. When Pepski asked for a copy of the data, he was refused.

“They said it was proprietary,” Pepski recalled.

He filed a defect petition with NHTSA, and the dealer allowed Pepski to trade in the sedan for a sport utility vehicle. The Lexus ES was not branded a lemon and was resold in Minnesota, records show.

How Toyota handles requests like Pepski’s has frustrated investigators and vehicle owners who want to get information contained on computers in their vehicles.

Nearly all new cars today contain an event data recorder, often called a black box, that can record several seconds of key information when accidents occur or in other circumstances.

According to Toyota, its black boxes can capture vehicle speed, engine speed, brake pedal application, accelerator pedal position and seat belt usage, among other things. That data, experts say, could be crucial to investigating causes of sudden acceleration.

Unlike manufacturers such as General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co., Toyota’s data recorders are extremely difficult for non-Toyota personnel to read, said W.R. “Rusty” Haight, a black-box expert who owns a San Diego collision investigation company.

Toyota says it has only one device in the U.S. that can read the data. An operating manual for the device, a copy of which was reviewed by The Times, indicates that it takes two passwords to operate.

On its website, Toyota says that it “will not honor EDR readout requests from private individuals or their attorneys,” because its device is a prototype.

Prototype devices? In cars sold to the public???

Now that’s a car company with quality you can trust.

[svelte]

Toyota has known about this, and other problems, for a long time. From the December 23rd LA Times…

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-toyota-secrecy23-2009dec23,0,557792,full.story

During a routine test on its Sienna minivan in April 2003, Toyota Motor Corp. engineers discovered that a plastic panel could come loose and cause the gas pedal to stick, potentially making the vehicle accelerate out of control.

The automaker redesigned the part and by that June every 2004 model year Sienna off the assembly line came with the new panel. Toyota did not notify tens of thousands of people who had already bought vans with the old panel, however.

It wasn’t until U.S. safety officials opened an investigation last year that Toyota acknowledged in a letter to regulators that the part could come loose and “lead to unwanted or sudden acceleration.”

In January, nearly six years after discovering the potential hazard, the automaker recalled 26,501 vans made with the old panel.

In a statement to The Times, Toyota said that there was no defect in the Sienna and that “a safety recall was not deemed necessary” when it discovered the problem in 2003. The company called the replacement part “an additional safety measure.”

A peerless reputation for quality and safety has helped Toyota become the world’s largest automaker. But even as its sales have soared, the company has delayed recalls, kept a tight lid on disclosure of potential problems and attempted to blame human error in cases where owners claimed vehicle defects.

The automaker’s handling of safety issues has come under scrutiny in recent months because of incidents of sudden acceleration in Toyota and Lexus vehicles, which The Times has reported were involved in accidents causing 19 fatalities since 2001, more deaths from that problem than all other automakers combined.

After Toyota this fall announced its biggest recall to address the sudden-acceleration problem, it insisted publicly that no defect existed. That drew a rare public rebuke from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which chastised the automaker for making “inaccurate and misleading statements.”

In the wake of Toyota’s announcement of the massive recall, The Times examined some of the ways the automaker has dealt with safety problems in recent years and found that:

* The automaker knew of a dangerous steering defect in vehicles including the 4Runner sport utility vehicle for years before issuing a recall in Japan in 2004. But it told regulators no recall was necessary in the U.S., despite having received dozens of complaints from drivers. Toyota said a subsequent investigation led it to order a U.S. recall in 2005.

* Toyota has paid cash settlements to people who say their vehicles have raced out of control, sometimes causing serious accidents, according to consumers and their attorneys. Other motorists who complained of acceleration problems with their vehicles have received buybacks under lemon laws.

* Although the sudden acceleration issue erupted publicly only in recent months, it has been festering for nearly a decade. A computerized search of NHTSA records by The Times has found Toyota issued eight previous recalls related to unintended acceleration since 2000, more than any other automaker.

* A former Toyota lawyer who handled safety litigation has sued the automaker, accusing it of engaging in a “calculated conspiracy to prevent the disclosure of damaging evidence” as part of a scheme to “prevent evidence of its vehicles’ structural shortcomings from becoming known” to plaintiffs lawyers, courts, NHTSA and the public.

As a result, plaintiffs attorneys are considering reopening dozens of product-liability suits against the automaker.

Toyota has called the allegations of the attorney, Dimitrios Biller, “both misleading and inaccurate” and noted that he is also suing another former employer. The company said it had “acted appropriately in product liability cases and in all reporting to federal safety regulators.”

In a written statement to The Times, Toyota said that it strove to keep government officials and consumers informed about potential safety problems with its vehicles, which it says are tested to meet or exceed federal standards.

“Toyota has absolutely not minimized public awareness of any defect or issue with respect to its vehicles,” the company said.

Currently, Toyota is a defendant in at least 10 lawsuits alleging unintended acceleration that caused five fatalities and four injuries. Two of those suits are seeking class-action status.

But few, if any, sudden-acceleration cases ever make it to trial, according to attorneys who handle such cases.

After a 2007 crash of a Camry that accelerated out of control for 20 miles before killing the driver of another car in San Jose, Toyota was sued by members of the victim’s family. Their attorney, Louis Franecke, said the automaker “didn’t want to go to trial,” and paid them a seven-figure sum in exchange for dropping the case and signing a non-disclosure form.

In an interview, Guadalupe Gomez, the driver of the runaway Camry, said he also signed a confidentiality agreement and received a settlement from Toyota. He was initially arrested on suspicion of manslaughter for causing the crash, but charges were never filed.

By settling, Toyota has managed to keep potentially damaging information out of the public eye, said Raymond Paul Johnson, a Los Angeles attorney who said he had settled four sudden-acceleration cases with the automaker.

“It’s just a matter of risk control for them,” Johnson said.

Toyota said that although it does not comment on individual cases, it “has resolved and will continue to resolve matters with litigants through confidential settlement when it is in both parties’ interests to do so.”

The majority of unintended acceleration incidents don’t end up in accidents. But even after minor incidents, some consumers have obtained deals under which their cars were repurchased on favorable terms.

Tim Marks, a small businessman in Camden, Ark., parked his daughter’s 2006 Lexus IS 250 in front of the dealership last year and said his family would never drive it again after experiencing four sudden-acceleration events.

“They told my daughter she was texting while driving and wasn’t paying attention,” Marks recalled. “She is a 95-pound, little itty-bitty thing, but she was fixing to twist off on that man.”

The vehicle was bought back and the title branded as a lemon, according to vehicle registration records. It was later registered in Florida, suggesting that the dealer resold it.

Much the same thing happened to Joan Marschall, a Visalia resident whose 2003 Camry accelerated on its own three times before she complained.

“I took it to the dealer and said I wouldn’t drive it again,” Marschall recalled. “I said I don’t care if you tell me the computer says nothing happened. I know it did.”

Marschall received a lemon buyback too. Registration records show the car was transferred to a new owner in Southern California.

Toyota said it had no policy to repurchase vehicles from customers complaining about sudden acceleration, though its dealers may act on their own to “preserve goodwill.”

Some motorists who have confronted safety issues said the automaker has hidden information from them.

In January, Jeffrey Pepski, a financial consultant in suburban Minneapolis, took his 2007 Lexus ES 350 to the dealer after it accelerated out of control on a Twin Cities freeway, reaching 80 miles per hour.

Toyota sent an expert to examine the car Feb. 3 and download electronic data stored on the vehicle’s computers. When Pepski asked for a copy of the data, he was refused.

“They said it was proprietary,” Pepski recalled.

He filed a defect petition with NHTSA, and the dealer allowed Pepski to trade in the sedan for a sport utility vehicle. The Lexus ES was not branded a lemon and was resold in Minnesota, records show.

How Toyota handles requests like Pepski’s has frustrated investigators and vehicle owners who want to get information contained on computers in their vehicles.

Nearly all new cars today contain an event data recorder, often called a black box, that can record several seconds of key information when accidents occur or in other circumstances.

According to Toyota, its black boxes can capture vehicle speed, engine speed, brake pedal application, accelerator pedal position and seat belt usage, among other things. That data, experts say, could be crucial to investigating causes of sudden acceleration.

Unlike manufacturers such as General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co., Toyota’s data recorders are extremely difficult for non-Toyota personnel to read, said W.R. “Rusty” Haight, a black-box expert who owns a San Diego collision investigation company.

Toyota says it has only one device in the U.S. that can read the data. An operating manual for the device, a copy of which was reviewed by The Times, indicates that it takes two passwords to operate.

On its website, Toyota says that it “will not honor EDR readout requests from private individuals or their attorneys,” because its device is a prototype.

Prototype devices? In cars sold to the public???

Now that’s a car company with quality you can trust.

[svelte]

Toyota has known about this, and other problems, for a long time. From the December 23rd LA Times…

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-toyota-secrecy23-2009dec23,0,557792,full.story

During a routine test on its Sienna minivan in April 2003, Toyota Motor Corp. engineers discovered that a plastic panel could come loose and cause the gas pedal to stick, potentially making the vehicle accelerate out of control.

The automaker redesigned the part and by that June every 2004 model year Sienna off the assembly line came with the new panel. Toyota did not notify tens of thousands of people who had already bought vans with the old panel, however.

It wasn’t until U.S. safety officials opened an investigation last year that Toyota acknowledged in a letter to regulators that the part could come loose and “lead to unwanted or sudden acceleration.”

In January, nearly six years after discovering the potential hazard, the automaker recalled 26,501 vans made with the old panel.

In a statement to The Times, Toyota said that there was no defect in the Sienna and that “a safety recall was not deemed necessary” when it discovered the problem in 2003. The company called the replacement part “an additional safety measure.”

A peerless reputation for quality and safety has helped Toyota become the world’s largest automaker. But even as its sales have soared, the company has delayed recalls, kept a tight lid on disclosure of potential problems and attempted to blame human error in cases where owners claimed vehicle defects.

The automaker’s handling of safety issues has come under scrutiny in recent months because of incidents of sudden acceleration in Toyota and Lexus vehicles, which The Times has reported were involved in accidents causing 19 fatalities since 2001, more deaths from that problem than all other automakers combined.

After Toyota this fall announced its biggest recall to address the sudden-acceleration problem, it insisted publicly that no defect existed. That drew a rare public rebuke from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which chastised the automaker for making “inaccurate and misleading statements.”

In the wake of Toyota’s announcement of the massive recall, The Times examined some of the ways the automaker has dealt with safety problems in recent years and found that:

* The automaker knew of a dangerous steering defect in vehicles including the 4Runner sport utility vehicle for years before issuing a recall in Japan in 2004. But it told regulators no recall was necessary in the U.S., despite having received dozens of complaints from drivers. Toyota said a subsequent investigation led it to order a U.S. recall in 2005.

* Toyota has paid cash settlements to people who say their vehicles have raced out of control, sometimes causing serious accidents, according to consumers and their attorneys. Other motorists who complained of acceleration problems with their vehicles have received buybacks under lemon laws.

* Although the sudden acceleration issue erupted publicly only in recent months, it has been festering for nearly a decade. A computerized search of NHTSA records by The Times has found Toyota issued eight previous recalls related to unintended acceleration since 2000, more than any other automaker.

* A former Toyota lawyer who handled safety litigation has sued the automaker, accusing it of engaging in a “calculated conspiracy to prevent the disclosure of damaging evidence” as part of a scheme to “prevent evidence of its vehicles’ structural shortcomings from becoming known” to plaintiffs lawyers, courts, NHTSA and the public.

As a result, plaintiffs attorneys are considering reopening dozens of product-liability suits against the automaker.

Toyota has called the allegations of the attorney, Dimitrios Biller, “both misleading and inaccurate” and noted that he is also suing another former employer. The company said it had “acted appropriately in product liability cases and in all reporting to federal safety regulators.”

In a written statement to The Times, Toyota said that it strove to keep government officials and consumers informed about potential safety problems with its vehicles, which it says are tested to meet or exceed federal standards.

“Toyota has absolutely not minimized public awareness of any defect or issue with respect to its vehicles,” the company said.

Currently, Toyota is a defendant in at least 10 lawsuits alleging unintended acceleration that caused five fatalities and four injuries. Two of those suits are seeking class-action status.

But few, if any, sudden-acceleration cases ever make it to trial, according to attorneys who handle such cases.

After a 2007 crash of a Camry that accelerated out of control for 20 miles before killing the driver of another car in San Jose, Toyota was sued by members of the victim’s family. Their attorney, Louis Franecke, said the automaker “didn’t want to go to trial,” and paid them a seven-figure sum in exchange for dropping the case and signing a non-disclosure form.

In an interview, Guadalupe Gomez, the driver of the runaway Camry, said he also signed a confidentiality agreement and received a settlement from Toyota. He was initially arrested on suspicion of manslaughter for causing the crash, but charges were never filed.

By settling, Toyota has managed to keep potentially damaging information out of the public eye, said Raymond Paul Johnson, a Los Angeles attorney who said he had settled four sudden-acceleration cases with the automaker.

“It’s just a matter of risk control for them,” Johnson said.

Toyota said that although it does not comment on individual cases, it “has resolved and will continue to resolve matters with litigants through confidential settlement when it is in both parties’ interests to do so.”

The majority of unintended acceleration incidents don’t end up in accidents. But even after minor incidents, some consumers have obtained deals under which their cars were repurchased on favorable terms.

Tim Marks, a small businessman in Camden, Ark., parked his daughter’s 2006 Lexus IS 250 in front of the dealership last year and said his family would never drive it again after experiencing four sudden-acceleration events.

“They told my daughter she was texting while driving and wasn’t paying attention,” Marks recalled. “She is a 95-pound, little itty-bitty thing, but she was fixing to twist off on that man.”

The vehicle was bought back and the title branded as a lemon, according to vehicle registration records. It was later registered in Florida, suggesting that the dealer resold it.

Much the same thing happened to Joan Marschall, a Visalia resident whose 2003 Camry accelerated on its own three times before she complained.

“I took it to the dealer and said I wouldn’t drive it again,” Marschall recalled. “I said I don’t care if you tell me the computer says nothing happened. I know it did.”

Marschall received a lemon buyback too. Registration records show the car was transferred to a new owner in Southern California.

Toyota said it had no policy to repurchase vehicles from customers complaining about sudden acceleration, though its dealers may act on their own to “preserve goodwill.”

Some motorists who have confronted safety issues said the automaker has hidden information from them.

In January, Jeffrey Pepski, a financial consultant in suburban Minneapolis, took his 2007 Lexus ES 350 to the dealer after it accelerated out of control on a Twin Cities freeway, reaching 80 miles per hour.

Toyota sent an expert to examine the car Feb. 3 and download electronic data stored on the vehicle’s computers. When Pepski asked for a copy of the data, he was refused.

“They said it was proprietary,” Pepski recalled.

He filed a defect petition with NHTSA, and the dealer allowed Pepski to trade in the sedan for a sport utility vehicle. The Lexus ES was not branded a lemon and was resold in Minnesota, records show.

How Toyota handles requests like Pepski’s has frustrated investigators and vehicle owners who want to get information contained on computers in their vehicles.

Nearly all new cars today contain an event data recorder, often called a black box, that can record several seconds of key information when accidents occur or in other circumstances.

According to Toyota, its black boxes can capture vehicle speed, engine speed, brake pedal application, accelerator pedal position and seat belt usage, among other things. That data, experts say, could be crucial to investigating causes of sudden acceleration.

Unlike manufacturers such as General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co., Toyota’s data recorders are extremely difficult for non-Toyota personnel to read, said W.R. “Rusty” Haight, a black-box expert who owns a San Diego collision investigation company.

Toyota says it has only one device in the U.S. that can read the data. An operating manual for the device, a copy of which was reviewed by The Times, indicates that it takes two passwords to operate.

On its website, Toyota says that it “will not honor EDR readout requests from private individuals or their attorneys,” because its device is a prototype.

Prototype devices? In cars sold to the public???

Now that’s a car company with quality you can trust.

[svelte]

Toyota has known about this, and other problems, for a long time. From the December 23rd LA Times…

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-toyota-secrecy23-2009dec23,0,557792,full.story

During a routine test on its Sienna minivan in April 2003, Toyota Motor Corp. engineers discovered that a plastic panel could come loose and cause the gas pedal to stick, potentially making the vehicle accelerate out of control.

The automaker redesigned the part and by that June every 2004 model year Sienna off the assembly line came with the new panel. Toyota did not notify tens of thousands of people who had already bought vans with the old panel, however.

It wasn’t until U.S. safety officials opened an investigation last year that Toyota acknowledged in a letter to regulators that the part could come loose and “lead to unwanted or sudden acceleration.”

In January, nearly six years after discovering the potential hazard, the automaker recalled 26,501 vans made with the old panel.

In a statement to The Times, Toyota said that there was no defect in the Sienna and that “a safety recall was not deemed necessary” when it discovered the problem in 2003. The company called the replacement part “an additional safety measure.”

A peerless reputation for quality and safety has helped Toyota become the world’s largest automaker. But even as its sales have soared, the company has delayed recalls, kept a tight lid on disclosure of potential problems and attempted to blame human error in cases where owners claimed vehicle defects.

The automaker’s handling of safety issues has come under scrutiny in recent months because of incidents of sudden acceleration in Toyota and Lexus vehicles, which The Times has reported were involved in accidents causing 19 fatalities since 2001, more deaths from that problem than all other automakers combined.

After Toyota this fall announced its biggest recall to address the sudden-acceleration problem, it insisted publicly that no defect existed. That drew a rare public rebuke from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which chastised the automaker for making “inaccurate and misleading statements.”

In the wake of Toyota’s announcement of the massive recall, The Times examined some of the ways the automaker has dealt with safety problems in recent years and found that:

* The automaker knew of a dangerous steering defect in vehicles including the 4Runner sport utility vehicle for years before issuing a recall in Japan in 2004. But it told regulators no recall was necessary in the U.S., despite having received dozens of complaints from drivers. Toyota said a subsequent investigation led it to order a U.S. recall in 2005.

* Toyota has paid cash settlements to people who say their vehicles have raced out of control, sometimes causing serious accidents, according to consumers and their attorneys. Other motorists who complained of acceleration problems with their vehicles have received buybacks under lemon laws.

* Although the sudden acceleration issue erupted publicly only in recent months, it has been festering for nearly a decade. A computerized search of NHTSA records by The Times has found Toyota issued eight previous recalls related to unintended acceleration since 2000, more than any other automaker.

* A former Toyota lawyer who handled safety litigation has sued the automaker, accusing it of engaging in a “calculated conspiracy to prevent the disclosure of damaging evidence” as part of a scheme to “prevent evidence of its vehicles’ structural shortcomings from becoming known” to plaintiffs lawyers, courts, NHTSA and the public.

As a result, plaintiffs attorneys are considering reopening dozens of product-liability suits against the automaker.

Toyota has called the allegations of the attorney, Dimitrios Biller, “both misleading and inaccurate” and noted that he is also suing another former employer. The company said it had “acted appropriately in product liability cases and in all reporting to federal safety regulators.”

In a written statement to The Times, Toyota said that it strove to keep government officials and consumers informed about potential safety problems with its vehicles, which it says are tested to meet or exceed federal standards.

“Toyota has absolutely not minimized public awareness of any defect or issue with respect to its vehicles,” the company said.

Currently, Toyota is a defendant in at least 10 lawsuits alleging unintended acceleration that caused five fatalities and four injuries. Two of those suits are seeking class-action status.

But few, if any, sudden-acceleration cases ever make it to trial, according to attorneys who handle such cases.

After a 2007 crash of a Camry that accelerated out of control for 20 miles before killing the driver of another car in San Jose, Toyota was sued by members of the victim’s family. Their attorney, Louis Franecke, said the automaker “didn’t want to go to trial,” and paid them a seven-figure sum in exchange for dropping the case and signing a non-disclosure form.

In an interview, Guadalupe Gomez, the driver of the runaway Camry, said he also signed a confidentiality agreement and received a settlement from Toyota. He was initially arrested on suspicion of manslaughter for causing the crash, but charges were never filed.

By settling, Toyota has managed to keep potentially damaging information out of the public eye, said Raymond Paul Johnson, a Los Angeles attorney who said he had settled four sudden-acceleration cases with the automaker.

“It’s just a matter of risk control for them,” Johnson said.

Toyota said that although it does not comment on individual cases, it “has resolved and will continue to resolve matters with litigants through confidential settlement when it is in both parties’ interests to do so.”

The majority of unintended acceleration incidents don’t end up in accidents. But even after minor incidents, some consumers have obtained deals under which their cars were repurchased on favorable terms.

Tim Marks, a small businessman in Camden, Ark., parked his daughter’s 2006 Lexus IS 250 in front of the dealership last year and said his family would never drive it again after experiencing four sudden-acceleration events.

“They told my daughter she was texting while driving and wasn’t paying attention,” Marks recalled. “She is a 95-pound, little itty-bitty thing, but she was fixing to twist off on that man.”

The vehicle was bought back and the title branded as a lemon, according to vehicle registration records. It was later registered in Florida, suggesting that the dealer resold it.

Much the same thing happened to Joan Marschall, a Visalia resident whose 2003 Camry accelerated on its own three times before she complained.

“I took it to the dealer and said I wouldn’t drive it again,” Marschall recalled. “I said I don’t care if you tell me the computer says nothing happened. I know it did.”

Marschall received a lemon buyback too. Registration records show the car was transferred to a new owner in Southern California.

Toyota said it had no policy to repurchase vehicles from customers complaining about sudden acceleration, though its dealers may act on their own to “preserve goodwill.”

Some motorists who have confronted safety issues said the automaker has hidden information from them.

In January, Jeffrey Pepski, a financial consultant in suburban Minneapolis, took his 2007 Lexus ES 350 to the dealer after it accelerated out of control on a Twin Cities freeway, reaching 80 miles per hour.

Toyota sent an expert to examine the car Feb. 3 and download electronic data stored on the vehicle’s computers. When Pepski asked for a copy of the data, he was refused.

“They said it was proprietary,” Pepski recalled.

He filed a defect petition with NHTSA, and the dealer allowed Pepski to trade in the sedan for a sport utility vehicle. The Lexus ES was not branded a lemon and was resold in Minnesota, records show.

How Toyota handles requests like Pepski’s has frustrated investigators and vehicle owners who want to get information contained on computers in their vehicles.

Nearly all new cars today contain an event data recorder, often called a black box, that can record several seconds of key information when accidents occur or in other circumstances.

According to Toyota, its black boxes can capture vehicle speed, engine speed, brake pedal application, accelerator pedal position and seat belt usage, among other things. That data, experts say, could be crucial to investigating causes of sudden acceleration.

Unlike manufacturers such as General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co., Toyota’s data recorders are extremely difficult for non-Toyota personnel to read, said W.R. “Rusty” Haight, a black-box expert who owns a San Diego collision investigation company.

Toyota says it has only one device in the U.S. that can read the data. An operating manual for the device, a copy of which was reviewed by The Times, indicates that it takes two passwords to operate.

On its website, Toyota says that it “will not honor EDR readout requests from private individuals or their attorneys,” because its device is a prototype.

Prototype devices? In cars sold to the public???

Now that’s a car company with quality you can trust.

[Coronita]

Meanwhile, the top design talents at GM keep jumping left and right…Add this one to the growing list

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/25/camaro-exterior-designer-sang-yup-lee-moves-to-vw-audi/

[Coronita]

Meanwhile, the top design talents at GM keep jumping left and right…Add this one to the growing list

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/25/camaro-exterior-designer-sang-yup-lee-moves-to-vw-audi/

[Coronita]

Meanwhile, the top design talents at GM keep jumping left and right…Add this one to the growing list

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/25/camaro-exterior-designer-sang-yup-lee-moves-to-vw-audi/

[Coronita]

Meanwhile, the top design talents at GM keep jumping left and right…Add this one to the growing list

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/25/camaro-exterior-designer-sang-yup-lee-moves-to-vw-audi/

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